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niksha Sep 2nd 2010 1:31 am

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So what do you guys think of excerpts from Tony Blair's new book?? I think it is brilliant and shows what kind of person Gordon brown was/is-not that i ever liked him or thought higly of him. Only thing i didnt really care for was when Blair writes that he would have still gone to iraq after all that has happened but o well..... Just like Billy Bob, Blair has the looks, charisma and charm that many a politician would die for.

Derrygal Sep 2nd 2010 1:51 am

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Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8820078)
So what do you guys think of excerpts from Tony Blair's new book?? I think it is brilliant and shows what kind of person Gordon brown was/is-not that i ever liked him or thought higly of him. Only thing i didnt really care for was when Blair writes that he would have still gone to iraq after all that has happened but o well..... Just like Billy Bob, Blair has the looks, charisma and charm that many a politician would die for.

I'm not sure I will buy the book - may get it from my local library when it becomes available. I used to like Tony Blair - until he sided with Bush and invaded Iraq - and just like Bush - will never admit it was a mistake. One thing that surprised me is when he (Blair) admitted to fairly heavy drinking the last year or so he was in office.

Jerseygirl Sep 2nd 2010 2:06 am

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Originally Posted by Derrygal (Post 8820101)
I'm not sure I will buy the book - may get it from my local library when it becomes available. I used to like Tony Blair - until he sided with Bush and invaded Iraq - and just like Bush - will never admit it was a mistake. One thing that surprised me is when he (Blair) admitted to fairly heavy drinking the last year or so he was in office.

I won't be buying his book. I've never liked Smarmy Blair or his horrid wife.

expatasia Sep 2nd 2010 2:20 am

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Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8820078)
Only thing i didnt really care for was when Blair writes that he would have still gone to iraq after all that has happened

He has to say that surely. Had enough chances to opt-out and blew it.

Anybody got direct links to the excerpts? I couldn't be bothered earlier.

Jerseygirl Sep 2nd 2010 2:25 am

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Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8820128)
He has to say that surely. Had enough chances to opt-out and blew it.

Anybody got direct links to the excerpts? I couldn't be bothered earlier.

It's in all the UK press and TV news websites.

expatasia Sep 2nd 2010 2:28 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 8820138)
It's in all the UK press and TV news websites.

Ta. Just watching this now:



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ht/8960486.stm

(It didn't make it for tech reasons onto Newsnight the other day)

chartreuse Sep 2nd 2010 2:33 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 8820116)
I won't be buying his book. I've never liked Smarmy Blair or his horrid wife.

I've met them both, a couple of times. Very personable, but slightly creepy, if you know what I mean...

ETA: Might the Trailer Park be a better place for this one?

Jerseygirl Sep 2nd 2010 2:41 am

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Originally Posted by chartreuse (Post 8820147)
I've met them both, a couple of times. Very personable, but slightly creepy, if you know what I mean...

ETA: Might the Trailer Park be a better place for this one?

ETA?

chartreuse Sep 2nd 2010 2:46 am

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 8820154)
ETA?

Edited To Add. Can't help myself with the TLAs, sorry.:o

GeoffM Sep 2nd 2010 8:05 am

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Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8820078)
shows what kind of person Gordon brown was/is-not

It might show's TB's opinion of GB - not what GB necessarily is.


Originally Posted by chartreuse (Post 8820160)
Edited To Add. Can't help myself with the TLAs, sorry.:o

All these TLAs are OTT IMHO.

Brighten up your day by going to your local bookshop and moving TB's book to the Crime section. (not original, sorry)

another bloody yank Sep 2nd 2010 12:14 pm

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His thoughts on America, Americans, and the three most recent Presidents:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/0859920...9ueWJsYWlyb25j


Interestingly, he fails to mention the bathroom stall door gap situation.

katybluewater Sep 2nd 2010 1:35 pm

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Watched his interview on BBC2 with Andrew Marr last night - he is still as smarmy and evasive as ever - cant stand the man! Definitely wont be buying his book.

Hubcaps Sep 2nd 2010 2:18 pm

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I wouldn't urinate on him if he was on fire pretty much sums up my thoughts of the man.

katybluewater Sep 2nd 2010 2:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Hubcaps (Post 8821246)
I wouldn't urinate on him if he was on fire pretty much sums up my thoughts of the man.

:rofl:

cranston Sep 2nd 2010 3:56 pm

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Whilst I am no fan of his policies, I will probably buy the audio-book.

Lothianlad Sep 2nd 2010 7:50 pm

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Tony B*liar has the bloody gall to describe The Queen as "haughty" following the death of Diana and all that happened at that time. What with the way B*liar and his ghastly openly anti Royalist wife and his truly obnoxious press secretary (or whatever he called himself) master of spin Alistair Campbell behaved towards her and her family what other kind of reaction would he have expected from the gracious lady at Buck House. He is about the most infamous opportunist ever to darken the door of No 10 Downing Street, now rolling in so much brass that he is going round the world buying mansions hand over fist. The right place for this odiously mendacious geezer is in the dock at the International Courts of Justice in Den Haag (The Hague).

