I like a bit of a lie on an application form, it shows moxie. The "truth" is much over valued in our society .

Edited to add: In context though I grew up in Ireland where this kind of thing happens a lot and hurts no one.

Doesn't it hurt the people who are honest on their applications?

seems that some see this as a "victimless crime" - seen a few of those that are not so "victimless" lately
one of the reasons NZIS has an Investigations department, used to work with a couple of them

does WTR have any quota?
as I recall PR points cut off used to move around due to demand and quality of the applicants so if you falisfy an application then you are likely to do something to the numbers and possibly push another application back

Absolutely not since we don't set a quota. If she is clever enough to cheat them gobshites in power she will make a canny citizen .

Kind regards,
Professor Charismatic .

So doing it on quota-less category is OK but not so when there is a quota?

How about if someone spills the beans and she has to be investigated, leaving the NZIS plod with less time to chase down the real "scum", like pregnant overstayers, iranian taxi drivers, russian drug barons, etc???

As long as they are clever enough not to get caught that shouldn't be an issue. If NZIS feels like chasing up the petty things then that's up to them, it's the waiting time that really suffers though.

don't think we are gonna agree on how "trivial" this is.

blimey - the dragons roosters game is pretty eventful!!111

On reflection, perhaps if those people who helped themselves to flat screen TVs on the streets of Croydon had more respect for the law then they would have thought twice. And yes if the law appears stupid then it is weakened, however, if we glibly say "that's OK" as "it's not too bad" then it's a slipperly slope down to the final destination and Thatcher's "death of society". Nite nite

this

it happens more than people know, if the world was honest, it would be a better place no matter where you live, if the poster had not brought it up none of you would have know, people do different things to make there way in life right or wrong,
i also know someone who changed figures, to be able to work in nz

oh well that makes it ok then

never said it was OK, just joining in the discussion,

no point getting stressed over what someone else does,

like i said right or wrong that's how the system works

On initial reading thought it was good of employer to be helping out. But on reading this further along:

A migrant secretly pays an employer a large sum of money - say $50,000 - to cover the cost of his or her annual wages, including tax.

* The employer returns the take-home pay to the worker and pays the tax portion to the Government.

* The worker uses the fake wage payments as proof of employment to gain permanent residency.

I decided it maybe wasn't so good.
NZ has been heralded as a corruption free society and somehing like this, where you buy support, is the thin edge of the wedge.

It is perceived to be corruption free, because basically it's very un-Kiwi to dob someone in, fuelled further by the very few degrees of separation, 'matesmanship' and the 'she'll be right' attitude.

Without any evidence it's all 'hearsay', so there's very little anyone could do without jeopordising they're own employment arrangements.

The tone of this post is actually quite vindictive. The OP obviously dislikes his/her colleague and methinks there's a bit of jealousy involved here as well.
Meanwhile, the unsuspecting colleague thinks the OP is someone she can trust with personal information. The real moral of this tale is be very careful who you choose as friends..

Agree your totally spot on!