Freedom to Choose - Where?
Mar 26th 2008, 2:45 pm
#31
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
What could these be? In England we have aggression, anger, gun crime, violence, murder, kids stabbing kids, road rage, over-population, and too many Eatern European immigrants. On top of that we have a very small and boring land, with REALLY ATROCIOUS grey weather. Surely NZ is not this bad?? 
Your definition of hard work is my definition of heaven! Especialy since I will have two small babies to take care of (as well as my husband and older child!).
Your definition of hard work is my definition of heaven! Especialy since I will have two small babies to take care of (as well as my husband and older child!).
My sis in law lives north of Auckland and says in the 7 years shes been there the crime rate has gone up, more traffic, more crashes, more immigrants etc etc.
I think unless you can be in the "happy" position of not having to be near a populace for school and or work then you are bound to come across all those sorts of issues on a greater or lesser scale.
Good luck with the search anyway.....
Mar 26th 2008, 5:27 pm
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
What could these be? In England we have aggression, anger, gun crime, violence, murder, kids stabbing kids, road rage, over-population, and too many Eatern European immigrants. On top of that we have a very small and boring land, with REALLY ATROCIOUS grey weather. Surely NZ is not this bad??
Your definition of hard work is my definition of heaven! Especialy since I will have two small babies to take care of (as well as my husband and older child!).
Your definition of hard work is my definition of heaven! Especialy since I will have two small babies to take care of (as well as my husband and older child!).
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Mar 26th 2008, 9:45 pm
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Mar 27th 2008, 12:35 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
If I had the freedom to choose anywhere in NZ (and we did 
) I'd avoid the big cities because we came here to get away from problems that stem from over crowding. why people stick to Auckland-Wellington-Christchurch and perhaps Dunedin, Waikato or BoP is beyond me- unless your occupation is quite specialised there is work all over NZ and land and houses are so much cheaper away from the main centres. that would be my advice- resist the urge to join the lemming like rush to the above places and take the time to explore options in other areas more fully, even if this adds a couple of months to the process, which you'll have forgotten about the next year when you're sat on a beautiful beach.
) I'd avoid the big cities because we came here to get away from problems that stem from over crowding. why people stick to Auckland-Wellington-Christchurch and perhaps Dunedin, Waikato or BoP is beyond me- unless your occupation is quite specialised there is work all over NZ and land and houses are so much cheaper away from the main centres. that would be my advice- resist the urge to join the lemming like rush to the above places and take the time to explore options in other areas more fully, even if this adds a couple of months to the process, which you'll have forgotten about the next year when you're sat on a beautiful beach.
Mar 27th 2008, 1:55 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
we want a quieter, safer life elsewhere. Of course many consider Europe or America etc... but we are considering New Zealand as our preferred destination. However, we're only just at the beginning of the process and quite expect it to take a few years. My husband would need to sell his business (he wouldn't sell for less than 4 million so money would not be a problem for us) and that could take some time too.
Anyway, I'll play along.
You should just about be able to find a quiet, safe spot in the UK if you have 4 million in the bank. You don't really have to circumnavigate the globe to find a quiet spot for Kayleigh and Kimberley and the fact that millionaires aren't exactly queuing up to live in New Zealand should be taken as a hint.
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Mar 27th 2008, 2:16 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
I don't know...this forum is such a soft touch that I'd think this post was a 'giggle' if I saw it anywhere else.
Anyway, I'll play along.
You should just about be able to find a quiet, safe spot in the UK if you have 4 million in the bank. You don't really have to circumnavigate the globe to find a quiet spot for Kayleigh and Kimberley and the fact that millionaires aren't exactly queuing up to live in New Zealand should be taken as a hint.
Cased closed!
Anyway, I'll play along.
You should just about be able to find a quiet, safe spot in the UK if you have 4 million in the bank. You don't really have to circumnavigate the globe to find a quiet spot for Kayleigh and Kimberley and the fact that millionaires aren't exactly queuing up to live in New Zealand should be taken as a hint.
Cased closed!
Advice to the OP, if/when you do arrive don't let the locals know what you are worth or you'll be fleeced by anyone who can get a piece of the "fresh off".......just search for <ripped off> on this forum. Plus many Kiwis really resent cashed-up Pomms, even when most of us are not such.
Then again, why not buy a small property here and do the "swallow" thing by wintering in NZ......suppose the kids preclude that but it would be nice....
As far as working here goes I'm developing the view that its
"nice in NZ if you don't have to work for a living"
what with the level of taxation on low earners, the workplace politics, she'll be right, management Kiwi style, etc etc.
Mar 27th 2008, 2:19 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
I don't know...this forum is such a soft touch that I'd think this post was a 'giggle' if I saw it anywhere else.
Anyway, I'll play along.
You should just about be able to find a quiet, safe spot in the UK if you have 4 million in the bank. You don't really have to circumnavigate the globe to find a quiet spot for Kayleigh and Kimberley and the fact that millionaires aren't exactly queuing up to live in New Zealand should be taken as a hint.
Cased closed!
Anyway, I'll play along.
You should just about be able to find a quiet, safe spot in the UK if you have 4 million in the bank. You don't really have to circumnavigate the globe to find a quiet spot for Kayleigh and Kimberley and the fact that millionaires aren't exactly queuing up to live in New Zealand should be taken as a hint.
