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Old Jun 23rd 2008, 1:02 pm
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Just got back from a week of visiting all our friends and family - which was great apart from the having to leave them all behind.

But the visit has just made us wanna stay in the US forever, even more.

The roads were so busy, I actually forgot people park on the street! EVERYTHING is so expensive 1.36 GBP/litre for Diesel - WTF! Our nanny (usc) could not believe we were spending $120 on one course in a pub restaurant.
An Indian curry (had to do it) for 4 with a round of drinks - $150!

It was great to see all our family and friends, great to visit our old village (Lymm - where we had fish chips peas and curry sauce), but I really can't see us going back - especially after a 5.5hr delay at newark due to the storms yesterday.

nice place to visit, but fook me, wouldn't wanna live there!
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Just got back from a week of visiting all our friends and family - which was great apart from the having to leave them all behind.

But the visit has just made us wanna stay in the US forever, even more.

The roads were so busy, I actually forgot people park on the street! EVERYTHING is so expensive 1.36 GBP/litre for Diesel - WTF! Our nanny (usc) could not believe we were spending $120 on one course in a pub restaurant.
An Indian curry (had to do it) for 4 with a round of drinks - $150!

It was great to see all our family and friends, great to visit our old village (Lymm - where we had fish chips peas and curry sauce), but I really can't see us going back - especially after a 5.5hr delay at newark due to the storms yesterday.

nice place to visit, but fook me, wouldn't wanna live there!
But you didnt pay 120 dollars did you? you paid in pounds, thats just the same as people coming to the US and believing its cheap cos they are thinking in pounds, the comparison does not work you were there as a visitor if you lived there you would not be thinking in dollars. Glad you had a good time.
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Originally Posted by paul1968mcr
Just got back from a week of visiting all our friends and family - which was great apart from the having to leave them all behind.

But the visit has just made us wanna stay in the US forever, even more.

The roads were so busy, I actually forgot people park on the street! EVERYTHING is so expensive 1.36 GBP/litre for Diesel - WTF! Our nanny (usc) could not believe we were spending $120 on one course in a pub restaurant.
An Indian curry (had to do it) for 4 with a round of drinks - $150!

It was great to see all our family and friends, great to visit our old village (Lymm - where we had fish chips peas and curry sauce), but I really can't see us going back - especially after a 5.5hr delay at newark due to the storms yesterday.

nice place to visit, but fook me, wouldn't wanna live there!
i said the same thing last time i visited, i expressed that the UK was not the place that people that have been in the US for 2 or more years left behind.... Its really gone to the dogs and quick....

I got slammed.

So im pleased you felt the same way
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Originally Posted by paul1968mcr
I actually forgot people park on the street!
You've been in Indiana a bit too long
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Its really gone to the dogs and quick....

I got slammed.
perhaps you got "slammed" for making blanket statements like the one above, which are always going to get some people's backs up.

I was last in the UK in six months ago and didn't think the UK had noticeably "gobe to the dogs". Yes things are often more expensive over there (the dollar in the toilet isn't helping) but we found a fair few things to be actually cheaper.
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perhaps you got "slammed" for making blanket statements like the one above, which are always going to get some people's backs up.

I was last in the UK in six months ago and didn't think the UK had noticeably "gobe to the dogs". Yes things are often more expensive over there (the dollar in the toilet isn't helping) but we found a fair few things to be actually cheaper.
i wasnt talking about how much things cost.

I was talking congestion, attitude, non-english speaking immigrants, teens with the 'you cant touch me' attitude and the recent increase in crime.....especially knife crime.

As i said the last time, its my opinion...... like it, dont like it, its your choice
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Originally Posted by basementwaj
i said the same thing last time i visited, i expressed that the UK was not the place that people that have been in the US for 2 or more years left behind.... Its really gone to the dogs and quick....

I got slammed.

