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Genesis Nov 14th 2010 10:47 pm

What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
The road deaths. This weekend just gone 13 people are dead. A pregnant woman amongst them and 2 cyclists, all taken out by idiots on the wrong side of the road. It is IMO the worst, worst thing about NZ. It could touch any of us whereas all the other shit that abounds you can dodge and are most likely to find a way round it. But driving is summat we all have to do and no matter how carefully you drive there is always the chance some pissed up, speeding bastard could kill you, your partner or worse your kids. On the same day these figs were announced our roading minister flatly refuses to drop our high alco/blood levels citing that it will make no difference. That is utter, utter bollocks. A load of international research came out last month proving the opposite. He said "what if we lower it and nothing happens?" So ******* what????? At least it is worth a try. It surely ain't going to increase deaths is it???? They are simply worried about losing votes. Another reason I will never vote for any politician ever again. I think they are all out for themselves, have their own agendas and are not interested in my safety or yours. Stuff 'em. Does any one have anything they consider less cool??

hazeandsteve Nov 14th 2010 11:20 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
The state of the roads is uncool. (not gonna discuss speeding with you again mate.)
Living on crap chinese imported goods is uncool.
Thumping bass in all the boys cars is uncool.
My inability to catch trout is uncool.

Persephone Nov 14th 2010 11:42 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
The 'who you know not what you know' attitude when job hunting
Bad driving- nothing to do with alcohol intake, just plain bad driving!
The right hand turn rule - going soon but not soon enough
Earthquakes - though that has changed my mind about how superior bricks are as a building material:rofl:
Christmas in the middle of summer
The inlaws:eek:;)

Genesis Nov 14th 2010 11:52 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Persephone (Post 8981638)
The 'who you know not what you know' attitude when job hunting
Bad driving- nothing to do with alcohol intake, just plain bad driving!
The right hand turn rule - going soon but not soon enough
Earthquakes - though that has changed my mind about how superior bricks are as a building material:rofl:
Christmas in the middle of summer
The inlaws:eek:;)


HOW UNCOOL IS XMAS IN SUMMER??????????????????????? Not as bad as road deaths but its getting there. Its the one thing I don't like about our summers. The fact that xmas in the mix too!!!!! Its just wrong.

mickey_d Nov 15th 2010 12:28 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 8981559)
The road deaths. This weekend just gone 13 people are dead. A pregnant woman amongst them and 2 cyclists, all taken out by idiots on the wrong side of the road. It is IMO the worst, worst thing about NZ. It could touch any of us whereas all the other shit that abounds you can dodge and are most likely to find a way round it. But driving is summat we all have to do and no matter how carefully you drive there is always the chance some pissed up, speeding bastard could kill you, your partner or worse your kids. On the same day these figs were announced our roading minister flatly refuses to drop our high alco/blood levels citing that it will make no difference. That is utter, utter bollocks. A load of international research came out last month proving the opposite. He said "what if we lower it and nothing happens?" So ******* what????? At least it is worth a try. It surely ain't going to increase deaths is it???? They are simply worried about losing votes. Another reason I will never vote for any politician ever again. I think they are all out for themselves, have their own agendas and are not interested in my safety or yours. Stuff 'em. Does any one have anything they consider less cool??

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10687560
People walking barefoot in supermarkets:thumbdown:
Driving on beaches:thumbdown:

gocebe Nov 15th 2010 12:36 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
the high cost of healthy eating. very uncool.

Genesis Nov 15th 2010 12:43 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by mickey_d (Post 8981716)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10687560
People walking barefoot in supermarkets:thumbdown:
Driving on beaches:thumbdown:

People coming into MY house who have just come off the street barefoot..thus they tread all the crap from outside onto all my carpets and floors....ugh. Driving on beaches..how crap is that???

Woodpigeon Nov 15th 2010 12:56 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Underage drinking (and drugs around schools), now that is SERIOUSLY uncool
Gangs
Crap sentancing laws - in particular constantly coming down soft on repeat offenders

And Persephone, I am in total agreement about the uncool Christmas in summer thing

Expat Kiwi Nov 15th 2010 2:18 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Its over reliance on immigration.

