Thinking about taking the plunge...
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
hi alan83
I have to say that I am suprised by some of the negative comments that appear on these forums - though i understand some people may have had bad experiences.
My wife and I decided we would try to live/move abroad in 2011 and despite initially having Australia in mind, NZ soon became more appealing due to a number of factors - no deadly snakes/spiders, easier to obtain a visa etc.
I am a building services engineer, degree qualified etc and their seemed to be a fair few jobs kicking about on seek.co.nz. After speaking to a few agents i got a little frustrated as they were keen to speak to me but never actually offered anything concrete. I found a job advertised directly by the employer and sent my CV - i had a skype interview and was offered the job in Christchurch. We weren't really thinking about Christchurch as an option, we expected to find work in Auckland. But we took the plunge and arrived in Christchurch with an open mind.
After a year in Christchurch, living for 6 months in Diamond Harbour (beautiful but a bit of a trek into the city) and then Merivale (very nice up market suburb close to Hagley Park) we LOVED it.
The rebuild has certainly opened up opportunities for tradesman but it may be difficult still to find work because of the number of tradesman trying to make the most of the rebuild situation like you. As a consultant design engineer, I have good 5-10 year forecast of work which is far and beyond anything in the UK at the moment.
We love NZ, its easy going, work to life balance is restored, nature is on your doorstep, lots of free events and family activities, skiing, surfing, biking, trekking, watersports you name it.
There are of course the downsides - property prices are a bit silly and the quality of homes arent always that great, but thats not to say quality houses arent out there - they just cost a premium. The earthquakes you get used to, most are very minor that last only a few seconds.
Hope that helps shed some positive light on your potential move, if like me you find the UK depressing (politics, weather, utility companies, etc) then NZ will be a breath of fresh air.
Steve
I have to say that I am suprised by some of the negative comments that appear on these forums - though i understand some people may have had bad experiences.
My wife and I decided we would try to live/move abroad in 2011 and despite initially having Australia in mind, NZ soon became more appealing due to a number of factors - no deadly snakes/spiders, easier to obtain a visa etc.
I am a building services engineer, degree qualified etc and their seemed to be a fair few jobs kicking about on seek.co.nz. After speaking to a few agents i got a little frustrated as they were keen to speak to me but never actually offered anything concrete. I found a job advertised directly by the employer and sent my CV - i had a skype interview and was offered the job in Christchurch. We weren't really thinking about Christchurch as an option, we expected to find work in Auckland. But we took the plunge and arrived in Christchurch with an open mind.
After a year in Christchurch, living for 6 months in Diamond Harbour (beautiful but a bit of a trek into the city) and then Merivale (very nice up market suburb close to Hagley Park) we LOVED it.
The rebuild has certainly opened up opportunities for tradesman but it may be difficult still to find work because of the number of tradesman trying to make the most of the rebuild situation like you. As a consultant design engineer, I have good 5-10 year forecast of work which is far and beyond anything in the UK at the moment.
We love NZ, its easy going, work to life balance is restored, nature is on your doorstep, lots of free events and family activities, skiing, surfing, biking, trekking, watersports you name it.
There are of course the downsides - property prices are a bit silly and the quality of homes arent always that great, but thats not to say quality houses arent out there - they just cost a premium. The earthquakes you get used to, most are very minor that last only a few seconds.
Hope that helps shed some positive light on your potential move, if like me you find the UK depressing (politics, weather, utility companies, etc) then NZ will be a breath of fresh air.
Steve
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
hi alan83
I have to say that I am suprised by some of the negative comments that appear on these forums - though i understand some people may have had bad experiences.
My wife and I decided we would try to live/move abroad in 2011 and despite initially having Australia in mind, NZ soon became more appealing due to a number of factors - no deadly snakes/spiders, easier to obtain a visa etc.
I am a building services engineer, degree qualified etc and their seemed to be a fair few jobs kicking about on seek.co.nz. After speaking to a few agents i got a little frustrated as they were keen to speak to me but never actually offered anything concrete. I found a job advertised directly by the employer and sent my CV - i had a skype interview and was offered the job in Christchurch. We weren't really thinking about Christchurch as an option, we expected to find work in Auckland. But we took the plunge and arrived in Christchurch with an open mind.
After a year in Christchurch, living for 6 months in Diamond Harbour (beautiful but a bit of a trek into the city) and then Merivale (very nice up market suburb close to Hagley Park) we LOVED it.
The rebuild has certainly opened up opportunities for tradesman but it may be difficult still to find work because of the number of tradesman trying to make the most of the rebuild situation like you. As a consultant design engineer, I have good 5-10 year forecast of work which is far and beyond anything in the UK at the moment.