So im pleased you felt the same way
Imagine how depressing it can be for those of us that came over in 1981.
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Originally Posted by basementwaj
i wasnt talking about how much things cost.
OK, no you weren't, but that seemed to be the OP's main complaint.

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I was talking and the recent increase in crime.....especially knife crime.
the public perception is that knife crime is out of control, yet this is not borne out by the statistics.

According to the British Crime Survey, knife-enabled crime (any crime involving a knife) over the past decade has remained stable at around 6-7% of all crime, comprising 30% of all homicides.

In fact, the most recent crime survey by the Metropolitan police showed that knife crime has actually dropped by 15.7% over the past two years, from 12,122 to 10,220 incidents.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/ma...d=networkfront

The only thing about knife crime which has really increased recently has been hysterical press coverage of it.
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But you didnt pay 120 dollars did you? you paid in pounds, thats just the same as people coming to the US and believing its cheap cos they are thinking in pounds, the comparison does not work you were there as a visitor if you lived there you would not be thinking in dollars. Glad you had a good time.
Taking into account the exchange rate

I got a job in the USA that pays the same as my old job in the UK, so the amount that goes into my account each month is the same.

when I am in the UK, the amount leaving my account is more then when I am in the USA.
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Another interesting point - In our week in Altrincham, we only saw 1 Police car (apart from the airport).

Our nanny was really suprised at how little Police presence there was, considering the 5 "scrotes" who were shouting and swearing (in their lovely manc gangster drawl) in Altrincham town centre last saturday afternoon hangin' round the betting shop thats opened.
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Originally Posted by paul1968mcr
Another interesting point - In our week in Altrincham, we only saw 1 Police car (apart from the airport).

Our nanny was really suprised at how little Police presence there was, considering the 5 "scrotes" who were shouting and swearing (in their lovely manc gangster drawl) in Altrincham town centre last saturday afternoon hangin' round the betting shop thats opened.
they are busy filling out paper work for 3 hours for the dog poop fines they hand out
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Originally Posted by Bradford Lass
But you didnt pay 120 dollars did you? you paid in pounds, thats just the same as people coming to the US and believing its cheap cos they are thinking in pounds, the comparison does not work you were there as a visitor if you lived there you would not be thinking in dollars. Glad you had a good time.
BradfordLass, they recently did a comparison among top metropolitan cities in the world AND they ranked London as number 1 for the cost of living and eating out. They took into account the exchange rate as well. They even compared it to New York and Tokyo which are notorious for being expensive places to eat out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6990689.stm
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they are busy filling out paper work for 3 hours for the dog poop fines they hand out
LMAO - As I was leaving my mums to go to the airport, I trod in a cat turd and got it all over the floor of the hire car. My mum wiped it out using neat pine fresh disinfectant - don't know what stunk worse!!
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Originally Posted by basementwaj
i wasnt talking about how much things cost.

I was talking congestion, attitude, non-english speaking immigrants, teens with the 'you cant touch me' attitude and the recent increase in crime.....especially knife crime.
I'm in agreement mate, I can't wait to get out of Blighty. Sure the US isn't perfect either, but at least in the US there's a less tolerant attitude towards the toerags from the authorities.
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I'm in agreement mate, I can't wait to get out of Blighty. Sure the US isn't perfect either, but at least in the US there's a less tolerant attitude towards the toerags from the authorities.
absolutely, i think thats the worst part... the shitty kids and toerags now get away with loads.....

i know of a story (cant find the link) of a 17 year old kid who tried to rob a store with a baseball bat (in UK). the 2 owners overpowered him and locked him in the store room, called the police.

The rozzers took 3 hours to arrive and when they spoke with the 17YO, he claimed he was kidnapped and held against his will, and infringement of his human rights.

The police then arrested the shop owners and dusted the kid off and drove him home!

This went to court, and the judge laughed at the police and threw the case out.

At least in the US you can shoot people that try to rob you! lol
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