WARNING.. returning home hunters
Nov 18th 2009, 10:12 pm
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
Agreed, but the real sad thing is that there are plenty of unaware, poor and desperate people out there. The price they ask for the property is way below the norm and of course, those who cannot afford normal prices are targetted.
For those desperate for somewhere to live and maybe new in a foreign land etc, could well fall for it.
For those desperate for somewhere to live and maybe new in a foreign land etc, could well fall for it.
I was actually responding to Post #2 about the car scam ... not sure a similar scam exists for housing (but wouldn't be surprised).
Nov 19th 2009, 12:07 am
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Nov 19th 2009, 5:54 am
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
Poster #2 raised the subject of car scams, and I was responding to ... oh, never mind, I know what I meant even if no-one else did ...
Nov 19th 2009, 7:12 am
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
Yes, it's been on telly recently. You bring cash, they bring the cosh. You meet them in a car park and they steal your cash and you get the cosh.
Why on Earth you'd bring several thousand in cash to meet a perfect stranger in a car park I can't fathom. Especially if they say they'll sell you a 2-year old BMW for £5k or some other ridiculous price.
No-one deserves to get robbed but some people don't get a lot of sympathy from me in these situations.
Why on Earth you'd bring several thousand in cash to meet a perfect stranger in a car park I can't fathom. Especially if they say they'll sell you a 2-year old BMW for £5k or some other ridiculous price.
No-one deserves to get robbed but some people don't get a lot of sympathy from me in these situations.
But yeah, the 'bargain' priced vehicles and car park meetings have scams written all over them.
No, I have a strict policy: never before 10 a.m. (except Christmas Day).
Nov 19th 2009, 7:19 am
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
It was quite common in motorbike circles some years ago, especially after the 916 was launched. Sellers didn't want prospective buyers knowing where they lived (where the bike was stored). my friend ran/runs a specialist motorbike race spares business and he used to say virtually all of the client with high end bikes use their company as a delivery address.
But yeah, the 'bargain' priced vehicles and car park meetings have scams written all over them.
Yeah but which time zone do you use?
But yeah, the 'bargain' priced vehicles and car park meetings have scams written all over them.
Yeah but which time zone do you use?
Nov 19th 2009, 7:32 am
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
I'm not sure about the media attention for these scams back home in the UK, but I know here in the US it is on the telly all the time. The 'Nigeria' or South African' connection seem to be the key word, I cannot believe anyone in the US hasn't heard of these scams by now, yet people are still falling for them...it's beyond me
Nov 19th 2009, 7:54 am
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
I got what you were saying sweety, I'm not sure about the media attention for these scams back home in the UK, but I know here in the US it is on the telly all the time. The 'Nigeria' or South African' connection seem to be the key word, I cannot believe anyone in the US hasn't heard of these scams by now, yet people are still falling for them...it's beyond me
I'm not sure about the media attention for these scams back home in the UK, but I know here in the US it is on the telly all the time. The 'Nigeria' or South African' connection seem to be the key word, I cannot believe anyone in the US hasn't heard of these scams by now, yet people are still falling for them...it's beyond meThe thing is, it is not savvie people like us who will get caught out, its the more vulnerable they prey on. There are plenty of people out there who, for one reason or another (mental health issues, learning difficulties etc etc), who would fall for it through no fault of their own. Not everyone is like us, and its these people they rely on to outwit
Nov 19th 2009, 7:55 am
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Nov 19th 2009, 9:23 am
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The thing is, it is not savvie people like us who will get caught out, its the more vulnerable they prey on. There are plenty of people out there who, for one reason or another (mental health issues, learning difficulties etc etc), who would fall for it through no fault of their own. Not everyone is like us, and its these people they rely on to outwit
Nov 19th 2009, 5:29 pm
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
We have recently been looking for a nice house to rent and like many people here in UK, we took a look on the Gumtree website. OH came across this property and was sent this reply back from the "supposed" landlord.
