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Old Jul 7th 2016, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by KOH2 View Post
Well, we've been married for 15 years (OH is a Kiwi) but we also didn't have much evidence to prove our relationship. We have separate bank accounts, haven't holidayed together for ages, not a selfie generation, so lack of joint photographs (or any photographs in fact), but we did send in recent bank statements, mortgage document (in our joint names), council tax bills + marriage certificate, kids birth certificates & recent email exchanges between us and also some from OH's sibling's saying how much they're looking forward to having us in NZ and my residence visa just got approved today.

INZ did get back to us to provide more evidence of our relationship over the last 12 months, so hubby explained we don't have that many photos of us together (but sent in some from when the kids were younger) + topped with the recent bills/bank statements coming to the same address (they weren't necessarily in both our names) + email exchanges and that seems to have satisfied them.

Concentrate on the last 12 months & if necessary start snapping those pics of BOTH of you together and send a few emails to each other.

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Congratulations on the approval of your residence visa!! When do you move out & where to?

Thank you for sharing your experience & for the advice
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Old Jul 8th 2016, 7:53 am
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Any tips on shipping companies?
Hi,

Sounds like you've got lots of organising to keep you busy! Hopefully I can help get you started with the shipping bit..

When it comes to arranging international removals we find most people start the research process about 3-4 months before their target move date. This gives you enough time to evaluate and select a company and then work through the planning and preparation process with your chosen mover. You can start research and reach out for quotes at any time though if you prefer to be organised a bit more in advance, just make sure they explain how long their quote is valid for or for which period of time as prices can vary depending on time of year you move due to peak seasons.

My personal top tip for removal companies is to look for members of professional bodies.

The top two to look for are FIDI FAIM which is a quality certification under which holders are independently audited to make sure they meet over 200 different standards including things like training and experience of staff, responsiveness, complaints and claims, equipment and materials, documentation processes etc. The idea behind this one is that in achieving those 200 marks of quality they close the loop holes and reduce the risk of poor service or anything going wrong.

The second one is BAR Overseas with the Advance Payment Guarantee. This works in a similar way to 'ATOL protected' in the holiday industry. It protects the money you pay to the remover in the event that they go out of business during your move, for example once your shipment is on the water and means that if the worst does happen you don't end up having to pay out a second time to get your move completed. It's rare, but it has happened and so if peace of mind is important to you then that's an important one to look out for.

Please do have a look at our Vendor Forum (Overseas Removals, Shipping & Storage Advice and Information from Bournes International Moves - British Expats) I am on hand there to personally help and we have a guide that has lots of tips & several other online tools and articles that may help further whilst you're researching this topic.

Hope it helps, and good luck with everything!

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When it comes to arranging international removals we find most people start the research process about 3-4 months before their target move date. This gives you enough time to evaluate and select a company and then work through the planning and preparation process with your chosen mover. You can start research and reach out for quotes at any time though if you prefer to be organised a bit more in advance, just make sure they explain how long their quote is valid for or for which period of time as prices can vary depending on time of year you move due to peak seasons.
I wish we had a bit more time... We leave in September!!
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Originally Posted by kirstyp View Post
Hi,

Sounds like you've got lots of organising to keep you busy! Hopefully I can help get you started with the shipping bit..

My personal top tip for removal companies is to look for members of professional bodies.

The top two to look for are FIDI FAIM which is a quality certification under which holders are independently audited to make sure they meet over 200 different standards including things like training and experience of staff, responsiveness, complaints and claims, equipment and materials, documentation processes etc. The idea behind this one is that in achieving those 200 marks of quality they close the loop holes and reduce the risk of poor service or anything going wrong.

The second one is BAR Overseas with the Advance Payment Guarantee. This works in a similar way to 'ATOL protected' in the holiday industry. It protects the money you pay to the remover in the event that they go out of business during your move, for example once your shipment is on the water and means that if the worst does happen you don't end up having to pay out a second time to get your move completed. It's rare, but it has happened and so if peace of mind is important to you then that's an important one to look out for.

