Do you miss historic Europe?
#16
Re: Do you miss historic Europe?
I hope so! It seems they first started clearing the rubble in October 2007, and it looked to me like they have an awful long way to go! I believe they are still giving performances and shows though.
#17
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hehe. Sounds like small pangs of homesickness to me. It was my kiwi friend's first time overseas, and nearing the end of her 4 weeks away she was getting seriously homesick for NZ.
Ouch, life membership! Can you pass it on to a family member in the UK?
I'm moving to Paris - I'll probably end up sick of it! My girlfriend's a Parisian, and I can't see her letting me take her away from hustle and bustle of an ancient city, although she is contemplating starting up a B&B in the Pyrenees in a few years time. I'm hoping we can take a holiday to New Zealand next year.
I was in Stratford Upon Avon yesterday. It's a bit of a mess at the moment, as they're rebuilding the Royal Shakespeare Company theatre building by the looks of things. Dirt, scaffolding and barriers all over the parkland down by the river Avon.
Ouch, life membership! Can you pass it on to a family member in the UK?
I'm moving to Paris - I'll probably end up sick of it! My girlfriend's a Parisian, and I can't see her letting me take her away from hustle and bustle of an ancient city, although she is contemplating starting up a B&B in the Pyrenees in a few years time. I'm hoping we can take a holiday to New Zealand next year.
I was in Stratford Upon Avon yesterday. It's a bit of a mess at the moment, as they're rebuilding the Royal Shakespeare Company theatre building by the looks of things. Dirt, scaffolding and barriers all over the parkland down by the river Avon.
Good luck with the move
I'm from Paris myself, the only thing I really miss about home is food I'm lucky enough to be able to fly home once a year though, so it makes it even more special...I'm already gearing up for next September
Jen
#18
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Then there are Parisians in NZ! I imagine not too many?
Parisian cuisine varies a great deal, I've had some very memorable meals there, and some terrible ones (along with some atrocious service), but France in general is a gastronomic paradise isn't it.
Thanks for the goodluck wishes. You're very luck to travel back once a year; those flights don't come cheap.
#19
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I guess this questions is posed mainly for ex-pats from Europe. I've just spent 10 days showing my Wellington kiwi friend around historic sites in the UK, which she has been really impressed by.
Do you miss old churches, stately homes, castles and the rich history that's associated with Europe, or do you forget about these things given the beautiful landscape, and different type of lifestyle in NZ?
Do you miss old churches, stately homes, castles and the rich history that's associated with Europe, or do you forget about these things given the beautiful landscape, and different type of lifestyle in NZ?
YER RIGHT!!!! NOT!!!
#21
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are you a member at the RSC?
register and you may get notified of seats quicker - binned their emails of late as its making me feel the need for culture......
used to live about 30 minutes away and got there as often as we could fob off the kids......so not that often when they were very young ....... Personally I'd rather have the intimacy of the Swan to the RST.
As far as the gold card goes G-J-B got asked by my mum to leave one behind but I thought that we might loose it if it was used fraudulently...?? Anyway it was mainly for taking the kids to Kenelworth and to the summer jousting and shows.......
#22
Joined: Nov 2006
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No we're not Lardyl - we don't go often enough to justify the cost of membership . We've haven't had problems getting tickets in the past at Christmas time so I'll just keep haunting the website until they become available, should strike lucky.
#23
Joined: Nov 2006
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Well, the buildings aren't that old, but they look oldish. The Arts District on Worcester Street and Christ College is probably what they are talking about.
#24
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I guess this questions is posed mainly for ex-pats from Europe. I've just spent 10 days showing my Wellington kiwi friend around historic sites in the UK, which she has been really impressed by.
Do you miss old churches, stately homes, castles and the rich history that's associated with Europe, or do you forget about these things given the beautiful landscape, and different type of lifestyle in NZ?
Do you miss old churches, stately homes, castles and the rich history that's associated with Europe, or do you forget about these things given the beautiful landscape, and different type of lifestyle in NZ?
What it made me do though is research the history of NZ.
Young as it may be it NZ history is very complex and interesting.
Like most Kiwi's my heritage in the main is from the NH (apart from my Maori Tipuna that is).
#25
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Re: Do you miss historic Europe?
Yes I do. It's not so much the individual buildings, but the varied character which they add to places and cities. NZ can seems very bland at times and you long for the different places and the different character of Europe instead of the similar look which many places have here.
#26
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No offence taken whatsoever! Funny to hear the opinions of the Dutch over in France too; I think the French like to moan about them more than the English. It strikes me as a sort of love/hate affair.
13 years is a long time to be homesick! I'm hoping I won't suffer when in France, but at least I know I won't be on the otherside of the world when wanting to visit friends and family. Thanks for the goodluck wishes.
13 years is a long time to be homesick! I'm hoping I won't suffer when in France, but at least I know I won't be on the otherside of the world when wanting to visit friends and family. Thanks for the goodluck wishes.
just nosy really, how is France working out.
I´m news to the forum and have just picked up on this old posting.
To my knowledge you have to speak French to live in France, they often refuseto speak another klanguage even if they could.
What are your experiences?
#27
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Fun reading all the replies.
I'm actually moving to Paris tomorrow!! You really do need to speak French, but I'm slowly getting there, and my girlfriend is French which helps.
Took my kiwi friend to Christchurch Oxford whilst she was over. She started recognising all sorts of names from both Australia and NZ. For example on the border of Leicestershire, where I've been living, we have the nearby village of Melbourne (which I believe is where the Australian city got its name, I forget the exact history and the name of the person involved), there's also a Wellington down the road, plus several others.
I'm actually moving to Paris tomorrow!! You really do need to speak French, but I'm slowly getting there, and my girlfriend is French which helps.
Took my kiwi friend to Christchurch Oxford whilst she was over. She started recognising all sorts of names from both Australia and NZ. For example on the border of Leicestershire, where I've been living, we have the nearby village of Melbourne (which I believe is where the Australian city got its name, I forget the exact history and the name of the person involved), there's also a Wellington down the road, plus several others.
#29
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.. on the border of Leicestershire, where I've been living, we have the nearby village of Melbourne (which I believe is where the Australian city got its name, I forget the exact history and the name of the person involved), there's also a Wellington down the road, plus several others.
Wellington was named after Arthur Wellesley, the first Duke of Wellington and victor of the Battle of Waterloo. His title comes from the town of Wellington in Somerset.
Many other NZ places take their names from British people who never set foot in NZ (as far as I know) , such as Napier, Blenheim, Nelson, Marlborough, Palmerston North, Hastings, Havelock, Clive
However, going back to the original question, its not until you move from a rich heritage like Britain that you really understand the cultural void that there is in New Zealand.
Thats why my conclusion is that NZ looks good at first glance but (and I'm quoting someone else here) scratch below the surface and there is nothing there.
#30
Joined: Nov 2006
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There is quite a rich Maori heritage though which is very evident, and also a lot of 'Pakeha' history going back to early settler days that's quite interesting.
You can't expect a lot from a young country with only 4 million or so inhabitants. The culture is there if you know where to look, you're just not going to find it in Louvre-like buildings or grandiose Opera houses. To say the country is totally devoid of culture is wrong, Dame Kiri, Hone Tuwhare and Rowena Othlie Jackson alone would be a testament to that.
You can't expect a lot from a young country with only 4 million or so inhabitants. The culture is there if you know where to look, you're just not going to find it in Louvre-like buildings or grandiose Opera houses. To say the country is totally devoid of culture is wrong, Dame Kiri, Hone Tuwhare and Rowena Othlie Jackson alone would be a testament to that.