to sum up...why do so many return from Oz ?
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I think you have to take the rough with the smooth. Nothing will go perfectly according to plan when you move abroad. I guess the main question is where do you feel most at home and happy. For some they move here and love it for others not so.
I do also think there is a slight anti-england feeling among a small minority Im not saying it's really bad but there is a slight them against us mentality amongst some Aussies.
I guess at the end of the day you can say you gave it a go rather then wondering what if.
I do also think there is a slight anti-england feeling among a small minority Im not saying it's really bad but there is a slight them against us mentality amongst some Aussies.
I guess at the end of the day you can say you gave it a go rather then wondering what if.
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The butcher and his wife are very good friends of mine. When he started work here for a very reputable butcher near the City he was working daft hours, worse than the UK to be honest. His quality of life was zero. He left his job and has just started training to be a police officer.
I have this same problem. I immigrated to Canada four years ago, with my Mum, Dad and sister, but two years down the line, I went back to visit relatives for six weeks, and I entered a state of depression upon leaving English soil. It took just over a month and a half for me to settle down again. I have just come back from another visit for seven weeks, and once again I feel myself loosing concentration already. I have to go to school in half hour!
I'd like to persuade my parents to move us back to England, but my dad won't seem to budge. I have told him how I feel and I am awaiting his reply later on.
When I'm in England, I feel rather safe, secure, and at home, I do not feel safe or at home here. I feel secure (A bit too secure perhaps!), and that's it. I'm not happy.
Problem is, we can afford to move back after we've sold our house here, but Dad does not like all the taxes, the congestion and all that. I think our hometown in Ware, Hertfordshire is a lovely place, Dad doesn't.
I'd like to persuade my parents to move us back to England, but my dad won't seem to budge. I have told him how I feel and I am awaiting his reply later on.
When I'm in England, I feel rather safe, secure, and at home, I do not feel safe or at home here. I feel secure (A bit too secure perhaps!), and that's it. I'm not happy.
Problem is, we can afford to move back after we've sold our house here, but Dad does not like all the taxes, the congestion and all that. I think our hometown in Ware, Hertfordshire is a lovely place, Dad doesn't.
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We met a couple from Ware and visited them. What a lovely village. Their house was a tiny terraced but cost 3 times more than the house we lived in oop North.
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However, Dad thinks it's too crowded and too rough. I've tried to tell him that Ware is actually one of the safest places in the UK to live, as long as you aren't around late on a Friday or Saturday night when the pubs empty out. Ware is a little crowded, it really shows on Musley Hill. Only one lane of traffic can go up or down the hill at a time, drivers going down have to pull over to let traffic pass them to go up the hill.
Ware is a town. I love Ware, but it's expensive. A semi-detached three bedroom house is £225,000 in Ware.
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We know and have met quite a few people that have lived here for over 20yrs +, but still say they would go back if it was not for the children now being australian,s etc. The children get their belonging for Australia, as the parents get their's for the memory's and gut feelings for what they had.
How people say they still won't to die in the country of there birth.
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I think a lot of Brits come to Australia with very unrealistic expectations. They expect a sunnier version of the UK when in fact the culture is quite different. This means they don't always make much effort to adapt and integrate.
Another reason so many return is simply that so many go to Oz in the first place.
Another reason so many return is simply that so many go to Oz in the first place.
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And to answer your second point - because they openly admit to slagging off the UK to make them selves feel better about their decision
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I didnt realise when I came to australia that you are forever branded as a pom, as an outsider. I constantly get asked where I am visiting from, (I often say from my house a few miles away :P), how long am I staying etc.
When I explain I have been here years they are always shocked saying my accent hasnt changed, as if its something I should have done by now.
I thought that after awhile we would be accepted but australians constantly like to make it clear that this is their country and you are only visiting.
When I explain I have been here years they are always shocked saying my accent hasnt changed, as if its something I should have done by now.
I thought that after awhile we would be accepted but australians constantly like to make it clear that this is their country and you are only visiting.
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I will assume that there are exceptions, but I have been lucky enough not to come across them in my 18 years of living here. And I still have a Mancunian accent.
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I think its good to know where you belong but why should you be tied to it all your life? Life is about experiencing and living to the full....regrets would depress me more.
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Having lived on Oz for 25 years I have found that the majority of Brits return because they miss close family, or were unprepared for the transition workwise.Men seem to settle easier having work mates and a routine to follow.Wives on the other hand find it harder to adapt particularly if they are not working and have no close relatives to relate to.Often is the case that new emigrants buy housing in the new suburbs which take time to develop all the infrastructure around it, and public transport difficult
Perth for example now requires at least $A550000 for a reasonable house in a good suburb, if you pay $A350000 you will end up in an outer or new suburb
Perth for example now requires at least $A550000 for a reasonable house in a good suburb, if you pay $A350000 you will end up in an outer or new suburb
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I'm sure everyone's reasons are different but that "sense of belonging" is a common theme.
We have only been here less than 3 months but I just don't fit in here. I'm at the homesick stage of missing my family, even though we didn't live that near them in the UK, its just knowing that I'm not going to see anyone for at least a year or 2 that makes it hard. We are also struggling financially as OHs salary is less than half what he got in the UK but our monthly costs are about the same, not less!
We are living in a nice rental, in a great area, kids have settled well at school but it still does not feel good at the moment. I think there is a case of seeing the UK with the rose tinted spectacles on, and its easy to knock everything here from the awful clothes, to the expensive food etc - I'm not very positive at the moment and I can feel that spiralling towards to the point of just having to return to the UK.
However, we moved our money over when the exchange rate was poor (because we thought it was going to get worse, not better) but now the rate has really picked up again (which makes me feel sick) so we would lose a lot more if we changed it back to £sterling now, I don't know where we would return to in the UK, the children don't want to go back at all, so its really hard at the moment, knowing what to do for the best and how to plan for the next year.
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We have only been here less than 3 months but I just don't fit in here. I'm at the homesick stage of missing my family, even though we didn't live that near them in the UK, its just knowing that I'm not going to see anyone for at least a year or 2 that makes it hard. We are also struggling financially as OHs salary is less than half what he got in the UK but our monthly costs are about the same, not less!
We are living in a nice rental, in a great area, kids have settled well at school but it still does not feel good at the moment. I think there is a case of seeing the UK with the rose tinted spectacles on, and its easy to knock everything here from the awful clothes, to the expensive food etc - I'm not very positive at the moment and I can feel that spiralling towards to the point of just having to return to the UK.
However, we moved our money over when the exchange rate was poor (because we thought it was going to get worse, not better) but now the rate has really picked up again (which makes me feel sick) so we would lose a lot more if we changed it back to £sterling now, I don't know where we would return to in the UK, the children don't want to go back at all, so its really hard at the moment, knowing what to do for the best and how to plan for the next year.
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