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Old Sep 12th 2009 | 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by meph
I appreciate all the advice so far in this thread. And it seems that I am not alone in wanting to return to the UK. The emotional content of family is the driver for me, in which there are a couple of factors which I haven’t mentioned.

I have two older daughter (both in their early 20’s now) who have babies of their own; I am unable to reconcile the thought of only seeing my eldest children and my granddaughters (both under a year old) once a year. I had been hanging onto a pipe dream in which they move out here to the US to live with us but in reality it’s just not going to happen.

My father is just getting old, I talk to him every week on the phone, I haven’t seen him in over a year, It sometimes (usually) feels like I’m waiting for something bad to happen to him.

Then there’s the rest of the stuff that I have struggled with; Workers rights, Healthcare, Politics, Money, Education, Bread (uneatable), TV, the list is kinnda lengthy.

It’s been a great 4 years, a truly excellent experience for us all. There are things here in America that are just fantastic and it can be a superb place to be, but if your hearts not in it and not a day goes past where you don’t miss your family, friends or a decent crusty meat pie then it’s probably time to bite the bullet and fix it.

Thanks for the link to the Green card re-entry permit extension, I will read that in depth, you never know….
I couldn't agree with you more, that's why we, although OH is American, are going back next May. Daughter went back two years ago to go to Uni and mum is over there not getting any younger. All those other things, not as important like you say healthcare, politics, bread (disgusting), but still add up. My heart, after nearly 5 years, is definitely not here anymore and would go back tomorrow given the chance. Neither of us will have jobs when we go, but I am fortunate in that I shouldn't have a problem getting one once there. Just go for it, things always work out eventually!
 
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Originally Posted by ezzie
What a sensible post Sherro. Dying to know what it was about the UK that had you speeding back to Oz.Did you have kids there? And what was it that you missed about Oz?

Hey Ezzie,

Well there was the realisation that although I had minor complaints, I had well and truly set up shop in Australia, I mean i was there for 9 years, I had friends, made roots, I loved the long hot summers and I loved the feeling of coming back to Europe for holidays.

When I came back to the UK and tried to tell myself it was for good, I never really believed it, friends i had grown up with in blighty had changed so much, I had changed too, we had nothing in common. I realised at the end of the day, going back to the UK once every couple of years was the best possible outcome and if i had to choose where i would spend 340 days a year, it was Australia over the UK. My choice, and the other 26 days would be Europe and Asia.

I read a book called The Power of now, by Eckhart Tolle and a big realisation of the fact my mind was controlling me, and making me miserable and not able to live in the moment is a changing point for me too. Learning to stop worrying about the past and constantly looking round the corner and living in the moment made things so much easier.

Its funny though, I have no regrets at all for the money it cost me to work that out. I was bored and unsettled, and now back in Melbourne blessed and much happier. Still that my own story, there are plenty who have gone back to the UK after many years away and fallen in love with England again.

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Old Oct 21st 2009 | 2:55 am
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Progress has been unbelievably slow, I had one job lead which eventually fell through (40% pay cut….) and one chat with an agency (Michael Page).

To make matters even worse I’m now well and truly upside down with my mortgage in the USA, the county re-assessed my property value and devalued my property by a whopping $200,000 (everyone around here is much the same boat), shame I sunk so much of our life savings into it. To return to the UK now would ensure that I am well and truly broke……….

After much discussion, my wife has semi-persuaded me to stick it out here for another year or so, I appreciate all of the advice given by all those who have posted here, it has provided me with a great deal to think about.


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Hopefully prices will rebound a bit before you finally make a move at least so you can take a bit back eh!
Our house has fallen by half, but we've been here so long we'd still make a profit, but the more we take back the better.
 
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Originally Posted by meph
Progress has been unbelievably slow, I had one job lead which eventually fell through (40% pay cut….) and one chat with an agency (Michael Page).

To make matters even worse I’m now well and truly upside down with my mortgage in the USA, the county re-assessed my property value and devalued my property by a whopping $200,000 (everyone around here is much the same boat), shame I sunk so much of our life savings into it. To return to the UK now would ensure that I am well and truly broke……….