Hi
My name is Johnson Mark the owner of the 2 bedroom house, I want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me, my wife and Son to leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean at the time and the person that will rent it to take it as if it were its own.. So for now, We are here in West Africa (Nigeria) in our new house and put all my worries off concerning the maintenance of the apartment,
since i am not residing there for now.I left behind some Facilities and electronics which include the rent,and a DVD player,air conditioning, alarm system. The kitchen is fully equipped with all necessary cooking utensils,a refrigerator-freezer, four-hob and oven, microwave,dishwasher and washing machine, My Computer Connected with Internet Access Also the keys to the House are right here with me, andthe lease document. Which i can send to you after all necessary agreement has be accepted. Also i will like you to know that the rent charges is not really the issue ,but your absolute maintenance of my apartment is most important thing so will want you to get back to me with the Application form below
Flat Address: 909 S Marlyn Ave, Essex, MD 21221, UK
FILL IN THE RENT APPLICATION FORM
1)Your Full Name
2)Your Full Address & Phone Number
3)How old are you?
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8)Occupation?
9)When do you want to move in?
10How long do you want to stay in my apartment?
11 Pictures of all the Occupant that will stay in my apartment.
One Mr Braid called me about the apartment,I told him that I can't give him the apartment because he loves smoking,drinking and don't want him to get drunked and damaged my property one day. So If you are still interested, Note that the rent is going to be £400 Per month No extra fees.
I personally will actually come visiting you sometimes during the year as our new tenant.
Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and
contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys of the house to you.
Thanks
Johnson
It is sooooooooooo obviously another slant on previous Nigerian scams. DO NOT fall for it!
This is the first time i have come across this happening in the rental property market. Maybe they have had to broaden theirs ets due to people catching onto their other scams.
As with most things in life, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is!!
Hi
My name is Johnson Mark the owner of the 2 bedroom house, I want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me, my wife and Son to leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean at the time and the person that will rent it to take it as if it were its own.. So for now, We are here in West Africa (Nigeria) in our new house and put all my worries off concerning the maintenance of the apartment,
since i am not residing there for now.I left behind some Facilities and electronics which include the rent,and a DVD player,air conditioning, alarm system. The kitchen is fully equipped with all necessary cooking utensils,a refrigerator-freezer, four-hob and oven, microwave,dishwasher and washing machine, My Computer Connected with Internet Access Also the keys to the House are right here with me, andthe lease document. Which i can send to you after all necessary agreement has be accepted. Also i will like you to know that the rent charges is not really the issue ,but your absolute maintenance of my apartment is most important thing so will want you to get back to me with the Application form below
Flat Address: 909 S Marlyn Ave, Essex, MD 21221, UK
FILL IN THE RENT APPLICATION FORM
1)Your Full Name
2)Your Full Address & Phone Number
3)How old are you?
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8)Occupation?
9)When do you want to move in?
10How long do you want to stay in my apartment?
11 Pictures of all the Occupant that will stay in my apartment.
One Mr Braid called me about the apartment,I told him that I can't give him the apartment because he loves smoking,drinking and don't want him to get drunked and damaged my property one day. So If you are still interested, Note that the rent is going to be £400 Per month No extra fees.
I personally will actually come visiting you sometimes during the year as our new tenant.
Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and
contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys of the house to you.
Thanks
Johnson
It is sooooooooooo obviously another slant on previous Nigerian scams. DO NOT fall for it!
This is the first time i have come across this happening in the rental property market. Maybe they have had to broaden theirs ets due to people catching onto their other scams.
As with most things in life, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is!!
Nov 19th 2009, 9:16 pm
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Nov 21st 2009, 9:12 am
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
Here's a similar one I just received via emailfrom Gumtree.. from Pastor Collins 
Thanks for the interest you have in my flat its well furnished. My flat is still available for the said period and you can rent my flat as long as you pay your rent at when due. Here are the necessary things you need to know about the rent and deposit.