Jerseygirl Sep 2nd 2010 7:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Lothianlad (Post 8821887)
Tony B*liar has the bloody gall to describe The Queen as "haughty" following the death of Diana and all that happened at that time. What with the way B*liar and his ghastly openly anti Royalist wife and his truly obnoxious press secretary (or whatever he called himself) master of spin Alistair Campbell behaved towards her and her family what other kind of reaction would he have expected from the gracious lady at Buck House. He is about the most infamous opportunist ever to darken the door of No 10 Downing Street, now rolling in so much brass that he is going round the world buying mansions hand over fist. The right place for this odiously mendacious geezer is in the dock at the International Courts of Justice in Den Haag (The Hague).

I take it you won't be buying his book then? :lol:

Master_Bulldog Sep 2nd 2010 9:10 pm

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From my point of view I liked Toni Blair and his "New Labour". He was doing a superb job until he got himself involved in the whole Iraq/Afghanistan situation.

If nothing else he revolutionized social care.

So many important government white and green papers were released on child care under the last Labour government. They passed laws that improved residential child care a great deal whilst also making it a lot safer, although not water tight.

Sally Redux Sep 2nd 2010 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Master_Bulldog (Post 8822029)
From my point of view I liked Toni Blair and his "New Labour". He was doing a superb job until he got himself involved in the whole Iraq/Afghanistan situation.

If nothing else he revolutionized social care.

So many important government white and green papers were released on child care under the last Labour government. They passed laws that improved residential child care a great deal whilst also making it a lot safer, although not water tight.

I agree with that.

GeoffM Sep 2nd 2010 9:37 pm

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Apparently now the fastest selling autobiography in UK history. The mind boggles.

Derrygal Sep 3rd 2010 1:20 am

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In case anyone is interested - Tony Blair will be interviewed by Christiane Amanpour this coming Sunday morning on "This Week" on ABC. I will probably watch it (out of curiosity).

niksha Sep 3rd 2010 1:39 am

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Looks like i am definitely in the minority here in liking Mr. Blair. i guess -whatever tickles one's fancy!!!

nettlebed Sep 3rd 2010 3:17 am

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Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8822485)
Looks like i am definitely in the minority here in liking Mr. Blair. i guess -whatever tickles one's fancy!!!

I feel that be betrayed the Socialist ideal right from the very beginning. John Smith would have been a great leader, like Michael Foot. Two of the best Labour prime ministers the UK never had...

Tarkak9 Sep 3rd 2010 3:47 am

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Originally Posted by cranston (Post 8821504)
Whilst I am no fan of his policies, I will probably buy the audio-book.

Sure beats counting sheep.
GW's edition probably had the man in the yellow hat reading it.

(from CNN)... Blair writes that Bush was "very smart" - :blink: :ohmy:
while having "immense simplicity in how he saw the world." - that's because he didn't understand it.
Former U.S. President George W. Bush was a "true idealist" - (add delusion extrodinairre imo)
who displayed "genuine integrity and political courage,".... insertion of author's discretion for embellishment... and page stuffer.

I can't be bothered to see if Blair was being back-handed...

Jaxbar Sep 3rd 2010 4:16 am

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Originally Posted by nettlebed (Post 8822584)
I feel that be betrayed the Socialist ideal right from the very beginning. John Smith would have been a great leader, like Michael Foot. Two of the best Labour prime ministers the UK never had...

But un-electible although of course Smith never got the opportunity to try.

nettlebed Sep 3rd 2010 4:23 am

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Originally Posted by Bradford Lass (Post 8822668)
But un-electible although of course Smith never got the opportunity to try.

Yep, almost certainly true that neither was electable, but I admired both for their values and apparent honesty. Also, Smith for his compassion and touch, and Foot for his intellect. It's always easy to romanticize people who never got the chance to let down one's expectations. Sigh.

chartreuse Sep 3rd 2010 4:27 am

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Originally Posted by nettlebed (Post 8822679)
It's always easy to romanticize people who never got the chance to let down one's expectations. Sigh.

The Fourecksians, in Pratchett's The Last Continent, grasped this early on. That's why they imprisoned their politicians as soon as they were elected.

Macca67 Sep 3rd 2010 1:07 pm

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I'll read it after going through Mandelson's memoirs but it'll be interesting to see how much candour both present. At least Blair is doing the decent thing and donating the profits from his tome to charity - though probably not the squillions he got as an advance.

lansbury Sep 3rd 2010 3:37 pm

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Originally Posted by another bloody yank (Post 8820992)
Interestingly, he fails to mention the bathroom stall door gap situation.

Which only goes to show how people in power have very little understanding of the true issues facing the common man (or woman)

robin1234 Sep 3rd 2010 4:06 pm

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Originally Posted by nettlebed (Post 8822584)
I feel that be betrayed the Socialist ideal right from the very beginning. John Smith would have been a great leader, like Michael Foot. Two of the best Labour prime ministers the UK never had...

Foot was a good man. Apparently he and Enoch Powell were good friends over many years, although at either end of the political spectrum. They were both men of principle unlike your average party leader.

