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Old Feb 1st 2012 | 8:17 am
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Hello,
Can anyone please answer a couple of questions for me. I am an Electrical/Electronics Service Technician looking to move to New Zealand and my occupation is on the ISSL but I do not have a HNC or Degree as the list says a level 6 qualification is required, I am City and Guilds trained. Would I still be able to get a work visa if I was offered a job?
At the moment I am trying to find out lots of info about getting the electrical workers registration. I am not an Installation Electrician, but if I was accepted for provisional registration as an Electrical Service Technician or Electrical Appliance Serviceperson would I be able to claim points for skills on the LTSS list where it says Electricians are required?
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Old Feb 9th 2012 | 1:02 am
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Hi newmaps

I'm in a similar vocation to yourself. I've read a few threads on here and the way I understand the LTSSL is you have to exactly match their criteria (i.e. education qualification level) to claim the points for LTSSL job. It wouldn't stop you getting a job but you couldn't claim the immigration points for a job on the LTSSL.

As an aside a mate of mine managed to do a course at NZ house (i think) in London to 'pass' the theoretical side for electrical registration. When he arrived in country he only had the practical side to worry about.
 
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Nick Chandler used to run the course up at NZIS House London

Contact him to ask Link HERE

Link EWRB overseas assessments HERE

Definition of Electrician - General 34111 - from ANZSCO

341111 ELECTRICIAN (GENERAL)

    341112 ELECTRICIAN (SPECIAL CLASS)

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      Old Mar 11th 2012 | 6:23 am
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      Hi Newmaps
      The best thing for you to do is ring - that's RING the EWRB and speak with them directly. Speaking with them is so much better than email. The EWRB are our governing body and set the requirements for registration.

      To do ANY electrical work here you have to hold a level of registration and you have to hold a current practising licence.

      Like many I did my CPL with Nick in NZ house. Nick is a very nice person and helpful and EXPENSIVE ! (you are after all paying for the course, his time and HIS AIRFARE)! Several companies run courses regularly - after all we all have to do this course every two years - for a fraction of the cost that Nick charges. There is nothing to stop you doing the course here, after you have arrived. What you can't do without a current CPL is work unsupervised. It's a matter of timing.

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      Sparkie down under

      I have a letter back from EWRB after submitting quails and references etc, stating I now need to pass regs exam, stage three practical assessment and safety training.
      Until these are done I will be issued with a limited certificate, am I best off waiting till I land to do these and what roughly do they entail?

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      I don't envy you, I was in the same position in the UK but I had a get out clause.....
      My wife is a midwife, she sailed through the criteria and we were accepted and emigrated last July.
      I never expected to be a full time dad, but it works for us.
      I am all for proper regulations and rules, but it does seem very confusing and long winded to get registered in any kind of electrical field.
      I am city and guilds level 3 + plus national certificate holder.
      All means nothing unless you tick every single box on the EWRB check sheet.

      Have you contacted NZQA ? You can send off all your certificates and get it assessed. INZ will accept their assesment and that should get you the points you need. As I remember it wasn't too expensive.

      If you don't have to get a level 6 to get enough points then it won't be a problem.
      Ring around a couple of immgration advisors and use their free preliminary assesment 15 minute phonecall.
      I spoke to a few and it cost me nothing, but got tidbits of info that helped, there is no obligation to use them.

      You can then get registered, apply for a job and do the regs once here (much cheaper) under a restricted license.
      Not ideal, but lots of sparkies have to take the pain just to get their visa.
      Small price to pay in the long run.

      It is much more straight forward, once in NZ but that doesn't help people trying to gain points for emigration.....it's a very common situation.
      Good luck.

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      Everyone HAS to do the safety course and we have to do it every two years so don't sweat that one.
      Everyone coming here will have to do the Regs. After all the Regs here are SOOOOOOOO different to the UK, so again no sweat there. (incidentally the pass mark is %60 - it's an open book exam).
      To demonstrate your skill level you will have to do a variety of tasks. Stage three would be the UK third year practical, so they have given you the least of tasks - lucky you.
      It's a course of about a week with several practical tests over a range of electrical topics, testing, motors, protection etc and followed by a design and install system on a 2000X1800 board - nothing you won't have done during your apprenticeship. I'd not say it's a walk in the park, but anyone who has done electrical training and worked in the electrical industry should breeze through.
       
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      Originally Posted by sparkie down under
      Everyone HAS to do the safety course and we have to do it every two years so don't sweat that one.
      Everyone coming here will have to do the Regs. After all the Regs here are SOOOOOOOO different to the UK, so again no sweat there. (incidentally the pass mark is %60 - it's an open book exam).
      To demonstrate your skill level you will have to do a variety of tasks. Stage three would be the UK third year practical, so they have given you the least of tasks - lucky you.
      It's a course of about a week with several practical tests over a range of electrical topics, testing, motors, protection etc and followed by a design and install system on a 2000X1800 board - nothing you won't have done during your apprenticeship. I'd not say it's a walk in the park, but anyone who has done electrical training and worked in the electrical industry should breeze through.
      Cheers bud. So it's not like a 2391 closed book sketch then, good stuff. Seems fair enough to me, got the stuff back from EWRB within 2 weeks very helpful, just waiting now.
      Don't think about coming back here, they are scrapping the jib & don't spend much time teaching the kids at college, apprentice worked with me the other week, saw a load of cut off pyro & thought it was micro-bore
       
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      The regs exam here isn't necessarily easy, but if you have been working with the 17th ed then you ought not to find it that hard. In the last round just %50 passed - which is totally disgusting I reckon. You'll find that sparks here range from the pits, (and there's heaps of them), to too dam smart for their own good (me - lol). Personally I can't wait to get out of this industry - buts that's a whole new topic.

      Read up on motors (star and delta), overloads and cable cals for the practical

      You'll be given a year to get everything sorted. Do it all at the soonest possibility, that way should things go tits up you'll be able to have a second bite of the cherry. There was a bloke on my course, he'd been here 11 months and failed the practical. Man that was an interesting conversation to overhear as he tried to bully the tutor into giving him a pass. No pass=no rego and no rego = no job.

      best of luck
       

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