UK to crack down on benefit fraud from abroad (incl US)
Feb 19th 2011, 7:58 am
#46
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Re: UK to crack down on benefit fraud from abroad (incl US)
Yes Dennis Skinner is a good man. I admire George Galloway and I play that video of his contemptuous lecture to the contemptible US Senate Committee Hearing just to cheer myself up. But, he may be a charlatan and I crook, I'm not sure.
I happen to think that a high proportion of politicians are honorable women and men.. Dennis Skinner is a great example.
Boris Johnson and his predecessor as Mayor of London are both admirable politicians. I could think of many others.
I happen to think that a high proportion of politicians are honorable women and men.. Dennis Skinner is a great example.
Boris Johnson and his predecessor as Mayor of London are both admirable politicians. I could think of many others.
Obviously they have lives and careers after they leave politics, what would we expect them to do otherwise, sign on the dole?
Feb 19th 2011, 8:22 am
#47
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Re: UK to crack down on benefit fraud from abroad (incl US)
Yes Dennis Skinner is a good man. I admire George Galloway and I play that video of his contemptuous lecture to the contemptible US Senate Committee Hearing just to cheer myself up. But, he may be a charlatan and I crook, I'm not sure.
I happen to think that a high proportion of politicians are honorable women and men.. Dennis Skinner is a great example.
Boris Johnson and his predecessor as Mayor of London are both admirable politicians. I could think of many others.
I happen to think that a high proportion of politicians are honorable women and men.. Dennis Skinner is a great example.
Boris Johnson and his predecessor as Mayor of London are both admirable politicians. I could think of many others.
I have to agree, it's very easy for the non-thinking to lambast them, but they do a very difficult job that 99.99% of the population would not be capable of. Doubtless some are just in it for the power and influence, but I suspect relatively few.
Obviously they have lives and careers after they leave politics, what would we expect them to do otherwise, sign on the dole?
Obviously they have lives and careers after they leave politics, what would we expect them to do otherwise, sign on the dole?
Feb 19th 2011, 10:05 am
#48
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Re: UK to crack down on benefit fraud from abroad (incl US)
Increasingly Wales is introducing measures that do not apply over the border in England, such as free medical prescriptions for every person resident in Wales. In England that only applies to everyone over the age of 60, and to those in certain categories with special needs, and pregnant women. I believe that Wales, too, is to introduce free univesity education on a par with Scotland, but offhand I may be wrong there.
I'm surprised about those bus pass limitations though. My grandparents live near Ledbury, Herefordshire, England and I know that they make use of their free bus passes, such as on regular trips into Hereford itself - none of the hassle of driving the 15 miles there and back from Ledbury. I know that buses travel between Hereford (England) and Brecon (Wales) and I wonder what happens when people use their passes issued in England, or the other way round? Maybe they get chucked off the bus at the border unless they come up with the relative portion of the fare applicable in either country. It sounds stupid to me.
Feb 19th 2011, 10:13 am
#49
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Re: UK to crack down on benefit fraud from abroad (incl US)
Parochial...yes, maybe in such a physically small country such as this island nation of ours, but that's how things pan out increasingly now that Scotland and Wales have their own national Parliament (Scotland) and Assembly (Wales). Scotland has always had a different legal system to that of England and Wales, but nowadays the Scottish Parliament at Holyrood, here in Edinburgh, has introduced a range of local, domestic packages that do not apply in the other two home countries, such as free university education, for example, and free care home facilities for the elderly.
Increasingly Wales is introducing measures that do not apply over the border in England, such as free medical prescriptions for every person resident in Wales. In England that only applies to everyone over the age of 60, and to those in certain categories with special needs, and pregnant women. I believe that Wales, too, is to introduce free univesity education on a par with Scotland, but offhand I may be wrong there.
I'm surprised about those bus pass limitations though. My grandparents live near Ledbury, Herefordshire, England and I know that they make use of their free bus passes, such as on regular trips into Hereford itself - none of the hassle of driving the 15 miles there and back from Ledbury. I know that buses travel between Hereford (England) and Brecon (Wales) and I wonder what happens when people use their passes issued in England, or the other way round? Maybe they get chucked off the bus at the border unless they come up with the relative portion of the fare applicable in either country. It sounds stupid to me.
Increasingly Wales is introducing measures that do not apply over the border in England, such as free medical prescriptions for every person resident in Wales. In England that only applies to everyone over the age of 60, and to those in certain categories with special needs, and pregnant women. I believe that Wales, too, is to introduce free univesity education on a par with Scotland, but offhand I may be wrong there.
I'm surprised about those bus pass limitations though. My grandparents live near Ledbury, Herefordshire, England and I know that they make use of their free bus passes, such as on regular trips into Hereford itself - none of the hassle of driving the 15 miles there and back from Ledbury. I know that buses travel between Hereford (England) and Brecon (Wales) and I wonder what happens when people use their passes issued in England, or the other way round? Maybe they get chucked off the bus at the border unless they come up with the relative portion of the fare applicable in either country. It sounds stupid to me.
Feb 22nd 2011, 1:23 am
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Re: UK to crack down on benefit fraud from abroad (incl US)
FYI, people typically only comment on posts like you did if they disagree with them or they are patently wrong. In this case, neither applies. And just to keep the record straight, I had 3 replies to me via PM and karma fully supporting what I said.
All politicians are liars - fact, All politicians line there own pockets in any way they can - fact. It's shear blind stupid luck if the common man actually gets any benefits along the way.
What an asinine comment.
All politicians are liars - fact, All politicians line there own pockets in any way they can - fact. It's shear blind stupid luck if the common man actually gets any benefits along the way.
What an asinine comment.
.Oh and getting the support of about 3% of the people reading the thread is not really support! However Labour would have listened to you as the UK suffered from caring too much about the opinion of the few, Blair's wife is probably to blame for that with her background in Human Rights........