Genesis Nov 15th 2010 2:53 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Woodpigeon (Post 8981754)
Underage drinking (and drugs around schools), now that is SERIOUSLY uncool
Gangs
Crap sentancing laws - in particular constantly coming down soft on repeat offenders

And Persephone, I am in total agreement about the uncool Christmas in summer thing

15 year olds driving bastard Skylines that have been chipped to mental BHPs with no insurance to boot:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Pathetic justice system.

The value of the kiwi (which strangely is having a bad hair day)..which is nice for those of us with a few quid back in the old country.

ExKiwilass Nov 15th 2010 2:57 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Lack of vision

old boy's club

corrupt police, judiciary, etc.

lack of professionalism

skin cancer rates/harsh sun

bourbon-biscuit Nov 15th 2010 4:19 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
The UV harshness is uncool.

The one-eyedness is pretty uncool (oops, can I say that?).

Miserably cold houses are uncool.

Standing at the check out with 2 bags of poor quality shopping for $45 is pretty uncool.

Average car size being driven around is SERIOUSLY uncool.

I don't mind the "it's not what you know but who you know" thing because my husband is dead fit and personable and I would say it's given us a few leg-ups we'd have struggled to get in the UK :D

I like Xmas in summer- if you're going to have all those public holidays it's pretty cool to have them when the sun is shining and I think Xmas in summer keeps a bit of perspective about Xmas, unlike in the UK where it's the highlight of several miserable months and has snowballed out of all proportion. For us Xmas arrives pretty much when the kids break up from school and we stick a tree up and go wild in the aisles buying cheese and pink fizz and PASTRAMI SALMON. Summer Xmas rocks imo, so don't you moaners go getting it changed :D

Bo-Jangles Nov 15th 2010 4:25 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
'Recidivist' drunk drivers, how uncool is that? Not once, not twice or more is enough times to be caught and still be allowed to drive.

P - need I say more?

Superior and inward looking attitude that NZ is 'Godzone' and everything in it is better than anywhere else in the world.

Genesis Nov 15th 2010 5:07 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles (Post 8982118)
'Recidivist' drunk drivers, how uncool is that? Not once, not twice or more is enough times to be caught and still be allowed to drive.

P - need I say more?

Superior and inward looking attitude that NZ is 'Godzone' and everything in it is better than anywhere else in the world.


Superior????? Some of them think they are a different species! We have a local eye co. and their advert professes that 'kiwi eyes are different, through them we can see anything we like (yeah I agree with that bit..that would be their deluded view on life in some cases!!)' the advert goes on how 'special' kiwi eyes are. For fxxx sake why are THEIR eyes any different from any other humans?? Very, very irritating attitude. Not eccentric but bloody smug IMO.

The legal system allowing a drink driver 16 cases of drink driving before imprisonment. WTF kind of message does that send out??

The fact that you can 'buy back' your licence after a disqual. in court for drink drive if your job depends on your licence (said licence can ONLY be used for work, no social) but still how weak and crass is that??? Hello, should have thought of that before you got behind the wheel pissed mate. How pathetic, toothless and pandering to these selfish, bastard drink drivers????????????

janek Nov 15th 2010 5:13 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Americanisation of NZ is uncool

bourbon-biscuit Nov 15th 2010 5:25 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Gosh, doesn't one feel better for a jolly good moan? I do hope some smug Australian resident doesn't come quip in and spoil this thread.

crap coffee Nov 15th 2010 5:33 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
NZ Housing is simply Disgusting - the most annoying thing to me.

Crap NZ furniture. they are ugly.

driving? I don't drive. hardly ever. coz I don't wanna kill/injure myself by stupid idiots.

Made in China rubbish

disorganized public hospitals - lack of specialists - its serious.

I am sure there are more. :sneaky:

Genesis Nov 15th 2010 5:34 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by bourbon-biscuit (Post 8982191)
Gosh, doesn't one feel better for a jolly good moan? I do hope some smug Australian resident doesn't come quip in and spoil this thread.

