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Old Aug 28th 2012, 7:19 pm
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Hi, i had a student visa "Tier 4" which is not expired yet, 6 months ago i had an emergency and told my school that i'm leaving the uk, and i have been told that they will contact the home office and let them know that i cancelled my course which is something i was ok with, now i solved my problem back home and wanna go back to study in the uk, i know that my current visa is suspended since the school had reported me to the home office but my question is can i go to the uk using the same visa and then try to apply for another tier 4 once i'm in the uk? will my current Tier 4 allow me to get in the uk or will they stop me at the airport?? it won't expire before november! hopefully someone with experience will be able to answer my question, thank you.
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Hi, i had a student visa "Tier 4" which is not expired yet, 6 months ago i had an emergency and told my school that i'm leaving the uk, and i have been told that they will contact the home office and let them know that i cancelled my course which is something i was ok with, now i solved my problem back home and wanna go back to study in the uk, i know that my current visa is suspended since the school had reported me to the home office but my question is can i go to the uk using the same visa and then try to apply for another tier 4 once i'm in the uk? will my current Tier 4 allow me to get in the uk or will they stop me at the airport?? it won't expire before november! hopefully someone with experience will be able to answer my question, thank you.
Have you tried contacting the school's international office? Presumably they are trained to deal with this sort of situation ... it seems such a specialist question that you probably need professional advice before you jump on a plane. Regardless of what the passport says about an expiry date, any questions you are asked by Border Control could lead to problems.
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Old Aug 28th 2012, 9:42 pm
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Thank you for replying, i did contacted the school and they said my course has been cancelled and they weren't really helpful, but the thing is all they care to see at the airport is valid visa and i have a 6 month old letter of confirmation from the school, what else would they ask for ?
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Thank you for replying, i did contacted the school and they said my course has been cancelled and they weren't really helpful, but the thing is all they care to see at the airport is valid visa and i have a 6 month old letter of confirmation from the school, what else would they ask for ?
If you were to use your Tier 4 visa you would not be entering the UK legally since your course has been cancelled and therefore your visa is no longer applicable.

Tier 4 visas are issued to those students who have an offer from an eligible institution for a recognised course PRIOR to them entering the UK. This is not the case with you. You have no course to go to.

Therefore you have no eligible visa to enter the UK.

What are you intending to do? You are not studying and you cannot work.

You should apply for another course and another Tier 4 visa.

Since the school has informed you that it intended to inform the Home Office that you had cancelled your course you run the risk of being stopped at the border.

The UK has grown tired of 'students' who enter the country, don't complete their courses and somehow never return home.
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My girl is british and we are gonna get married when i get there, and it's better if we are together while going through the marriage process. i don't really care for the course, but i just wanna use the actual visa to get there since i have already paid the course fees.
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So you should be looking at the fiance/marriage visa route.
It might be tempting to try and 'finesse' a passport stamp that you currently have but it's not without its risk to your future ease of entry/exit from the country.

You'll do what you decide to do. I would suggest you stop thinking with your second brain and evaluate your long term situation properly.
Not least because it's actions like this that hold up the line for people who are following the appropriate route to entry.
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Originally Posted by stillwaitingstill
My girl is british and we are gonna get married when i get there, and it's better if we are together while going through the marriage process. i don't really care for the course, but i just wanna use the actual visa to get there since i have already paid the course fees.
How do you think you will get married in the UK having entered the country illegally? Most likely scenario is you will be deported once checks are made as part of the marriage process and you will struggle to reenter the country at a later date.
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I'm not entering illegally, i have a valid visa, and if the school decided to cancel my course because i had an emergency situation then that's their problem, i didn't receive an email or notice from the home office nor the school stating that i'm not eligible to re-enter the country using the current visa that i have, so i will just let them know that i had an emergency. thank you for your replies
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I'm not entering illegally, i have a valid visa, and if the school decided to cancel my course because i had an emergency situation then that's their problem, i didn't receive an email or notice from the home office nor the school stating that i'm not eligible to re-enter the country using the current visa that i have, so i will just let them know that i had an emergency. thank you for your replies
Come back and let us know how that goes for you.
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Originally Posted by stillwaitingstill
I'm not entering illegally, i have a valid visa, and if the school decided to cancel my course because i had an emergency situation then that's their problem, i didn't receive an email or notice from the home office nor the school stating that i'm not eligible to re-enter the country using the current visa that i have, so i will just let them know that i had an emergency. thank you for your replies
If the course which your visa is tied to no longer exists, it may well be that you do not have a valid visa.
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Originally Posted by stillwaitingstill
Hi, i had a student visa "Tier 4" which is not expired yet, 6 months ago i had an emergency and told my school that i'm leaving the uk, and i have been told that they will contact the home office and let them know that i cancelled my course which is something i was ok with, now i solved my problem back home and wanna go back to study in the uk, i know that my current visa is suspended since the school had reported me to the home office but my question is can i go to the uk using the same visa and then try to apply for another tier 4 once i'm in the uk? will my current Tier 4 allow me to get in the uk or will they stop me at the airport?? it won't expire before november! hopefully someone with experience will be able to answer my question, thank you.
Seems you did cancel it. Ergo the course place that underpins the validity of the visa is no longer there. Ergo the visa is not valid if it needs to have a course place to go with it?
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Seems you did cancel it. Ergo the course place that underpins the validity of the visa is no longer there. Ergo the visa is not valid if it needs to have a course place to go with it?
The chances of not getting stopped at immigration are small - given that the last entry to UK was over 6 months ago and it is a student visa it will flag up to the border control officer pretty quickly. OP is wasting the cost of a flight in my view, and risking an unpleasant grilling by UK Border force...

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Originally Posted by stillwaitingstill
My girl is british and we are gonna get married when i get there, and it's better if we are together while going through the marriage process. i don't really care for the course, but i just wanna use the actual visa to get there since i have already paid the course fees.
The Tier 4 visa, even if still applicable, does not allow you to enter the UK to get married.

For that you need a marriage visa

In addition if you intend to remain in the UK after marriage there are immigration/financial requirements to fulfill.
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Oh boy, let me get the beer and popcorn, I have a feeling this one will run and run.

[And I think that should have said "first brain"]
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Hmmmmm:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-Agency.html
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