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In the last few years we have come to realise that in the grand scheme of things the weather really is pretty unimportant. We have spent the last 10 years in Queensland so we are used to 'good' weather, having said that our kids often dont play outside because it's too hot or humid or wet.
The bad part of winter doesn't really last that long and the arrival of spring makes it worthwhile. It really depends on the type of person you are, if beaches and lying around in the sun are the things that do it for you then you might suffer more but for us those things are largely irrelevant and want a more cerebral life.
The bad part of winter doesn't really last that long and the arrival of spring makes it worthwhile. It really depends on the type of person you are, if beaches and lying around in the sun are the things that do it for you then you might suffer more but for us those things are largely irrelevant and want a more cerebral life.
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Christmas Day 25 December 2010 Edinburgh, Scotland
After four weeks of continuous cold to very cold weather with some really severe frosts at night and occasionally throughout the day over thick snow and dangerous icy conditions, Christmas Day dawned clear but very cold indeed. Although the daylight lasted only 7 hours 10 minutes the sun shone for much of the day and it made the frost on the snow sparkle like millions of jewels. The sky was a very pale frosy blue and although the temperature did not rise above -5.7C before plummetting down again as it began to get dark at around 15:45 hours.
Technically it was not in fact a White Christmas as no snow actually fell on the day, in accordance with the Meteorological Office definition, but apart from that it was a true White Christmas in every sense of the words....quite magical in fact......Christmas Day 2010.
A recent report issued by scientists predict a sharp drop in winter temperatures in Western Europe, including the UK, over the next 30 years - with a fall of up to 3C in average winter temperatures in spite of "global warming". It sounds bizarre but apparently it's all due to a fairly rapid deline in the effects of the Gulf Stream.
The last two winters 2009/10 and 2010/11 saw lengthy periods of severe cold and heavy snowfalls in most of the UK.
After four weeks of continuous cold to very cold weather with some really severe frosts at night and occasionally throughout the day over thick snow and dangerous icy conditions, Christmas Day dawned clear but very cold indeed. Although the daylight lasted only 7 hours 10 minutes the sun shone for much of the day and it made the frost on the snow sparkle like millions of jewels. The sky was a very pale frosy blue and although the temperature did not rise above -5.7C before plummetting down again as it began to get dark at around 15:45 hours.
Technically it was not in fact a White Christmas as no snow actually fell on the day, in accordance with the Meteorological Office definition, but apart from that it was a true White Christmas in every sense of the words....quite magical in fact......Christmas Day 2010.
A recent report issued by scientists predict a sharp drop in winter temperatures in Western Europe, including the UK, over the next 30 years - with a fall of up to 3C in average winter temperatures in spite of "global warming". It sounds bizarre but apparently it's all due to a fairly rapid deline in the effects of the Gulf Stream.
The last two winters 2009/10 and 2010/11 saw lengthy periods of severe cold and heavy snowfalls in most of the UK.
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Last winter was the coldest on record in the UK. I'm a night driver and experienced -17 one night. Believe it or not I didn't think it was that bad with the appropriate clothing on. Warmer summers?.......erm, it's been mild so far, low 20's mainly with a couple of days in the high 20's. So, colder winters yes, warmer summers....the jury is out!
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I have never been a beach or suntan person and my wife definitely isn't, we have been in Queensland about 10 years and have been to the beach perhaps 12 or 15 times.
The really bad part of the winter passes pretty quickly but maybe worth going after that as you say and then acclimatise slowly.
The really bad part of the winter passes pretty quickly but maybe worth going after that as you say and then acclimatise slowly.
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The weather in England is also of concern to me especially if I arrive there in autumn. After most of the past 51 years in Australia, it could be a shock to my system. Nevertheless, Adelaide was only 11.4º C to-day, the lowest for three years, but I didn't feel cold gathering things outside for a skip.
I suppose I must learn to dress accordingly.
I suppose I must learn to dress accordingly.
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My Dad always used to say you can easily make yourself warmer but it's hard to make yourself cooler. It will be hard for awhile but from experience it doesn't take long to adjust.
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The weather in England is also of concern to me especially if I arrive there in autumn. After most of the past 51 years in Australia, it could be a shock to my system. Nevertheless, Adelaide was only 11.4º C to-day, the lowest for three years, but I didn't feel cold gathering things outside for a skip.
I suppose I must learn to dress accordingly.
I suppose I must learn to dress accordingly.
Houses are warm inside though, but don't expect to do many casual, outside activities during those months.
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OMG, 3 degrees, where did you live in the UK ? Average winter temps are just under 7 degrees which means it often gets warmer than that and of course colder but to say it doesn't often get above 3 is not really accurate. Also remember that everyone handles cold (and heat) differently. I function perfectly normally in the cold so doing stuff outside isn't an issue but it is in the heat.