Cased closed!
Plenty have bought here as a bolt-hole, without necessarily working and living here fulltime. This trend has probably slowed down the last few years as the strength of the NZ$ makes the investment in property less attractive than it once was. About three years ago there was a loud outcry against foreign ownership of a lot of NZ's best coastal and iconic mountain properties.
NZIS also effectively closed down the investor visa which was subject to misuse, and its replacement is still work in progress.
Mar 27th 2008, 4:02 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
Hello.
We are really fed up with England. Really. I have recently discovered that I'm pregnant (possibly with twins) and we just don't want to bring our children up in the aggressive, over-populated, angry atmosphere of England. There are so many stabbings, road rage incidents, drugs, etc etc... we want a quieter, safer life elsewhere. Of course many consider Europe or America etc... but we are considering New Zealand as our preferred destination. However, we're only just at the beginning of the process and quite expect it to take a few years. My husband would need to sell his business (he wouldn't sell for less than 4 million so money would not be a problem for us) and that could take some time too.
My question is, if money isn't a problem, with my husband in a top notch job, and me educated to Masters Degree level (I'm a senior copywriter with my own business) where should we research as a place to live in NZ?
Our priorities are (of course!) a lovely warm climate, safe and good for children, not a city - even a village or small town would be fine near a good school. Our children and their happiness will be our primary concern!
I know I'm asking a really complicated question - just wondered if anyone could give us some pointers or recommend a good area considering what we want?
We are really fed up with England. Really. I have recently discovered that I'm pregnant (possibly with twins) and we just don't want to bring our children up in the aggressive, over-populated, angry atmosphere of England. There are so many stabbings, road rage incidents, drugs, etc etc... we want a quieter, safer life elsewhere. Of course many consider Europe or America etc... but we are considering New Zealand as our preferred destination. However, we're only just at the beginning of the process and quite expect it to take a few years. My husband would need to sell his business (he wouldn't sell for less than 4 million so money would not be a problem for us) and that could take some time too.
My question is, if money isn't a problem, with my husband in a top notch job, and me educated to Masters Degree level (I'm a senior copywriter with my own business) where should we research as a place to live in NZ?
Our priorities are (of course!) a lovely warm climate, safe and good for children, not a city - even a village or small town would be fine near a good school. Our children and their happiness will be our primary concern!
I know I'm asking a really complicated question - just wondered if anyone could give us some pointers or recommend a good area considering what we want?
If you've got that sort of money to play with why bother with NZ at all? Gurnsey, Jersey, Isle of Man would be a lot better........there's no point in having money in NZ because there's nothing to spend it on
, so give it all to a good cause.p.s. your husband must be frazzled - having a top notch job and running multi-million pound business is tricky
Last edited by Nerine; Mar 27th 2008 at 4:05 am.
Mar 27th 2008, 4:09 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
There's nothing complicated about it at all.
If you've got that sort of money to play with why bother with NZ at all? Gurnsey, Jersey, Isle of Man would be a lot better........there's no point in having money in NZ because there's nothing to spend it on, so give it all to a good cause.
p.s. your husband must be frazzled - having a top notch job and running multi-million pound business is tricky
If you've got that sort of money to play with why bother with NZ at all? Gurnsey, Jersey, Isle of Man would be a lot better........there's no point in having money in NZ because there's nothing to spend it on
, so give it all to a good cause.p.s. your husband must be frazzled - having a top notch job and running multi-million pound business is tricky
I do rather agree though that with that sort of money one could easily live a lifestyle oblivious to the problems and issues most dislike about the UK- if I was retiring somewhere with oodles of cash I'd choose South of France every time
Mar 27th 2008, 4:17 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
No one with money actually lives in New Zealand, it's just somewhere to own a holiday home or two when people want to take a break from the real world.
Mar 27th 2008, 6:11 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
It's all smoke, mirrors and credit cards.
Mar 27th 2008, 6:44 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
Come on Nerine- you make some really well balanced informative posts but this is just not on. There is a fabulous lifestyle to be had in NZ and many, many immigrants are very happy here and there's plenty to spend your money on, particularly if you fancy a boat or skis etc etc. The wink doesn't make up for the totally dismissive tone- don't forget how many of us live here and love it and there's no need to insult our choice.
I do rather agree though that with that sort of money one could easily live a lifestyle oblivious to the problems and issues most dislike about the UK- if I was retiring somewhere with oodles of cash I'd choose South of France every time
I do rather agree though that with that sort of money one could easily live a lifestyle oblivious to the problems and issues most dislike about the UK- if I was retiring somewhere with oodles of cash I'd choose South of France every time
'Stop knocking NZ, it's a great place if you have 4 million quid....if I had 4 million quid I'd live in France'
Mar 27th 2008, 6:56 am
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Re: Freedom to Choose - Where?
lots and lots anyway!I'd choose South of France if I had 4 million because I wouldn't need to work so the language barrier wouldn't be an issue; I could just learn it naturally. It'd be closer to UK by a very long chalk, have all the lifestyle factors of NZ but be in Europe with all the culture you can shake a stick at.
The next person with 4 million might prefer NZ to South of France because perhaps they're less keen on French culture- point is, it's a perfectly reasonable choice to make if you can choose anywhere, no limits.