We've Had Enough
#16
Re: We've Had Enough
That's true & may I say HappyNZ, you are looking younger by the day.
Spent a month in NZ last year ostensibly to see some friends who moved to Nelson from the UK
#18
Joined: Apr 2007
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There is one valid reason for me to come to NZ and that is the weather! Everything else is just the same, work, life, budget, etc etc same shit different location but I strongly believe that things seem better with the sun shining and being able to get out doors. That is the MAIN plus point for NZ.
#19
Joined: Nov 2006
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OK, so it's a two year-old photo.
Let's try this progressively, OK? Me last year in Tasmania. 'Say CHEEEEEESE!'
Spent a fair chunk of my tiny Kiwi salary to see the Blackcaps lose to Aussie (expected) and lose to England (oh dear, not expected...).
Sorry OP. I think I just hijacked your thread.
Let's try this progressively, OK? Me last year in Tasmania. 'Say CHEEEEEESE!'
Spent a fair chunk of my tiny Kiwi salary to see the Blackcaps lose to Aussie (expected) and lose to England (oh dear, not expected...).
Sorry OP. I think I just hijacked your thread.
#20
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I kinda fell in love with NZ when I was out here in 2006, spent some time in Aussie afterwards and I liked it, but missed here a lot.
Got home in Feb of last year, settled back into my old life and job, all much as before as if I hadn't been away! Decided I wanted to get back out here, found a job, got the visa, got here 8 months after returning from home.
I love Edinburgh to bits, but I want to be here just now, not sure how long or whatever, but just enjoying NZ for what it is and offers and a slower pace of life and just the excitement of it, still feels unreal and like I'm on me hols!
Its not all perfect, some ways it lags behing what you are used to in the UK, but the plusses are fantastic
Got home in Feb of last year, settled back into my old life and job, all much as before as if I hadn't been away! Decided I wanted to get back out here, found a job, got the visa, got here 8 months after returning from home.
I love Edinburgh to bits, but I want to be here just now, not sure how long or whatever, but just enjoying NZ for what it is and offers and a slower pace of life and just the excitement of it, still feels unreal and like I'm on me hols!
Its not all perfect, some ways it lags behing what you are used to in the UK, but the plusses are fantastic
#21
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Spent a month in NZ last year ostensibly to see some friends who moved to Nelson from the UK.
We've come back to the UK and realised what a toilet the place has become. I'm a civil servant and my wife is a nurse, we both have a very strong service ethos but we also have two kids and cannot see a future here. I am regularly abused at work and my wife is sick of not being able to nurse people to the standard she was taught. We have nothing left over at the end of the month, indeed we often spend more out than comes in, we hardly see one another and when we do, it's only to catch up with sleep!! We work our backsides off and get nowhere.
We will need to work - we will need a mortgage - who cares though when you can live in a beautiful place with lovely people and sense of community.
I envy anyone who has made this move and we can't wait to come over and leave behind the sinking ship that is the UK. 4 hour commutes - dirty hospitals -underfunded public services - crap education and uncontrolled immigration to the benefit of no-one.
I never thought I'd ever say this but I have grown to hate living here.
Anyone else had a similar 'road to Damascus' moment?
We've come back to the UK and realised what a toilet the place has become. I'm a civil servant and my wife is a nurse, we both have a very strong service ethos but we also have two kids and cannot see a future here. I am regularly abused at work and my wife is sick of not being able to nurse people to the standard she was taught. We have nothing left over at the end of the month, indeed we often spend more out than comes in, we hardly see one another and when we do, it's only to catch up with sleep!! We work our backsides off and get nowhere.
We will need to work - we will need a mortgage - who cares though when you can live in a beautiful place with lovely people and sense of community.
I envy anyone who has made this move and we can't wait to come over and leave behind the sinking ship that is the UK. 4 hour commutes - dirty hospitals -underfunded public services - crap education and uncontrolled immigration to the benefit of no-one.
I never thought I'd ever say this but I have grown to hate living here.
Anyone else had a similar 'road to Damascus' moment?
But NZ IS a beautiful , unspoilt place.
Last edited by brussels_sprout; Jan 30th 2008 at 10:48 pm.
