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castlesorrento Aug 14th 2011 8:45 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by Jan D (Post 9559959)
The tone of this post is actually quite vindictive. The OP obviously dislikes his/her colleague and methinks there's a bit of jealousy involved here as well.
Meanwhile, the unsuspecting colleague thinks the OP is someone she can trust with personal information. The real moral of this tale is be very careful who you choose as friends..

Theres some very dishonest people around! My conscience is clear, it seems the same cannot be said for some posters on here

Luckybird Aug 14th 2011 9:16 pm

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Each person acts to his/her own conscience and there are two sides to every story (and we only know half of this particular story!) and to be honest I am a huge believer in Karma....so if Karma comes and bites a big chunk of their arse then so be it....and if not lucky them!! :p

Jan D Aug 14th 2011 9:56 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by castlesorrento (Post 9560077)
Theres some very dishonest people around! My conscience is clear, it seems the same cannot be said for some posters on here

I don't consider myself dishonest but if a colleague thought enough of me to confide something like this I wouldn't go sniping behind their back. It was no doubt the employer who instigated this anyway and likely quite commonplace.
Sad but true that a lot of people like this colleague find themselves caught between a rock and a hard place. If they want to stay they have no choice but to go along with it.

rick78 Aug 14th 2011 10:00 pm

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TROLL TROLL

castlesorrento Aug 14th 2011 10:27 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by rick78 (Post 9560228)
TROLL TROLL

would you like to add anything intelligent to the discussion?

BEVS Aug 15th 2011 10:21 am

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by rick78 (Post 9560228)
TROLL TROLL

Eh?

If this is to Jen D , then that person is simply expressing an opinion . Or maybe is the person being discussed. :blink: Who knows.

If this is to Castlesorrento, then they have already stated on the open forum that this is their 2nd username & that they are incognito.

However, I would consider it a courtesy, Castlesorrento, if you would PM me about this. Thank You.

Justcol Aug 15th 2011 1:41 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 
For gods sake just stfu with all the bickering.
Some dont like it some dont care....end

ExKiwilass Aug 15th 2011 2:07 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by Jan D (Post 9559959)
The tone of this post is actually quite vindictive. The OP obviously dislikes his/her colleague and methinks there's a bit of jealousy involved here as well.
Meanwhile, the unsuspecting colleague thinks the OP is someone she can trust with personal information. The real moral of this tale is be very careful who you choose as friends..

Wow, are you a mind reader? Cos I don't get that from the post at all.

If she isn't skilled and she's fidding the system she's being dishonest, teh OP has every right to wonder WTF is up.

ExKiwilass Aug 15th 2011 2:07 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 9561938)
For gods sake just stfu with all the bickering.
Some dont like it some dont care....end

or, don't read it if you don't like the bickering. end. :sneaky:

ExKiwilass Aug 15th 2011 2:10 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by Woodlea (Post 9558208)
I think it is everyone's duty to report fraud or any other crime where they are aware of it. Why should some people play by the rules while others don't? Are they better than the rest of us?

Yes, apparently anyone is allowed to do anything in pursuit of what they want. Didn't you get the memo? :sneaky:

(i'm with you)

ExKiwilass Aug 15th 2011 2:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles (Post 9559948)
It is perceived to be corruption free, because basically it's very un-Kiwi to dob someone in, fuelled further by the very few degrees of separation, 'matesmanship' and the 'she'll be right' attitude.

Without any evidence it's all 'hearsay', so there's very little anyone could do without jeopordising they're own employment arrangements.

very true, sadly.

chocolate cake Aug 15th 2011 7:20 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 9561986)
Wow, are you a mind reader? Cos I don't get that from the post at all.

If she isn't skilled and she's fidding the system she's being dishonest, teh OP has every right to wonder WTF is up.



Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 9561996)
Yes, apparently anyone is allowed to do anything in pursuit of what they want. Didn't you get the memo? :sneaky:

(i'm with you)

Agree with both of the above.

simonsi Aug 15th 2011 10:25 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 9558225)
...I grew up in Ireland where this kind of thing happens a lot and hurts no one.

au contraire. It hurts everyone. Same with A-level grade inflation. Appears to hurt no-one but in fact devalues the entire shooting match.

But, as someone famous once said, it is easier to take a million people for $1 than a single person for $1m. So a little hurt of a lot of people goes unnoticed and when it is noticed it gets this sort of reaction, particularly from those taking part (basic self-justification)....

The situation described by the OP requires several different falsifications to take place, many of them at the employer level, I'd guess the employer has a good (to them) reason for doing this.

Batty Aug 16th 2011 1:51 pm

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If this employer is finding it as difficult as we do to find a good, "skilled" administrator I'm not surprised that he's helping her. :rolleyes:

Charismatic Aug 16th 2011 3:08 pm

Re: False information on PR application
 

Originally Posted by simonsi (Post 9562510)
au contraire. It hurts everyone.

Yeah...in the same way that computers put typists our of work :lol:.

[Side track]The wilful exclusion of individuals from movement is an unnatural state, we do it because we perceive it to be of some value to society (too many expats spoil the country, only murderers and rapists will want to come here etc.) but I question that assertion. Indeed in many ways it may be paranoia more than rational judgment that allows the segregation of human populations to flourish.[/sidetrack]


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