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I'm a native of Kentucky here in the US. We get all the extremes of weather, really cold winters and really hot summers (in the middle of the heatwave right now). I'm moving to Glasgow in about 7 weeks. I lived in Glasgow for about 6mo, over the fall and winter a few years back, and I didn't think it was anywhere near as cold as what I'm used to here. And I can't stand the heat/humidity so I'll be glad to go somewhere that only gets about 90F a few times a year (if that).
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OMG, 3 degrees, where did you live in the UK ? Average winter temps are just under 7 degrees which means it often gets warmer than that and of course colder but to say it doesn't often get above 3 is not really accurate. Also remember that everyone handles cold (and heat) differently. I function perfectly normally in the cold so doing stuff outside isn't an issue but it is in the heat.
The average temp in the UK in Winter (Dec, Jan, Feb) since 1971 - 2000 (30 years) is 3.7 degrees Celcius. Over the last four winters it has been exactly 3 degrees on average.
Here are the links:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2008/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2009/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2010/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2011/winter.html
The daily mean temp graphs don't show it getting much higher than 7 degrees max either. I'm not sure where you got 7 degrees from (and "often warmer than that"). It could be the average max temps though, which only last a few hours at most.
And yes, people do handle heat and cold differently, but for someone who has lived in Florida for 10 years, it will be an adjustment.
For someone who has lived in South Australia it could be manageable.
As I have said before, wrap up warm.
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I lived in Surrey.
The average temp in the UK in Winter (Dec, Jan, Feb) since 1971 - 2000 (30 years) is 3.7 degrees Celcius. Over the last four winters it has been exactly 3 degrees on average.
Here are the links:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2008/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2009/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2010/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2011/winter.html
The daily mean temp graphs don't show it getting much higher than 7 degrees max either. I'm not sure where you got 7 degrees from (and "often warmer than that"). It could be the average max temps though, which only last a few hours at most.
And yes, people do handle heat and cold differently, but for someone who has lived in Florida for 10 years, it will be an adjustment.
For someone who has lived in South Australia it could be manageable.
As I have said before, wrap up warm.
The average temp in the UK in Winter (Dec, Jan, Feb) since 1971 - 2000 (30 years) is 3.7 degrees Celcius. Over the last four winters it has been exactly 3 degrees on average.
Here are the links:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2008/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2009/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2010/winter.html
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2011/winter.html
The daily mean temp graphs don't show it getting much higher than 7 degrees max either. I'm not sure where you got 7 degrees from (and "often warmer than that"). It could be the average max temps though, which only last a few hours at most.
And yes, people do handle heat and cold differently, but for someone who has lived in Florida for 10 years, it will be an adjustment.
For someone who has lived in South Australia it could be manageable.
As I have said before, wrap up warm.
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Last winter was the coldest on record in the UK. I'm a night driver and experienced -17 one night. Believe it or not I didn't think it was that bad with the appropriate clothing on. Warmer summers?.......erm, it's been mild so far, low 20's mainly with a couple of days in the high 20's. So, colder winters yes, warmer summers....the jury is out!
Also there hasnt been a warm summer since 2006 in the UK. You have just had the coolest June since 1991.
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I've always said something similar, albeit a bit more crudely: you can always put more clothes on if you're cold, but once you're naked, there isn't much more you can do to cool off!
I'm a native of Kentucky here in the US. We get all the extremes of weather, really cold winters and really hot summers (in the middle of the heatwave right now). I'm moving to Glasgow in about 7 weeks. I lived in Glasgow for about 6mo, over the fall and winter a few years back, and I didn't think it was anywhere near as cold as what I'm used to here. And I can't stand the heat/humidity so I'll be glad to go somewhere that only gets about 90F a few times a year (if that).
I'm a native of Kentucky here in the US. We get all the extremes of weather, really cold winters and really hot summers (in the middle of the heatwave right now). I'm moving to Glasgow in about 7 weeks. I lived in Glasgow for about 6mo, over the fall and winter a few years back, and I didn't think it was anywhere near as cold as what I'm used to here. And I can't stand the heat/humidity so I'll be glad to go somewhere that only gets about 90F a few times a year (if that).
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After 12 years in W.A we timed our return in May....the Winter was cold but we just "rugged" up and at least it felt Christmassy etc...this year though we have booked to go away in Winter just to break it up, just a choice thing really as we like to go away that time of year anyway plus we enjoy being in the UK in the Spring/Summer time...light nights and there are plenty of things to see and do. My Dad prefers to go away Jan/Feb and My F.I.L Oct/Nov. I am sure you will be fine, good luck