False information on PR application
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Just wondering what others might make of this situation. I'm sure we all know of people who have had to jump through hoops to get permanent residency- gaining new job skills and qualifications and that kind of thing.
Anyway, I has recently discovered that a colleague of mine has falsified her permanent residency application by stating that she earns a lot more money than she actually does so that she meets the criteria for the minimum salary. Our employer is helping her with this by faking her pay slips etc. I have lost respect for her and my employer- I think it is morally wrong what they are doing.
Maybe its a common thing- my colleague seemed to think so and thinks its no big deal.
Any thoughts?
Anyway, I has recently discovered that a colleague of mine has falsified her permanent residency application by stating that she earns a lot more money than she actually does so that she meets the criteria for the minimum salary. Our employer is helping her with this by faking her pay slips etc. I have lost respect for her and my employer- I think it is morally wrong what they are doing.
Maybe its a common thing- my colleague seemed to think so and thinks its no big deal.
Any thoughts?
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WOW
That is totally incredible. The should throw the book at both of them.
That is totally incredible. The should throw the book at both of them.
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Just wondering what others might make of this situation. I'm sure we all know of people who have had to jump through hoops to get permanent residency- gaining new job skills and qualifications and that kind of thing.
Anyway, I has recently discovered that a colleague of mine has falsified her permanent residency application by stating that she earns a lot more money than she actually does so that she meets the criteria for the minimum salary. Our employer is helping her with this by faking her pay slips etc. I have lost respect for her and my employer- I think it is morally wrong what they are doing.
Maybe its a common thing- my colleague seemed to think so and thinks its no big deal.
Any thoughts?
Anyway, I has recently discovered that a colleague of mine has falsified her permanent residency application by stating that she earns a lot more money than she actually does so that she meets the criteria for the minimum salary. Our employer is helping her with this by faking her pay slips etc. I have lost respect for her and my employer- I think it is morally wrong what they are doing.
Maybe its a common thing- my colleague seemed to think so and thinks its no big deal.
Any thoughts?
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Your colleague must have a very good relationship with her boss. If payroll is official, it makes me wonder how they are faked ? Anyway, if it all unravels in the future, that will be karma. I mean what if her PR is revoked in future while living in NZ.
The closest I ever knew of a similar situation was when I knew someone who worked for the same company as her fiancee and their boss agreed to tell the mortgage provider that they earned more than they did so they could get a mortgage. In the fulness of time they went their separate ways, she still lives in the house they purchased twenty or more years later.
The closest I ever knew of a similar situation was when I knew someone who worked for the same company as her fiancee and their boss agreed to tell the mortgage provider that they earned more than they did so they could get a mortgage. In the fulness of time they went their separate ways, she still lives in the house they purchased twenty or more years later.
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Personally I wouldn't intervene however - give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves!
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Just wondering what others might make of this situation. I'm sure we all know of people who have had to jump through hoops to get permanent residency- gaining new job skills and qualifications and that kind of thing.
Anyway, I has recently discovered that a colleague of mine has falsified her permanent residency application by stating that she earns a lot more money than she actually does so that she meets the criteria for the minimum salary. Our employer is helping her with this by faking her pay slips etc. I have lost respect for her and my employer- I think it is morally wrong what they are doing.
Maybe its a common thing- my colleague seemed to think so and thinks its no big deal.
Any thoughts?
Anyway, I has recently discovered that a colleague of mine has falsified her permanent residency application by stating that she earns a lot more money than she actually does so that she meets the criteria for the minimum salary. Our employer is helping her with this by faking her pay slips etc. I have lost respect for her and my employer- I think it is morally wrong what they are doing.
Maybe its a common thing- my colleague seemed to think so and thinks its no big deal.
Any thoughts?
Perhaps you would care to elaborate further as you have chosen to post this here, rather than take it up with your employer, colleague or immigration.
Last edited by BEVS; Aug 9th 2011 at 7:47 pm.
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So I asked her a few questions as I know her partner isn't working, and she told me the truth. Apparently, she gets paid the larger amount into her bank account, and then she pays some of it back to our employer.
I know its none of my business and I certainly don't intend to do anything about it. By the way, I have used a different username, as I would not want anyone to know who I was talking about. Bevs, if this is a problem, let me know.
I don't really know why it is bothering me so much,but it has definitely left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
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I think this is quite common, I have heard of this tactic before. It is a nasty business as undoubtedly the wannabee PR will have to pay the 'favour' back many fold. Desperate times call for desperate measures for some folks and I am sure she will be well aware of the risks.
Whilst I would be keen to see the right thing done, I am not sure that I personally would intervene and see this lady out on her ear, I am pretty sure that would be the result and not forgetting that NZ is a very small and closed in world when it comes to your own future employment.
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Here's a story I was trying to recall about a similar type of scam:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/employment...ectid=10646755
An immigrant, who wanted to be known as Krystal, said she gained her residence only after paying close to $50,000 to her employer for her own wages and tax over nearly two years.
An employer, who has supported a migrant worker's residency through the PYO method, says he did not see anything wrong because "everyone does it".
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I work for a very small company and I was curious about how she was getting PR as none of us in our team earn enough. I myself have lived in NZ for 5 years and have had PR for 4 1/2 years. Mine was through my partners job, as his job is on the skills shortage list.
So I asked her a few questions as I know her partner isn't working, and she told me the truth. Apparently, she gets paid the larger amount into her bank account, and then she pays some of it back to our employer.
I know its none of my business and I certainly don't intend to do anything about it. By the way, I have used a different username, as I would not want anyone to know who I was talking about. Bevs, if this is a problem, let me know.
I don't really know why it is bothering me so much,but it has definitely left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
So I asked her a few questions as I know her partner isn't working, and she told me the truth. Apparently, she gets paid the larger amount into her bank account, and then she pays some of it back to our employer.
I know its none of my business and I certainly don't intend to do anything about it. By the way, I have used a different username, as I would not want anyone to know who I was talking about. Bevs, if this is a problem, let me know.
I don't really know why it is bothering me so much,but it has definitely left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
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get rid of work to residence. problem solved.
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No,I don't think so.Like I say, I have no intention of challenging my employer about this. I was just wondering if it is only me who is outraged by this, hence my posting on here.
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Am i the only one not seeing a problem with this ????