Hmm, I like to think of it as balance. I will never forget the emigree who came on here and scorned the likes of us regular posters for not 'warning' her and her family agin the evils of NZ, she eventually pissed off such was here chagrin for NZ but not before she had a good whinge about how it was our fault. Did not realise that was part of my job description but I took it on board and now will spout almost endlessly about the good, the bad and the ugly of NZ.

Genesis Nov 15th 2010 5:36 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by crap coffee (Post 8982199)
NZ Housing is simply Disgusting - the most annoying thing to me.

Crap NZ furniture. they are so ugly.

driving? I don't drive. hardly ever. coz I don't wanna kill/injure myself by stupid idiots.

Made in China rubbish

Unsophsticated Kiwi accents.

disorganized public hospitals - lack of specialists - its serious.

I am sure there are more. :sneaky:

Re the housing. You can sort some of the issues fairly simply with not much cash. Buying 2-3 2nd hand dehumidifiers will cheer up ANY home's internal atmosphere.

crap coffee Nov 15th 2010 5:48 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 8982203)
Re the housing. You can sort some of the issues fairly simply with not much cash. Buying 2-3 2nd hand dehumidifiers will cheer up ANY home's internal atmosphere.

I am talking about the _quality_ of the house. - crap painting, shabby old cheap materials etc . well I find still .. not very pleasant.

Browner_ Nov 15th 2010 6:44 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
The drivers , drunk or otherwise. It is truely frightening out there.

The cars, modified peices of junk driving by spotty teens with a serious bad attitude.

Boy racers who think its essential to make their car 20 times as loud as normal.

Drivers who think that speeding away from police is the norm, and regularly kill some innocent sod.

A police system that tolerates all the above.
Complete lack of any justice system.

The locals - serious lack of conversation, humour, comaraderie and culture. If it wasnt for the immigrants, it would be absolutely dire here.

The remoteness and complete lack of anywhere worth visiting after you have been here more than 6 months.

The "pubs'. The best ones are like the worst ones in UK, and there arent many of them at that.

The houses. Overpriced pieces of leaky and cold junk, for the most part.

The dress sense. Ha what a laugh.

Bo-Jangles Nov 15th 2010 6:49 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 8982170)
We have a local eye co. and their advert professes that 'kiwi eyes are different, through them we can see anything we like (yeah I agree with that bit..that would be their deluded view on life in some cases!!)' the advert goes on how 'special' kiwi eyes are. For fxxx sake why are THEIR eyes any different from any other humans?? Very, very irritating attitude. Not eccentric but bloody smug IMO.

I think that's OPSM as I have seen / heard that advert - what they're actually saying is nothing but a Kiwi owned company is good enough for Kiwi eyes and all these foreign upstarts like Specsavers haven't got a clue. :frown:

"This is a local shop, for local people; there's nothing for you here" :rofl:

Margaret Parkinson Nov 15th 2010 7:22 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 8981739)
People coming into MY house who have just come off the street barefoot..thus they tread all the crap from outside onto all my carpets and floors....ugh

That's what my daughter says as well. They take their shoes off but its their feet that are minging.

June

hazeandsteve Nov 15th 2010 7:52 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Browner_ (Post 8982299)
The locals - serious lack of conversation, humour, comaraderie and culture. If it wasnt for the immigrants, it would be absolutely dire here.

I'm guessing you don't have Maori or Pacific Island friends then?
I do, and they are deeper and more cultural races than the bigots I used to work with.
Not that I'm calling you either insular nor racist, but mayhaps a slightly more open mind may make life a little less tall poppy.

crap coffee Nov 15th 2010 8:48 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Browner_ (Post 8982299)
The locals - serious lack of conversation, humour, comaraderie and culture. If it wasnt for the immigrants, it would be absolutely dire here.

The remoteness and complete lack of anywhere worth visiting after you have been here more than 6 months.

The "pubs'. The best ones are like the worst ones in UK, and there arent many of them at that.

The houses. Overpriced pieces of leaky and cold junk, for the most part.

The dress sense. Ha what a laugh
.

ditto.

Thankyou.

I find locals simple/boring. they are nice people but not interesting. nothing much to share.