After much discussion, my wife has semi-persuaded me to stick it out here for another year or so, I appreciate all of the advice given by all those who have posted here, it has provided me with a great deal to think about.


many thanks.
Can you rent your property until such time prices start to bounce back?
 
Old Oct 21st 2009 | 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by meph
Progress has been unbelievably slow, I had one job lead which eventually fell through (40% pay cut….) and one chat with an agency (Michael Page).

To make matters even worse I’m now well and truly upside down with my mortgage in the USA, the county re-assessed my property value and devalued my property by a whopping $200,000 (everyone around here is much the same boat), shame I sunk so much of our life savings into it. To return to the UK now would ensure that I am well and truly broke……….

After much discussion, my wife has semi-persuaded me to stick it out here for another year or so, I appreciate all of the advice given by all those who have posted here, it has provided me with a great deal to think about.


many thanks.
Where abouts are you? I also have a house to sell in SC. It sucks. I only bought it 2 years ago and stand to lose everything I put into it. But as I can't afford my present mortgage without making drastic changes, getting a full time job, and then still worrying about any future medical costs, even with health insurance, you still pay as you well know. Plus I am single so no help from anyone. I can't bear the thought of having to stay here another year or more in that situation, putting my life on hold. Life is too short, time is precious. I would rather be broke surrounded by my own people in my own country than in a foreign one with strangers. Did think about renting, again very risky, not easy, stressful, no guarantee...........nope.
 
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Where abouts are you? I also have a house to sell in SC. It sucks. I only bought it 2 years ago and stand to lose everything I put into it. But as I can't afford my present mortgage without making drastic changes, getting a full time job, and then still worrying about any future medical costs, even with health insurance, you still pay as you well know. Plus I am single so no help from anyone. I can't bear the thought of having to stay here another year or more in that situation, putting my life on hold. Life is too short, time is precious. I would rather be broke surrounded by my own people in my own country than in a foreign one with strangers. Did think about renting, again very risky, not easy, stressful, no guarantee...........nope.
I'm in VA. My next door neghbour just lost her house after months and months of trying to keep up with the payments, foreclosure and then a quick sale by the bank for $100k less than what i still owe on mine... If i was able to rent mine it would be well short of the monthly morgage payment to the tune of $500 +, I guess it sucks to be me.

I have made zero progress in finding a job in the UK or Europe. One 15 minute phone call from a UK agency, promises, promises and then nothing..... so no suprise there then

Heathcare continuess to be a confusing and expensive joke, my 7 year old son spent 8 hours in a hospital emergancy room a coupel of months ago and despite having insurance I am significantly out of pocket with multiple items apparently not covered by my insurance. *go figure eh. The bills contiue to arrive.

There is not a day goes by without me thinking about getting out of here for sure your not alone!
 
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I'm in VA. My next door neghbour just lost her house after months and months of trying to keep up with the payments, foreclosure and then a quick sale by the bank for $100k less than what i still owe on mine... If i was able to rent mine it would be well short of the monthly morgage payment to the tune of $500 +, I guess it sucks to be me.

I have made zero progress in finding a job in the UK or Europe. One 15 minute phone call from a UK agency, promises, promises and then nothing..... so no suprise there then

Heathcare continuess to be a confusing and expensive joke, my 7 year old son spent 8 hours in a hospital emergancy room a coupel of months ago and despite having insurance I am significantly out of pocket with multiple items apparently not covered by my insurance. *go figure eh. The bills contiue to arrive.

There is not a day goes by without me thinking about getting out of here for sure your not alone!
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Originally Posted by Sherro
the pull and romance of returning to the UK can become super strong and unbearable, and the feeling of relief when you are on the plane can be exhilarating.

However as another poster here put, the mind plays tricks and once all the mind clutter and stress has gone, and post honeymoon period and you settle back into the UK life and normality, winter kicks in and in many cases friends who are more distant second time round don't show you the love, then all of a sudden thoughts of, those exciting first trips round Tesco's and 60 minute flight to paris change to, "ohhhh what have I done"...