Rent : £ 130.00 pw
Minimum Stay : 1 month Security Deposit: £ 500.00 (Returnable at the end of a week stay in my flat) Utility bills inclusive ( water, gas, council tax, TV license and wireless Internet) Utility Cost : £ 0.00 pcm
I want you to understand that a lot people who wants the landlord to retain the flat before arriving to London has disappointed the landlords in many ways.
1.Some outside tenants do not have the money to pay the rent and yet they dis-stop the the landlord to arrange a viewing with their friend or relative who are in London.
2.Also some do not meet up with the appointments which has led to the dismissal of some landlords in office by there employees.
Therefore,it has been resolved that a willing and serious outside tenants should be able to make a transfer to the name of the person coming to view the flat on his or her behalf,which a confirmation will be made on the transfer done to check if he or she is capable of paying the rent before arranging for a viewing or to retain the flat till your arrival and also stop other people from viewing the flat.
Please note that the transfer would have to be done through western union or money gram post office from where you are to UK so that it can be checked online before you or your partner picks up the money.Please note that any money sent to your partner can as well be picked back by your self after it has been confirmed on the internet website of western union or money gram post office.
Please note that the cost of transfer is refundable to you when you come for viewing.Once the transfer is done to the UK,you will only need to call me so i can have it forwarded to my lawyer to make a check if truly the money is there in the UK western union or money gram post office website internet. of transfer.Kindly reply for any further information......07024030588 and i will like to know where you are coming from to stay in my flat.
Regards,
Pastor Collins.
It is worthwhile giving a warning about such things. My partners niece lost money being conned online by similar to this, and she's no moron!
If it makes one person aware that wasn't before then it's worth it IMHO
Thanks for the interest you have in my flat its well furnished. My flat is still available for the said period and you can rent my flat as long as you pay your rent at when due. Here are the necessary things you need to know about the rent and deposit.
Rent : £ 130.00 pw
Minimum Stay : 1 month Security Deposit: £ 500.00 (Returnable at the end of a week stay in my flat) Utility bills inclusive ( water, gas, council tax, TV license and wireless Internet) Utility Cost : £ 0.00 pcm
I want you to understand that a lot people who wants the landlord to retain the flat before arriving to London has disappointed the landlords in many ways.
1.Some outside tenants do not have the money to pay the rent and yet they dis-stop the the landlord to arrange a viewing with their friend or relative who are in London.
2.Also some do not meet up with the appointments which has led to the dismissal of some landlords in office by there employees.
Therefore,it has been resolved that a willing and serious outside tenants should be able to make a transfer to the name of the person coming to view the flat on his or her behalf,which a confirmation will be made on the transfer done to check if he or she is capable of paying the rent before arranging for a viewing or to retain the flat till your arrival and also stop other people from viewing the flat.
Please note that the transfer would have to be done through western union or money gram post office from where you are to UK so that it can be checked online before you or your partner picks up the money.Please note that any money sent to your partner can as well be picked back by your self after it has been confirmed on the internet website of western union or money gram post office.
Please note that the cost of transfer is refundable to you when you come for viewing.Once the transfer is done to the UK,you will only need to call me so i can have it forwarded to my lawyer to make a check if truly the money is there in the UK western union or money gram post office website internet. of transfer.Kindly reply for any further information......07024030588 and i will like to know where you are coming from to stay in my flat.
Regards,
Pastor Collins.
It is worthwhile giving a warning about such things. My partners niece lost money being conned online by similar to this, and she's no moron!
If it makes one person aware that wasn't before then it's worth it IMHO
Nov 21st 2009, 9:47 am
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
Time for the 419ers.
Nov 22nd 2009, 10:40 pm
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Re: WARNING.. returning home hunters
When I was looking for flat to rent, placed ad in Gumtree Glasgow. I had one reply that supplied me with pictures that were so obviously taken from a magazine it was funny. This and a few other were very similiar in style to yours. I did let Gumtree know, not sure if anything can really be done though.