Stormer999 Nov 15th 2010 11:10 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Just sounds like the UK to me....:rofl:;)

janek Nov 15th 2010 5:53 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Poor old Browner and Crap Coffee;
No mirrors in there crappy little houses then!
Get down that crappy little Warehouse purchase yourself a
Made In China mirror and take a good long look. :rofl:

Bellasmum Nov 15th 2010 9:49 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by bourbon-biscuit (Post 8982191)
Gosh, doesn't one feel better for a jolly good moan? I do hope some smug Australian resident doesn't come quip in and spoil this thread.

Well I am not an Aussie as you know but geez I have just read the thread from the beginning and the sentence of the day has to be ......

Superior and inward looking attitude that NZ is 'Godzone' and everything in it is better than anywhere else in the world.

:rofl:

Hope that doesn't spoil the thread but Bo I know you tend to see most things NZ as negatives, but I see black pots in my third eye when I read that sentence.

Expat Kiwi Nov 16th 2010 1:05 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
And another one:

The Criminal Procedure (Reform and Modernisation) Bill which basically takes away the right to elect for trial by jury for any crime that is punishable with a prison sentence of less than three years. That's a direct breach of the NZ Bill of Rights :sneaky:.

It also requires the defence to disclose issues in dispute before a case comes to court and it erodes the right to silence.

Previously acquitted people can also be re-trialled if new evidence comes to light.

There are a whole load of other civil rights issues too.

The vice-president of the New Zealand Law Society said the Justice Reform Bill will set up an "efficient regime totalitarians dream about," and I agree with her.

What's it going to do other than squeeze some more people into the already full prisons, it's not addressing the reasons for crime at all.

Bellasmum Nov 16th 2010 4:04 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
The most uncool thing about NZ IMHO is that we don't have a "Bill of Personal Responsibility" ;)

hazeandsteve Nov 16th 2010 4:17 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by Expat Kiwi (Post 8984334)
.

Previously acquitted people can also be re-trialled if new evidence comes to light........

I really can't see what the problem with that is!

discobay Nov 16th 2010 5:25 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by mickey_d (Post 8981716)
People walking barefoot in supermarkets:thumbdown:

Heck they do that here too and it's not just supermarkets.

Tray Nov 16th 2010 5:32 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
I like Xmas in summer- if you're going to have all those public holidays it's pretty cool to have them when the sun is shining and I think Xmas in summer keeps a bit of perspective about Xmas, unlike in the UK where it's the highlight of several miserable months and has snowballed out of all proportion. For us Xmas arrives pretty much when the kids break up from school and we stick a tree up and go wild in the aisles buying cheese and pink fizz and PASTRAMI SALMON. Summer Xmas rocks imo, so don't you moaners go getting it changed :D[/QUOTE]

Ditto:thumbup:

BEVS Nov 16th 2010 9:34 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Sandflies :frown:

bolton1 Nov 17th 2010 9:12 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
Tourists;):p

Bo-Jangles Nov 17th 2010 9:40 am

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
It's almost 2011 and most of the biggest names on the high street don't even offer online shopping. :thumbdown:

New World, Farmers, Briscoes et al, get yer bloomin finger out!!

pom4gud Nov 17th 2010 1:57 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
....... that my mother-in-law lives there;)

cappuccino Nov 17th 2010 10:01 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
No personal tax allowance - pay tax on every dollar earned. Even kids have to pay tax on their savings accounts.

Persephone Nov 17th 2010 10:14 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 

Originally Posted by pom4gud (Post 8987216)
....... that my mother-in-law lives there;)

:rofl::rofl:I am not alone

Originally Posted by cappuccino (Post 8988196)
No personal tax allowance - pay tax on every dollar earned. Even kids have to pay tax on their savings accounts.

That's something I try not to think about, it just makes me feel sad:sneaky: At least the income tax rates have come down a little bit to make up for the increase in GST.

Persephone Nov 17th 2010 10:28 pm

Re: What is REALLY uncool about NZ
 
The ads on TV are very UNCOOL!!!
Too long and too many, plus too many breaks within a programme. It's especially worse if the programme was originally on the BBC and so was never meant to have ad breaks:curse:


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