We love NZ, its easy going, work to life balance is restored, nature is on your doorstep, lots of free events and family activities, skiing, surfing, biking, trekking, watersports you name it.
There are of course the downsides - property prices are a bit silly and the quality of homes arent always that great, but thats not to say quality houses arent out there - they just cost a premium. The earthquakes you get used to, most are very minor that last only a few seconds.
Hope that helps shed some positive light on your potential move, if like me you find the UK depressing (politics, weather, utility companies, etc) then NZ will be a breath of fresh air.
Steve
I have to say that I am suprised by some of the negative comments that appear on these forums - though i understand some people may have had bad experiences.
My wife and I decided we would try to live/move abroad in 2011 and despite initially having Australia in mind, NZ soon became more appealing due to a number of factors - no deadly snakes/spiders, easier to obtain a visa etc.
I am a building services engineer, degree qualified etc and their seemed to be a fair few jobs kicking about on seek.co.nz. After speaking to a few agents i got a little frustrated as they were keen to speak to me but never actually offered anything concrete. I found a job advertised directly by the employer and sent my CV - i had a skype interview and was offered the job in Christchurch. We weren't really thinking about Christchurch as an option, we expected to find work in Auckland. But we took the plunge and arrived in Christchurch with an open mind.
After a year in Christchurch, living for 6 months in Diamond Harbour (beautiful but a bit of a trek into the city) and then Merivale (very nice up market suburb close to Hagley Park) we LOVED it.
The rebuild has certainly opened up opportunities for tradesman but it may be difficult still to find work because of the number of tradesman trying to make the most of the rebuild situation like you. As a consultant design engineer, I have good 5-10 year forecast of work which is far and beyond anything in the UK at the moment.
We love NZ, its easy going, work to life balance is restored, nature is on your doorstep, lots of free events and family activities, skiing, surfing, biking, trekking, watersports you name it.
There are of course the downsides - property prices are a bit silly and the quality of homes arent always that great, but thats not to say quality houses arent out there - they just cost a premium. The earthquakes you get used to, most are very minor that last only a few seconds.
Hope that helps shed some positive light on your potential move, if like me you find the UK depressing (politics, weather, utility companies, etc) then NZ will be a breath of fresh air.
Steve
thanks for the insight, it's put of my worries to ease. I know alot of people have gone over with families and moving everything but the kitchen sink which im not quite in the same boat i'l be arriving on my own as a single guy with a job offer on the table (hopefully, interview pending).
anything away from the UK would be a bonus as im currently doing 12 hour shift's in a factory and the work life balance is no existant.
flat/house share, double room etc is what i'l be looking for while i get myself settle and adjust and then as the month's roll on i'l see what happen's.
The whole thing is still very much sureal and a little daunting at the moment but i'm determind to make it work.
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
Don't rely on Canstaff.
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
Know a few people who have dealt with them, and said they mess you around and pay peanuts.
I've just come back from Christchurch, as could not survive on the wages over there compared to the cost of living.
Staying in a shabby shared house over there with other contractors from UK, and most of them were heading back to the UK due to not high wage and high cost of living
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Canstaff are yet to deliver I believe.
Going on from that, most of the trade occupations are NOT in shortage here in New Zealand - Sparkies excepted at the moment.
The Canterbury shortage list is an aid for Canterbury employers to fill their needs as and when. It makes the paperwork easier for them.
An occupation can be removed from a shortage list and if that happens temporary work visas would not be renewed.
What any tradie needs to ensure is that they have long term job prospects to enable them to remain in NZ , if that is their aim and intention.
This is a cautionary note & not intended as a deterrent. Just make sure of the job offer contract & familiarise yourself with the visa options..
Going on from that, most of the trade occupations are NOT in shortage here in New Zealand - Sparkies excepted at the moment.
The Canterbury shortage list is an aid for Canterbury employers to fill their needs as and when. It makes the paperwork easier for them.
An occupation can be removed from a shortage list and if that happens temporary work visas would not be renewed.
What any tradie needs to ensure is that they have long term job prospects to enable them to remain in NZ , if that is their aim and intention.
This is a cautionary note & not intended as a deterrent. Just make sure of the job offer contract & familiarise yourself with the visa options..
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
Know a few people who have dealt with them, and said they mess you around and pay peanuts.
I've just come back from Christchurch, as could not survive on the wages over there compared to the cost of living.
Staying in a shabby shared house over there with other contractors from UK, and most of them were heading back to the UK due to not high wage and high cost of living
I've just come back from Christchurch, as could not survive on the wages over there compared to the cost of living.