Not always the case, but often, subtle changes occur in you over time and you realise you have more in common with the place you left than the place you have gone back to, even if you didnt realise.

Just saying this, not to deter you, follow your dreams, BUT id leave a window open to return if you can, get your PR, green card or whatever you dreamt of back in blighty in the first place and then go back so you have a back up plan.

Don't worry about the money, that can be re-earnt, piece of mind cant. I spent probably $100k AUS returning to the UK, shipping, costs, resettling and then moving back out again to Aus after 12 months, and I don't regret doing it cos I had to do it, and was only ever going to do it once and would have gone bonkers if didnt.

Good luck, just leave a door open if you can....
#25 This is a great reply - I can so relate! I just experienced over 24 months of wanting to move back to the UK after 20+ years in CA. I planned for 12 months and made it happen. The trips to Tesco's and relearning how to count change in pence, the countryside, the tv, all very exciting. But starting to settle into life here and many doubts arose. I've been here only 3 months, but am cutting my losses now and heading back to the US next year. I'm disappointed that I'm not able to live my English dream, but it's so very different. I hope if you come back you feel settled and will have made the right choice for you and your family. All the best and good luck.
 
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I so understand with several members caught up in the house market crash in the us.
Iv'e a house here in Florida and the house prices here has gone rock bottom, i sure hope that it's bottomed out now.
I bought my house some 2 yrs ago and got it 60/70k cheaper than what was it was valued at...even with that good head start its hard to even get what i payed.. been on the market 3 plus months now, with no veiws/offers, even tho i droped the price 20k in that short time of being on the market..

I would feel very, very, lucky to break even on this house to be honest.
Yep, rent the house out is a option, but ive been down that rd before also on this property and had no ends of problems with the tennant and i finally got a court order to kick them out...also the judge ordered the tennant to pay 10k in losses and damages to me.
kinda strange the laws here in Florida, the judge can order the tennant/s out and he/she have to pay x amount but the judge can't make them pay....crazy huh? ....hmmmm ok now try and get your cash back now.... it's a nightmare..

So my advice to anybody whos thinking of renting to ride the storm, then have a good hard think of what could go wrong, and if you live in my state, then i would double, triple think about it...

Anyways....lets all pray that 2010 would turn around, somehow. i feel at this stage is the only way is up....fingers crossed..


Best wishes all merry xmas and hopefully a much better new year...
 
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Originally Posted by jaxslad
I so understand with several members caught up in the house market crash in the us.
Iv'e a house here in Florida and the house prices here has gone rock bottom, i sure hope that it's bottomed out now.
I bought my house some 2 yrs ago and got it 60/70k cheaper than what was it was valued at...even with that good head start its hard to even get what i payed.. been on the market 3 plus months now, with no veiws/offers, even tho i droped the price 20k in that short time of being on the market..

I would feel very, very, lucky to break even on this house to be honest.
Yep, rent the house out is a option, but ive been down that rd before also on this property and had no ends of problems with the tennant and i finally got a court order to kick them out...also the judge ordered the tennant to pay 10k in losses and damages to me.
kinda strange the laws here in Florida, the judge can order the tennant/s out and he/she have to pay x amount but the judge can't make them pay....crazy huh? ....hmmmm ok now try and get your cash back now.... it's a nightmare..

So my advice to anybody whos thinking of renting to ride the storm, then have a good hard think of what could go wrong, and if you live in my state, then i would double, triple think about it...

Anyways....lets all pray that 2010 would turn around, somehow. i feel at this stage is the only way is up....fingers crossed..


Best wishes all merry xmas and hopefully a much better new year...
Me too, lucky to break even on house, bought 2 and 1/2 years ago, in SC, now selling at less than I paid for it, get no money back. Have to keep telling myself I paid to be on a vacation in a resort area for 2 years, instead of I bought a house at the wrong time in a high price area (Charleston) - that way I feel a little better at losing money. Also, dread thought of renting. But how long do you wait, when it's eating up money every month, and you are not getting any younger to make this major move to the UK? Thought about walking away, but they can trace you internationally these days and take every penny you have. And then there's that guilty conscience.......So, think very carefully, all those out there, who are questioning a move either to or from the UK. Do it for the right reasons, using both head and heart to reach a decision, weighing all pros and cons. Because if you don't, you can find yourself trapped, stuck in a waiting room of life, like so many of us.

