Mallory

This is worth a read.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/l...bursaries.html

Grayling

Nurse training in California is university based.

What is the difference?

janeyk

We returned to Cornwall from being 18months in NZ at the beginning of 2010 and we noticed a huge difference more and more people are moving to cornwall and working from home keeping property prices even more inflated they are rude do not want to involve themselves in local activities etc. We noticed more commercialisim ie Cornwall was a quaint place not big chains of travellodges, macd's pizza huts i think when we moved there in 2003 there was one of each, now they are aeverywhere small B & B's etc going to the wall etc it has definatley spoilt the county. we have now ping ponged and enjoying the beach life of sunny Auckland!

Derrygal

I think it depends on the size of the company. I don't even have a wonderful job - I'm not in management or anything like that. Some companies are just very very picky.

aviva

You can get RN in a 2-year community college, don't have to get a degree.

Mummy in the foothills

Yeah it is, I had to do two classes to get get my CA license, all college based I think doing OB/GYN I spent all of 16 hours in the hospital ward broken down between the ward, nursery, labor and delivery and clinic. I thought it was utter rubbish even though I did enjoy the college classes. In UK when I trained OB/GYN would have been 37.5 hrs a week for and 8 week stint. I wish the UK hadn't got rid of it. It makes nursing unattainable for many people especially now the fees have gone up. I got paid a low wage to do my training.

Mummy in the foothills

You can get LVN in 2 years at CC RN takes 3 same as it used to take in UK Well it does at the local one here. Most CC units are transferable over to a 4 year Uni, if you want the masters RN you'd transfer and finish in Uni, basic RN can be CC only. My friends Daughter is starting this year UC Stanislaus doing her basic RN she did all the pre requisites in CC already, so i think she only has to do 2 more years.
I still don't think they get anywhere near enough clinical hours per class.
Funny thing when I was at the hospital doing my clinical hours on my first day there I was only assigned one patient and her baby to look after, I had her, the baby and the room all sorted and ship shape before the trainer came by to tell me what to do. I though we just got on with it, she thought it was very funny, I ended up helping the the less able student nurses to get themselves sorted out, some of them honestly had no clue and they were on year two of training, one more year and they were working and liable

aviva

Glendale Community College and Pasadena Community College, among others have 2-year RN programs with clinical hours
http://secure.glendale.edu/schedules...SING%20SCIENCE

Mummy in the foothills

Thats is terrible, no way will they be getting enough training. I wonder if it's year round program with no vacation days, just occasional bank holidays. Where I went we were off 3 months for summer and some classes were available in summer but not much.

aviva

There is intense competition to get into these programs, with high entrance standards and long waiting lists. They are rigorous programs with little time off. Basically say goodbye to any life for 2 years!

Grayling

I was a Nurse Tutor under the old UK system and then a University lecturer

I gave up working in education when it became University based......mainly because of conditions of service.

dunroving

In higher education, increasing economic pressure (less money, more layoffs and early retirement, pressure on academics to raise external funds via research grants, etc.) mean that course meetings are now interspersed with language like "more efficient learning experiences", "economically feasible delivery models", and other babble.

In effect what it means is that students will be taught in larger classes over fewer hours, offered fewer optional classes, and any (ahem) "delivery models" like hands-on labs, supervised placement, tutorials, etc., should be cut out or reduced. The nominal time each Honours year dissertation supervisor should spend on each Honours dissertation student is 5 hours at our place - that is not per week, or per month, but over the whole year!

In practice, most academics' conscience won't let them do that so we end up working evenings, weekends, and more often than not, during our entitled annual leave time in order to do a half-decent job. In the meantime, we are bombarded with lengthy spreadsheets, report forms, etc., to document how much work we are doing - but all this record-keeping stops us from getting any work done!

kmthor

in NZ and Australia that piece of paper is the be all and end if you havent got it your a second class citizen.. in the professional field..

sunbather

Well done for trying to get the thread back on track

Lothianlad

I have never lived anywhere else but the UK - I've lived here in Scotland since my birth but have seriously considered living in another country outside of Europe (the Continent is too close and too similar in many ways for someone who wants somewhere "completey different" - climate included).

Unfortunately my "dreams" have never been realised, so far, and probably never will be now for a variety of reasons, but at least I am lucky to be in a good job here at home which I really enjoy.

Reading posts in this Forum from all you nice people who have made it to faraway lands over the seas is a very enjoyable experience, and all your comments are so interesting, and when I read about some of your reasons for wanting to return home to the UK here I begin to feel that maybe the "old country" is not at all as "bad" as so many people who live here and who have never lived anywhere else like to make out it is, and it re-inforces the impression that moaning and whining and thinking negatively when it really isn't justified is very much a characteristic of the British psyche.

It seems as if it's always been that way in our history, and may account for why the British Empire (as was) came into existence in the first place.....brave souls seeking a "better life" far, far away - and in some "paradise" with a more acceptable climate with no sombre grey skies, dreary drizzle and depressingly dank damp days on end.

Even that assessment of the British climate is overplayed at times as the sun really does shine more than you would think here in Britain and a fine spring day with clear blue skies in this country can be quite a joy to behold - and very rarely do we get extremes of any kind of weather and even if we do they are pretty tame compared with those that exist in other countries on a regular basis.

Admittedly we went through a very cold and very snowy spell lasting for about six weeks recently, with a record breaking bitterly cold December and Christmas period (fine if you like a "traditional" White Christmas") but now, in mid January, it is so much milder - temperatures up to about 12C/14C, but of course with heavy rains in many places, more especially in western parts, such as western Scotland but they are used to it being very soggy in places such as Helensburgh and Fort William and up in the western Highlands, but now the snowdrops are beginning to flower in the south, which I saw in a garden way down in the south of England when I was in Wokingham, Berkshire the other day, a garden which was covered by about 50cm of snow a month ago.

I would think that one of the most significant of changes in British society many of you would immediately notice on your return to the UK after years of living abroad would be just how multi cultural it has become over recent years. Seemingly uncontrolled immigration, especially during the period of the last (Labour) Government has very much swelled the ranks of the ethnic population of this country, many of who are heavily concentrated in certain areas, mostly in the metropolitan regions but certainly not exclusively so. Many came as "economic migrants" from so called Third World countries, and a fair number of them are still here even though they have been officially declared as "illegals" - somehow or other so many of them seem to "disappear into the ether" in spite of efforts made by the UK Border Agency - the new UK Government is now hoping to get to grips with this problem - the last (Labour) Government was about as effective as a ladder would be to a carpet layer in this respect, as they were in the economy generally. I just had to get that one in!

Added to all of this are the large numbers of people who have come to the UK from the newly installed EU member countries of Eastern Europe in large numbers - admittedly many have now returned to their home countries as their economies began to improve quite rapidly thanks to EU membership, but many have stayed here.....half the staff in the deli section of our local Tesco store are from Poland.

So I would imagine all this would be about the most noticeable change returning expats would be immediately aware of on their return to the UK....how multicultural we have now become, more especially in certain areas, such as Slough (Berkshire) Luton (Bedfordshire) and Blackburn (Lancashire) - all in non metropiltan areas but now at least 60% "ethnic" in their population make up.