Staying in a shabby shared house over there with other contractors from UK, and most of them were heading back to the UK due to not high wage and high cost of living
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/bus...d-union-claims
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/bus...ey-for-rebuild
I am completely not surprised that EQR have been listed! Allegedly they're paying Filipino workers a lot less than the minimum amount companies should be paying for migrant workers to come over
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
thanks for the info, I'l shall be asking plenty of question's at the interview and will weigh up the pro's and con's
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
Yes. Absolutely. Ensure you get the 'going rate' and look for a company that can offer you long term permanent employment if you are looking to stay permanently.
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
Know a few people who have dealt with them, and said they mess you around and pay peanuts.
I've just come back from Christchurch, as could not survive on the wages over there compared to the cost of living.
Staying in a shabby shared house over there with other contractors from UK, and most of them were heading back to the UK due to not high wage and high cost of living
I've just come back from Christchurch, as could not survive on the wages over there compared to the cost of living.
Staying in a shabby shared house over there with other contractors from UK, and most of them were heading back to the UK due to not high wage and high cost of living
I believe that G from Y was/is looking to Canada but came out to New Zealand with a 3 year temp work visa ( which is a bit unusual ) to work as a glazier. He was on a 3 month probation period from his posts .
He arrived 11th October but had left and was back in the UK by 4th December. Total of 7 to 8 weeks.
He had come out in advance of his partner and children.
From his posts his job may have been at $25 an hour. To me that is not an unusual rate for a tradie just arrived. There again I'm up in Nelson which has sunshine $$.
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Re: Thinking about taking the plunge...
To be clear for others looking in.
I believe that G from Y was/is looking to Canada but came out to New Zealand with a 3 year temp work visa ( which is a bit unusual ) to work as a glazier. He was on a 3 month probation period from his posts .
He arrived 11th October but had left and was back in the UK by 4th December. Total of 7 to 8 weeks.
From his posts his job may have been at $25 an hour. To me that is not an unusual rate for a tradie just arrived. There again I'm up in Nelson which has sunshine $$.
I believe that G from Y was/is looking to Canada but came out to New Zealand with a 3 year temp work visa ( which is a bit unusual ) to work as a glazier. He was on a 3 month probation period from his posts .
He arrived 11th October but had left and was back in the UK by 4th December. Total of 7 to 8 weeks.
From his posts his job may have been at $25 an hour. To me that is not an unusual rate for a tradie just arrived. There again I'm up in Nelson which has sunshine $$.
New Zealand is amazing, but if the wages are low, then it's not going to work out.
Trying to find a rental is another problem, unless you want to live in a undesirable area.
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Yes tahrs right. 3 year visa as a glazier. $25 per hr, but they take €2 per hr for holiday pay which I was not told intill I arrived.
New Zealand is amazing, but if the wages are low, then it's not going to work out.
Trying to find a rental is another problem, unless you want to live in a undesirable area.
New Zealand is amazing, but if the wages are low, then it's not going to work out.
Trying to find a rental is another problem, unless you want to live in a undesirable area.
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you make it sound like they make you live in slums and 3 quid an hour, I'm not after a 6 bedroom house with sea view and all the trimming's, not even after a house...a shared accom/flat/room etc would do me, and 25 nzd an hour is alot more than the equivalent 7.23 an hour im on now off the tool's as UK construction industry hasn't existed for going on it's 6 year.
There are some right shitty areas.
Plenty of rooms to let, but you need to be close to city to get to work unless you get a car.
If you end up going, the best bet is to get a room sorted for when you land.
Trade me have loads of rooms. $150 per week upwards.
I can still go back, but looking at the north island.
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Well I've been and seen, and have family who live there.
There are some right shitty areas.
Plenty of rooms to let, but you need to be close to city to get to work unless you get a car.
If you end up going, the best bet is to get a room sorted for when you land.
Trade me have loads of rooms. $150 per week upwards.
I can still go back, but looking at the north island.
There are some right shitty areas.
Plenty of rooms to let, but you need to be close to city to get to work unless you get a car.
If you end up going, the best bet is to get a room sorted for when you land.
Trade me have loads of rooms. $150 per week upwards.
I can still go back, but looking at the north island.
end of the day I'm a single guy with nothing to lose, stuck in a shitty factory job with no prospect's and the opportunity to go somewhere most people today can only dream of, I know I'l have to sacrifice alot of home comfort's and thing's might no be as rosey as they seem but like most on the forum keep saying have an open mind which I will be doing.