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Originally Posted by Sherro
the pull and romance of returning to the UK can become super strong and unbearable, and the feeling of relief when you are on the plane can be exhilarating.

However as another poster here put, the mind plays tricks and once all the mind clutter and stress has gone, and post honeymoon period and you settle back into the UK life and normality, winter kicks in and in many cases friends who are more distant second time round don't show you the love, then all of a sudden thoughts of, those exciting first trips round Tesco's and 60 minute flight to paris change to, "ohhhh what have I done"...

Not always the case, but often, subtle changes occur in you over time and you realise you have more in common with the place you left than the place you have gone back to, even if you didnt realise.

Just saying this, not to deter you, follow your dreams, BUT id leave a window open to return if you can, get your PR, green card or whatever you dreamt of back in blighty in the first place and then go back so you have a back up plan.

Don't worry about the money, that can be re-earnt, piece of mind cant. I spent probably $100k AUS returning to the UK, shipping, costs, resettling and then moving back out again to Aus after 12 months, and I don't regret doing it cos I had to do it, and was only ever going to do it once and would have gone bonkers if didnt.

Good luck, just leave a door open if you can....
Actually that is a scary thought, I've been back 6 months to the day in the UK now and think I've been very lucky. Friends have stayed the same as well as family. Coming back from Canada, the winter in the UK feels pretty feeble. In fact it's hard to see what all the fuss is about. I'm just happy that the snow melts after a couple of days here.

Wherever you are normal life can get you down. Inevietably there are some frustrating things about being back in the UK but I'm still very happy to be back. Maybe I didn't have such huge expectations in the first place.
 
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#25 This is a great reply - I can so relate! I just experienced over 24 months of wanting to move back to the UK after 20+ years in CA. I planned for 12 months and made it happen. The trips to Tesco's and relearning how to count change in pence, the countryside, the tv, all very exciting. But starting to settle into life here and many doubts arose. I've been here only 3 months, but am cutting my losses now and heading back to the US next year. I'm disappointed that I'm not able to live my English dream, but it's so very different. I hope if you come back you feel settled and will have made the right choice for you and your family. All the best and good luck.
Sounds like a classic case of reverse culture shock. No doubt, North America can be a very comfortable place to live. After 20+ years in CA, is 3 months in the UK enough time to make up your mind? I would be interested to hear what made you decide to return to CA.

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I will have been back 3 months tomorrow to the day after 44 years in Canada. Is everything roses and sunshine, definetly not, but I still am very optimistic about my future here. It will be hard work, not just physically but emotionaly also, I came with my eyes wide open to the UK 's warts, but I am still glad I started the journey.
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#25 This is a great reply - I can so relate! I just experienced over 24 months of wanting to move back to the UK after 20+ years in CA. I planned for 12 months and made it happen. The trips to Tesco's and relearning how to count change in pence, the countryside, the tv, all very exciting. But starting to settle into life here and many doubts arose. I've been here only 3 months, but am cutting my losses now and heading back to the US next year. I'm disappointed that I'm not able to live my English dream, but it's so very different. I hope if you come back you feel settled and will have made the right choice for you and your family. All the best and good luck.
 
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I will have been back 3 months tomorrow to the day after 44 years in Canada. Is everything roses and sunshine, definetly not, but I still am very optimistic about my future here. It will be hard work, not just physically but emotionaly also, I came with my eyes wide open to the UK 's warts, but I am still glad I started the journey.
At least you have had the experience of living in another country. If you had not moved, you would probably be saying to yourself "Maybe I should have gone to.......????". Everywhere has it's pros and cons. I am going back to the UK this year after 22 years in Canada and 8 years in South Africa. It is not that I do not like Canada or that I think the UK is Utopia, I just feel it is time for a change and I have no regrets. Maybe I need a new challenge? We are truly in the Global Village.

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