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Old Jul 15th 2020, 3:31 pm
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Hello, Im looking for some advice about the ToR1 application to move household goods to the UK.
I am a UK citizen returning after 15+ years. My spouse is a US citizen and we are applying for a spouse visa.
I am applying for the ToR1. One of the questions is will anyone be accompanying me back to the UK. When I add my spouse I am then required to provide proof of their visa.
I understand that once the visa is approved we will have to enter the UK within 30 days. The shipping company will not take our possessions until the ToR1 is approved. We cannot apply for the ToR1 until the visa is issued.
The ToR1 may take over 30 days to be issued, the moving company cannot move with less than a months notice.
Has anyone any experience of moving back to the UK with a foreign spouse and how to navigate to ToR1 application,
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Old Jul 15th 2020, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by bonsai99 View Post
Hello, Im looking for some advice about the ToR1 application to move household goods to the UK.
I am a UK citizen returning after 15+ years. My spouse is a US citizen and we are applying for a spouse visa.
I am applying for the ToR1. One of the questions is will anyone be accompanying me back to the UK. When I add my spouse I am then required to provide proof of their visa.
I understand that once the visa is approved we will have to enter the UK within 30 days. The shipping company will not take our possessions until the ToR1 is approved. We cannot apply for the ToR1 until the visa is issued.
The ToR1 may take over 30 days to be issued, the moving company cannot move with less than a months notice. ....
[1] Only the visa applicant has to abide by that window
[2] There is nothing to stop the visa applicant leaving the UK again, once they have entered, though the sponsor, in your case "you", must enter the UK with the visa holder, or before them.
[3] You can specify a future date of travel, so implicit in the visa application process is the opportunity to give yourself a substantially longer window than 30 days to pack and ship your household chattels, though obviously the covd-19 pandemic has messed this process up considerably.

All that said. I am a little surpised that the mover/ shipping company won't take your things and hold them in storage until the ToR is approved and supplied to them because "storage" is a service commonly provided by movers, either at the point of shipment, or inward, prior to delivery to a final address. Therefore I believe that the likely solution to your problem is to be have a conversation with the moving company you choose primarily about "storage services", not about international shipping, on the basis that "you need to move out because you have sold your home, or the lease has ended, but you don't yet have a home to move to", which is a very common situation.

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Old Jul 15th 2020, 9:09 pm
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Agree with Pulaski there. My things were in packed up, ready to ship, and put in storage eventually for three years before I gave the nod to ship them and the ToR1 was done, only in my name and that was 10 months after I moved to the UK. My Wife and Son followed on 12 months later after getting the visa sorted.
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Old Jul 16th 2020, 12:07 pm
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I'm in the process too. My husband is awaiting biometrics, but application has been submitted.
i am uk citizen but never updated my NI card. I sent for our ToR, put it in his name as our utility bills are mostly in his name, but in the bos where you can add why you are moving i put my name, dob, and that we are staying with my Mum. I just got a refusal but because they need letter from mum saying we can stay and proof its her house. Same as for visa application. I also sent my husbands visa application receipt.
we are leaving sept 2nd, hoping for biometric appointment for premium settlement before we go otherwise he will fly back.
we are using upack we ship. Their website has everthing you need to know about shipping, customs etc.
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Old Jul 16th 2020, 3:24 pm
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This has been very helpful, thank you all for your assistance.
I have had a 'practice run' with the Tor-1. The form requires that I send either a tenancy agreement or utility bills from my US address. Im assuming this is to provide proof that I have lived here for over a year. I have lived in the same rental property for 15 years but have not had a tenancy agreement or any bills in my name. Has anyone dealt with this scenario and knows of alternative documentation which can be provided? I have bank & credit card statements, medical bills, renters & car insurance policies and personal mail all sent to my address.
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Old Jul 29th 2020, 2:10 pm
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I’m in the process of tor application I am a widow moving back in September going to live with my sister until my house sells in Canada can you please advise I’m a uk citizenship born there been away for 35 years don’t know my NI number . Appreciate
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Hello, I'm not exactly qualified on this subject as this is the first time shipping, but I do believe the form asked for the NI number only if you had one. The folks at HMRC emailed right back when they needed proof of my Mum's address, they seemed very helpful and got back to me right away. Sure they'd ask you for it if they really needed it. Good luck.
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I’m in the process of tor application I am a widow moving back in September going to live with my sister until my house sells in Canada can you please advise I’m a uk citizenship born there been away for 35 years don’t know my NI number . Appreciate
Have you been making voluntary NI contributions to get a full UK pension? If so, it should be on that paperwork.

If not, then follow the instructions on this link - https://www.gov.uk/lost-national-insurance-number

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