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Old Aug 18th 2012, 9:42 am
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So I'm interested to know about your attitudes towards moving to NZ. When we moved we made a conscious decision to embrace the Kiwi lifestyle and we set a few ground rules:
  1. Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
  2. Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person
  3. Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
  4. Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were

All of the above worked well for us and we have now been here 8 years. What did/do you do and how is it working out?
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Old Aug 18th 2012, 11:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Cornishkiwi View Post
So I'm interested to know about your attitudes towards moving to NZ. When we moved we made a conscious decision to embrace the Kiwi lifestyle and we set a few ground rules:
  1. Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
  2. Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person
  3. Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
  4. Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were

All of the above worked well for us and we have now been here 8 years. What did/do you do and how is it working out?
1. Yes (but only after being here a wee while and unless they are playing england)
2. No ( i dont do things i dont want to, lifes too short)
3. No
4. No (you always compare, otherwise where is your form of reference?)

Been here 6 years and still happy as a pig in a pile of poo..
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Old Aug 18th 2012, 11:47 pm
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I have been talking to some of my fellow kiwis and they do actually like poms so long as they don't winge too much. Most kiwis know their country is not perfect, they just don't go on about it.

They are also not interested in intimate personal details of your life either. They tend to be a bit more private than the Brits. Otherwise it's all good.
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Most kiwis know their country is not perfect, they just don't go on about it.
Haven't you ever watched Campbell Live or Close Up?

They have programmes specifically designed for whinging, don't get me started on the talk radio station built around Kiwi's whinging. And the stuff they whinge about is pretty tame. Whether it's the gambling problems, the booze culture, crime etc, compared to most other places i've ever been it's no where near as bad but bless those Kiwi's they'll carry on whinging like the country is close to collapse.

It'll soon be time to start whinging about the price of tomatoes, peppers and milk which will dominate most TV stations for a full month and I'll do what I always do, scream at the TV 'THIS AIN'T F*****G NEWS WORTHY, IT'S THE PRICE OF ALE THAT NEEDS ALL THE ATTENTION'
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Originally Posted by Cornishkiwi View Post
So I'm interested to know about your attitudes towards moving to NZ. When we moved we made a conscious decision to embrace the Kiwi lifestyle and we set a few ground rules:
  1. Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
  2. Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person
  3. Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
  4. Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were

All of the above worked well for us and we have now been here 8 years. What did/do you do and how is it working out?
I think doing the opposite of these four things is a recipe for disaster.
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1. Yes (but only after being here a wee while and unless they are playing england)
2. No ( i dont do things i dont want to, lifes too short)
3. No
4. No (you always compare, otherwise where is your form of reference?)

Been here 6 years and still happy as a pig in a pile of poo..
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Except been here 3 years
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Old Aug 19th 2012, 5:06 am
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Haven't you ever watched Campbell Live or Close Up?

They have programmes specifically designed for whinging, don't get me started on the talk radio station built around Kiwi's whinging. And the stuff they whinge about is pretty tame. Whether it's the gambling problems, the booze culture, crime etc, compared to most other places i've ever been it's no where near as bad but bless those Kiwi's they'll carry on whinging like the country is close to collapse.

It'll soon be time to start whinging about the price of tomatoes, peppers and milk which will dominate most TV stations for a full month and I'll do what I always do, scream at the TV 'THIS AIN'T F*****G NEWS WORTHY, IT'S THE PRICE OF ALE THAT NEEDS ALL THE ATTENTION'
No I haven't watched those programmes and I suspect not many kiwis do. I didn't even know there was talk radio. If you will insist on seeking out these sorts of programmes don't winge about the winging.
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No I haven't watched those programmes and I suspect not many kiwis do. I didn't even know there was talk radio. If you will insist on seeking out these sorts of programmes don't winge about the winging.
They love the whinging TV programmes:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10629611
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1.Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
Will never happen, I'm still 100% English and that will never change,

2.Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person.
Apart from the good guys I work with I'm not that bothered about hanging around with Kiwi's talking about the AB's, Fords/Holdens and boring stories about hunting and fishing.

3.Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
I'll hopefully be playing for a local football side soon that's full of Brits.