#22
Joined: Nov 2006
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Re: We've Had Enough
Spent a month in NZ last year ostensibly to see some friends who moved to Nelson from the UK.
We've come back to the UK and realised what a toilet the place has become. I'm a civil servant and my wife is a nurse, we both have a very strong service ethos but we also have two kids and cannot see a future here. I am regularly abused at work and my wife is sick of not being able to nurse people to the standard she was taught. We have nothing left over at the end of the month, indeed we often spend more out than comes in, we hardly see one another and when we do, it's only to catch up with sleep!! We work our backsides off and get nowhere.
We will need to work - we will need a mortgage - who cares though when you can live in a beautiful place with lovely people and sense of community.
I envy anyone who has made this move and we can't wait to come over and leave behind the sinking ship that is the UK. 4 hour commutes - dirty hospitals -underfunded public services - crap education and uncontrolled immigration to the benefit of no-one.
I never thought I'd ever say this but I have grown to hate living here.
Anyone else had a similar 'road to Damascus' moment?
We've come back to the UK and realised what a toilet the place has become. I'm a civil servant and my wife is a nurse, we both have a very strong service ethos but we also have two kids and cannot see a future here. I am regularly abused at work and my wife is sick of not being able to nurse people to the standard she was taught. We have nothing left over at the end of the month, indeed we often spend more out than comes in, we hardly see one another and when we do, it's only to catch up with sleep!! We work our backsides off and get nowhere.
We will need to work - we will need a mortgage - who cares though when you can live in a beautiful place with lovely people and sense of community.
I envy anyone who has made this move and we can't wait to come over and leave behind the sinking ship that is the UK. 4 hour commutes - dirty hospitals -underfunded public services - crap education and uncontrolled immigration to the benefit of no-one.
I never thought I'd ever say this but I have grown to hate living here.
Anyone else had a similar 'road to Damascus' moment?
Do you honestly expect your work experiences to be any better in NZ?
Be careful about travelling the road to Damascus because you could be needing a good Samaritan sooner than you think.
#23
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I have just read about shootings in the small quiet town where I lived in England. Youth are becoming "feral", out of control and are getting hold of guns, even in country towns.
What has happened to England ? Why are the youth becoming like this ?
There are many reasons, but the main factor for me is that fathers have been systematically taken away from families by the state imposing of "feminised" laws, and single parent (ie mothers) families have created all these out of control kids. This started among the working classes in the 70s and 80s , but now has spread to the rest of society. Women have been encouraged by the state to abandon the traditional 2 parent family model, first by "no fault divorces" (achieved by easy domestic violence allegations) and then financially, paying them for housing , tax credits). The state first paid for all these single mothers, but when it was realised that costs were spiralling, the fathers were made to pay by the Child Support laws. Although men pay 55-70% of tax in every industrial country, the feminists have won the battle and are now using laws to beat down men. But the side effect has been a breakdown in society, and we are now just starting to pay the price for the deliberate destruction of the family.
Fathers have been telling the government this for years, but this has fallen on deaf ears AND IT WILL ALL GET WORSE
What has happened to England ? Why are the youth becoming like this ?
There are many reasons, but the main factor for me is that fathers have been systematically taken away from families by the state imposing of "feminised" laws, and single parent (ie mothers) families have created all these out of control kids. This started among the working classes in the 70s and 80s , but now has spread to the rest of society. Women have been encouraged by the state to abandon the traditional 2 parent family model, first by "no fault divorces" (achieved by easy domestic violence allegations) and then financially, paying them for housing , tax credits). The state first paid for all these single mothers, but when it was realised that costs were spiralling, the fathers were made to pay by the Child Support laws. Although men pay 55-70% of tax in every industrial country, the feminists have won the battle and are now using laws to beat down men. But the side effect has been a breakdown in society, and we are now just starting to pay the price for the deliberate destruction of the family.
Fathers have been telling the government this for years, but this has fallen on deaf ears AND IT WILL ALL GET WORSE
Last edited by brussels_sprout; Jan 31st 2008 at 12:53 am.