Hubcaps Sep 3rd 2010 4:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Macca67 (Post 8823427)
I'll read it after going through Mandelson's memoirs but it'll be interesting to see how much candour both present. At least Blair is doing the decent thing and donating the profits from his tome to charity - though probably not the squillions he got as an advance.

The fact he's giving the profits to the Royal British Legion is causing all kinds of kerfuffle in the UK.

BTW Cyril Smith died today.

Lothianlad Sep 3rd 2010 7:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 8821895)
I take it you won't be buying his book then? :lol:

Well, actually - yes. I have bought it, today - I am spending this weekend in Herefordshire and I saw it on sale at the Tesco store in Ledbury earlier this evening - at half price £12.50. I truly don't think I would have bought it had it not been marked down 50% from its standard price of £25.00 and, more importantly and definitely the main reason, all sale proceeds of the book are being donated to a very worthy, and in this case the most appropriate, cause - the Royal British Legion. I suppose that was the best way B*liar reckoned he could go some way to salve his conscience bearing in mind his (joint) action which sent hundreds of our brave and duty bound lads to their deaths in a $hitty desert hellhole.

Many of us had a very good idea anyway of what went on behind the scenes between this man and that other political disaster area - Gordon Brown, a man I am ashamed to call a fellow Scot, one who behaved in a way no self respecting Scot normally does - spending money like there was no tomorrow - OUR public money - OUR hard earned taxes, frequently paid to the non deserving or on crazy "politically correct" schemes which mostly failed anyway - and in the process amassing a huge national deficit which will probably take until all present day newborns become eligible to draw their state pensions, which looks set to be raised to 72 in a few years' time according to the Coalition Government.

dooper Sep 4th 2010 3:15 pm

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I wont be buying it but i have obtained it via an online copy (torrent).

I'll skim read it.

Blair isnt a Socialist though he is quite happy to preach Socialism.

What he wants is Socialism for everyone else but he wants the best for himself and his family.

He knows nothing of the real lives of ordinary people in Great Britain.

I expct he is suffering from the psychological traumas brought about by the realisation that he has caused the deaths and injuries of thousands by kowtowing to Bush and his phoney war.

Master_Bulldog Sep 4th 2010 3:43 pm

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Originally Posted by dooper (Post 8826040)
I wont be buying it but i have obtained it via an online copy (torrent).

I'll skim read it.

Blair isnt a Socialist though he is quite happy to preach Socialism.

What he wants is Socialism for everyone else but he wants the best for himself and his family.

He knows nothing of the real lives of ordinary people in Great Britain.

I expct he is suffering from the psychological traumas brought about by the realisation that he has caused the deaths and injuries of thousands by kowtowing to Bush and his phoney war.

Tony Blair was pelted with eggs and flour today by anti war protestors. Blair was due to sign copies of his new book.

Captain Cheesestick Sep 4th 2010 9:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Hubcaps (Post 8821246)
I wouldn't urinate on him if he was on fire pretty much sums up my thoughts of the man.

Wouldn't you just wait until he's stopped burning and then piss on him? Maybe even take a dump?

nettlebed Sep 5th 2010 2:27 am

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Originally Posted by Herpes Simplex (Post 8826514)
Wouldn't you just wait until he's stopped burning and then piss on him? Maybe even take a dump?

However much people dislike Blair (and I do, fervently) nobody has yet, to my knowledge, written a song as virulent as "Tramp The Dirt Down," Costello's song about Thatcher:



In terms of responsibility for war deaths, though, Blair is way ahead of Thatcher: however posterity judges the rest of his public life, Blair should always be remembered as somebody who deliberately lied to start a war that has caused and will cause probably a million or more deaths. As far as I am concerned he is a war criminal and should be in front the court in The Hague.

MsElui Sep 5th 2010 4:16 am

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i wouldnt buy it just in case a single penny found its way back into the blair witches coffers. I cannot abide her and would do zero to supply her with any kind of funding.

Lothianlad Sep 5th 2010 1:53 pm

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Bugger Blair.......the journalist Quentin Letts (who lives close to my grandparents in Herefordshire here) recently had a book published with the title "50 people who Buggered up Britain". High up on the list was Tony B'liar, so positively no surprise there.

Ignore the man B'liar and let's go sailing by him and his ilk.......sailing the waters surrounding this Blair'n'Brown buggered up Island of ours.....via North Utsire, South Utsire, Viking, German Bight, Tyne, Dogger, Humber, Thames, Dover, Wight, Portland, Plymouth, Bailey, Biscay, Fortes, Lundy, Irish Sea, Rockall.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFdas...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNaRB...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWl0Q...eature=related

Sailing By is broadcast every early morning c 00:45hrs prior to the BBC Radio 4UK sea areas Shipping Forecast and is one of the longest running signature tunes on BBC radio.

nettlebed Sep 6th 2010 8:08 pm

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He's canceled the London signing:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11197376

chartreuse Sep 6th 2010 8:24 pm

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Originally Posted by nettlebed (Post 8830309)
He's canceled the London signing:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11197376


Yeah, but that German bird is well known as being not right in the head.

I think he won that particular skirmish.


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