4.Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were.
I'm always comparing, it's human nature, some stuff I compare is better some worse, there's nowt with comparing. Comparing is why I'm here, we compared life in the UK to life in NZ and NZ won.
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  1. Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
  2. Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person
  3. Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
  4. Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were

I never compare the UK to NZ, but I always compare Germany to NZ and I also complain about NZ because there simply are many things that are a lot better in Germany than here (in my opinion at least). I live in NZ, I pay taxes and I have the right to voice my opinion. And what is wrong with taking in the opinion and maybe even learning from the experience of other people?
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Originally Posted by Cornishkiwi View Post
So I'm interested to know about your attitudes towards moving to NZ. When we moved we made a conscious decision to embrace the Kiwi lifestyle and we set a few ground rules:
  1. Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
  2. Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person
  3. Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
  4. Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were

All of the above worked well for us and we have now been here 8 years. What did/do you do and how is it working out?
1 You are having a laugh aren't you? I support just two teams, WALES and anyone who's playing against NZ
2 Why would you spend anytime in the company of people you don't like
3 But what if your are a Yabba?
4 Come on, that's what we do the best
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Originally Posted by theghostofdustybin View Post
1. Yes (but only after being here a wee while and unless they are playing england)
2. No ( i dont do things i dont want to, lifes too short)
3. No
4. No (you always compare, otherwise where is your form of reference?)

Been here 6 years and still happy as a pig in a pile of poo..
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Originally Posted by Cornishkiwi View Post
So I'm interested to know about your attitudes towards moving to NZ. When we moved we made a conscious decision to embrace the Kiwi lifestyle and we set a few ground rules:
  1. Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
  2. Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person
  3. Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
  4. Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were

All of the above worked well for us and we have now been here 8 years. What did/do you do and how is it working out?
1. I tried that. I really tried that. I quickly discovered that I don't understand the rules and now almost passionately hate Rugby and, despite having both played and watched it, I don't understand Cricket and find it about as interesting as watching paint dry. Though watching either, is far more interesting than the conversations Kiwi's continually try to engage me in, about them.

2. Never. There are people I've met since arriving in NZ whom, faced with sticking pins in my eyes or spending time in their company, I'd go with the former every time. Though, there are plenty of people back in the UK that I feel the same about too.

3. Done. I play football for a local team and absoutely love it, the team, the people and so on. It's about the only thing that keeps me sane right now.

4. Impossible for me not to do. I don't think a day goes by when I don't. But, once we left the UK my business partner in the UK set about screwing me and the resut is that coming to NZ meant the destruction of my business, the loss of my income for the past 18mths or so, the wiping out of my semi-early retirement prospects and the arrival of crippling debts that we have no hope of resolving. We were far more financially secure in the UK and consequently our quality of life there was far superior to that which we endure now.

In a little under a month we'll have been here for 3 years. Our minds are very firmly set on when/how to return to the UK, but finances are such that we're trapped here because the cost of flying out of NZ has risen to over 4 times the amount that we paid to get here in 2009 and isn't remotely affordable for us.

Have been suffering with toothache for the past week or so. It's cheaper to have the tooth taken out than it is to have a filling, but I can't afford either.

Musn't complain though, especially not to a Kiwi. Their insular mentality means that any negative perspective of their wonderful country is seemingly taken by them as a personal insult.
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Sorry to hear what happened to your business in the UK. That sucks (and scares me as I'm only bringing 1 of my 2 business back to NZ)
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Originally Posted by Cornishkiwi View Post
So I'm interested to know about your attitudes towards moving to NZ. When we moved we made a conscious decision to embrace the Kiwi lifestyle and we set a few ground rules:
  1. Support all NZ sports teams (if you live in a country support it)
  2. Never turn down a social invitation, even if you're not that keen on the person
  3. Join a sports club to try and meet like minded people
  4. Never ever ever compare to the UK and say how much better things were

All of the above worked well for us and we have now been here 8 years. What did/do you do and how is it working out?
1. Yes I've taken up supporting the Canterbury Crusaders and definitely supported New Zealand in the rugby. However, I'll never support them when they play England and the Crusaders will never have the same support level as Sheffield Wednesday get back in England. Sunday morning 2am - 4am wake ups are back

2. The only social invitations have been at work, things may change with the new arrival coming into the world soon. Can't really comment on that

3. I've joined a golf club and play regular Sundays with 7 other golfers, as well as joined the leisure centres here. Not really used it as a way of socialising, more doing the things I love. I could have an awful week at work but then sunday 9am tee time can make things better. Same with the leisure centre, off to see if I can break 9 minutes rowing 2000m

4. I can't abide that one as I generally have a whinge on the pricing of groceries here. Oh and with the standards of driving here, I often compare to being back in London. It's natural for me to compare positives and negatives of New Zealand against the United Kingdom. I've been here 10 months now and still price convert everything from dollars to pounds. The price of sports merchandise (club shirts in particular) are an absolute rip off!!

I don't complain about it, especially to Kiwis. It seems that they have a similar mind to Australians on how wonderful their country is, yet there are things that could greatly be improved. However, it does seem the generalisation from all the Kiwis in the ante natal classes (is that the correct spelling?) that they disagree with the 14 week maternity leave.
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