Please do have a look at our Vendor Forum (Overseas Removals, Shipping & Storage Advice and Information from Bournes International Moves - British Expats) I am on hand there to personally help and we have a guide that has lots of tips & several other online tools and articles that may help further whilst you're researching this topic.

Hope it helps, and good luck with everything!

Kirsty
Thank you so much Kirsty, this reply is so helpful, really appreciated.
Thank you for the link, I will have a good look!
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Congratulations on the approval of your residence visa!! When do you move out & where to?
We're booked to fly out in October & moving to OH's home town of Wanganui

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No problem. Good luck with your move.
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Old Jul 14th 2016, 10:16 am
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I wish we had a bit more time... We leave in September!!
Don't worry, that's still plenty of time.
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Noting that it all seems to be financial plus social.

I would have thought that statements from long term family friends, for instance, vouching that you had a long term stable relationship might help.

I know, of course, that you could make them up but if they came, for instance, from a Minister of your local Church, a reputable person such as a JP or similar then they should have some weight.

Or is it just that utility bills and bank statements are the modern measure of your life?
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Old Jul 17th 2016, 6:36 pm
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Noting that it all seems to be financial plus social.

I would have thought that statements from long term family friends, for instance, vouching that you had a long term stable relationship might help.

I know, of course, that you could make them up but if they came, for instance, from a Minister of your local Church, a reputable person such as a JP or similar then they should have some weight.

Or is it just that utility bills and bank statements are the modern measure of your life?
So who is going to verify the claimed qualifications of the Minister or JP or research the validation of the "friends" statement....it has to end somewhere. For this reason the immi peeps require facts.
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Old Jul 17th 2016, 7:45 pm
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as Stormer has said he needs to be fact base on a day to day, week to week. month to month basis. hence the reason that marriage certs, kids birth certs don't hold much traction, all these show is at that particular time in the pass you had a relationship with that person it does not show that that relationship is a stable long term one, hence the need for unbiased proof, like bills, social media chat, holiday booking receipts etc
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My wife had medical research papers published in her maiden name so when we married she kept it, so now we were married in separate surnames. We kept separate bank accounts and she paid all of our living bills. I could not provide immi with any joint household bills ! Luckily we could establish bank transfer amounts between our separate banks to convince immi that we were cohabiting, that together with pics of us both on the Shotover jet boat whilst investigating the country managed to fit their requisite. Certificates were useless bits of paper.
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Old Jul 23rd 2016, 9:01 am
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err nope they won't. the rules are very clear on that
nope.

married,together 10 yrs.living together 9 years 2 children. not enough proof.

I STILL had to send off a bunch of things.
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Old Jul 25th 2016, 12:27 am
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Originally Posted by thisnaturaljourney View Post
Hey!

So...
feeling a little overwhelmed but slowly getting my head around it all.
My husband has been offered a job, we have sent off our police checks and we are travelling to London tomorrow for our medicals.
We are a family of 5 (2+3 children, 8,7 & 5) After we have a few more documents from the employer & the return of our police checks, I guess we can the Visa ball rolling? My husband will be applying for an Essential Skills Work Visa, mine would be a Partner of a worker work visa & the children, dependant child student visa.. I think I've got those correct?

My first question is, can we apply for the 5 visa's at the same time? or do we have to wait until my husbands has been approved to support ours?

Also... how much evidence is needed to prove our relationship? We have been inseparable for the last 18 years but we don't communicate through social media & most household bills are in my name...

Also I'd love any info about Christchurch & Sumner in particular, if anyone is local to that area.

Any tips on shipping companies?

When should we be booking flights? As soon as visa's are approved? We are hoping to arrive this September!

Thanks in advance xxx
We are not married, no kids, together over 3 years only. Evidence they needed was to show we had lived together in a stable relationship for over 12 mths.

Our bills were in separate names, no joint account apart from the NZ one we had started to set up while we were in UK.

Letters from friends etc I was told were pointless to include.

Instead used very recent letters that were sent to us separately but at the same address - stretching back to two years.

Some photos of us on hols and the plane ticket receipts to back them up.

A timeline of our relationship.

That was it and went through in two and a bit weeks.

Sumner is lovely by the way!

Forgot to mention, we didn't have any bills in joint names, only our rental agreement was joint.

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