#24
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I have just read about shootings in the small quiet town where I lived in England. Youth are becoming "feral", out of control and are getting hold of guns, even in country towns.
What has happened to England ? Why are the youth becoming like this ?
There are many reasons, but the main factor for me is that fathers have been systematically taken away from families by the state imposing of "feminised" laws, and single parent (ie mothers) families have created all these out of control kids. This started among the working classes in the 70s and 80s , but now has spread to the rest of society. Women have been encouraged by the state to abandon the traditional 2 parent family model, first by "no fault divorces" (achieved by easy domestic violence allegations) and then financially, paying them for housing , tax credits). The state first paid for all these single mothers, but when it was realised that costs were spiralling, the fathers were made to pay by the Child Support laws. Although men pay 55-70% of tax in every industrial country, the feminists have won the battle. But the side effect has been a breakdown in society, and we are now just starting to pay the price for the deliberate destruction of the family.
What has happened to England ? Why are the youth becoming like this ?
There are many reasons, but the main factor for me is that fathers have been systematically taken away from families by the state imposing of "feminised" laws, and single parent (ie mothers) families have created all these out of control kids. This started among the working classes in the 70s and 80s , but now has spread to the rest of society. Women have been encouraged by the state to abandon the traditional 2 parent family model, first by "no fault divorces" (achieved by easy domestic violence allegations) and then financially, paying them for housing , tax credits). The state first paid for all these single mothers, but when it was realised that costs were spiralling, the fathers were made to pay by the Child Support laws. Although men pay 55-70% of tax in every industrial country, the feminists have won the battle. But the side effect has been a breakdown in society, and we are now just starting to pay the price for the deliberate destruction of the family.
So, you are blaming it all on single mums?
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/just seen the last posts - puts on helmet/
#26
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Maybe the youth are like that because they don't have strong father figures to guide them through their early lives. Nothing to do with single mums - just weak fathers.
Anyway, if your argument was sound the "feminisation" of a society would tend to make it more placcid and nurturing, rather than aggresive.
Anyway, if your argument was sound the "feminisation" of a society would tend to make it more placcid and nurturing, rather than aggresive.
#27
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I am blaming it all on the destruction of the traditional family,
Do you really think that Women would get divorced as easily if they were not given free legal aid, large percentages of family home (mostly paid for by the man) and chattels, half the man's pension, alimony, child support , yeah right ! The laws have been feminised so much that the state bends over backwards to encourage all these "entitlement princesses". But the damage that all the broken families is causing is just starting !
Do you really think that Women would get divorced as easily if they were not given free legal aid, large percentages of family home (mostly paid for by the man) and chattels, half the man's pension, alimony, child support , yeah right ! The laws have been feminised so much that the state bends over backwards to encourage all these "entitlement princesses". But the damage that all the broken families is causing is just starting !
Last edited by brussels_sprout; Jan 31st 2008 at 1:10 am.
#28
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I am blaming it all on the destruction of the traditional family,
Do you really think that Women would get divorced as easily if they were not given free legal aid, large percentages of family home (paid for by man) and chattels, half the man's pension, alimony, child support , yeah right ! The laws have been feminised so much that the state seems to bend over backwards to encourage all these "entitlement princesses". But the damage that all the broken families is causing is just starting !
Do you really think that Women would get divorced as easily if they were not given free legal aid, large percentages of family home (paid for by man) and chattels, half the man's pension, alimony, child support , yeah right ! The laws have been feminised so much that the state seems to bend over backwards to encourage all these "entitlement princesses". But the damage that all the broken families is causing is just starting !
Anyway, lets not get into this, I know your circumstances are pretty dire, and you have been treated very badly but dont tar all women with the same brush.
#30
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Still think they should bring back public flogging for the little troublemakers, shove em in the shocks and let folks throw rotten veggies at them...
Or, if you are Helen Clark, then your idea to solve this is to keep them in education til 18...great Helen, how you gonna enforce that one, is there not something like 30,000 kiwi kids truant/abesnt from school every day
Or, if you are Helen Clark, then your idea to solve this is to keep them in education til 18...great Helen, how you gonna enforce that one, is there not something like 30,000 kiwi kids truant/abesnt from school every day