We have recently been looking for a nice house to rent and like many people here in UK, we took a look on the Gumtree website. OH came across this property and was sent this reply back from the "supposed" landlord.
Hi
My name is Johnson Mark the owner of the 2 bedroom house, I want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me, my wife and Son to leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean at the time and the person that will rent it to take it as if it were its own.. So for now, We are here in West Africa (Nigeria) in our new house and put all my worries off concerning the maintenance of the apartment,
since i am not residing there for now.I left behind some Facilities and electronics which include the rent,and a DVD player,air conditioning, alarm system. The kitchen is fully equipped with all necessary cooking utensils,a refrigerator-freezer, four-hob and oven, microwave,dishwasher and washing machine, My Computer Connected with Internet Access Also the keys to the House are right here with me, andthe lease document. Which i can send to you after all necessary agreement has be accepted. Also i will like you to know that the rent charges is not really the issue ,but your absolute maintenance of my apartment is most important thing so will want you to get back to me with the Application form below
Flat Address: 909 S Marlyn Ave, Essex, MD 21221, UK
FILL IN THE RENT APPLICATION FORM
1)Your Full Name
2)Your Full Address & Phone Number
3)How old are you?
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8)Occupation?
9)When do you want to move in?
10How long do you want to stay in my apartment?
11 Pictures of all the Occupant that will stay in my apartment.
One Mr Braid called me about the apartment,I told him that I can't give him the apartment because he loves smoking,drinking and don't want him to get drunked and damaged my property one day. So If you are still interested, Note that the rent is going to be £400 Per month No extra fees.
I personally will actually come visiting you sometimes during the year as our new tenant.
Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and
contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys of the house to you.
Thanks
Johnson
It is sooooooooooo obviously another slant on previous Nigerian scams. DO NOT fall for it!
This is the first time i have come across this happening in the rental property market. Maybe they have had to broaden theirs ets due to people catching onto their other scams.
As with most things in life, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is!!
Hi
My name is Johnson Mark the owner of the 2 bedroom house, I want you to know that it was due to my transfer that makes me, my wife and Son to leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a responsible person that can take very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean at the time and the person that will rent it to take it as if it were its own.. So for now, We are here in West Africa (Nigeria) in our new house and put all my worries off concerning the maintenance of the apartment,
since i am not residing there for now.I left behind some Facilities and electronics which include the rent,and a DVD player,air conditioning, alarm system. The kitchen is fully equipped with all necessary cooking utensils,a refrigerator-freezer, four-hob and oven, microwave,dishwasher and washing machine, My Computer Connected with Internet Access Also the keys to the House are right here with me, andthe lease document. Which i can send to you after all necessary agreement has be accepted. Also i will like you to know that the rent charges is not really the issue ,but your absolute maintenance of my apartment is most important thing so will want you to get back to me with the Application form below
Flat Address: 909 S Marlyn Ave, Essex, MD 21221, UK
FILL IN THE RENT APPLICATION FORM
1)Your Full Name
2)Your Full Address & Phone Number
3)How old are you?
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8)Occupation?
9)When do you want to move in?
10How long do you want to stay in my apartment?
11 Pictures of all the Occupant that will stay in my apartment.
One Mr Braid called me about the apartment,I told him that I can't give him the apartment because he loves smoking,drinking and don't want him to get drunked and damaged my property one day. So If you are still interested, Note that the rent is going to be £400 Per month No extra fees.
I personally will actually come visiting you sometimes during the year as our new tenant.
Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and
contacting you. Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys of the house to you.
Thanks
Johnson
It is sooooooooooo obviously another slant on previous Nigerian scams. DO NOT fall for it!
This is the first time i have come across this happening in the rental property market. Maybe they have had to broaden theirs ets due to people catching onto their other scams.
As with most things in life, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is!!
