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Old Jan 31st 2012 | 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by formula
His face was a picture when it was pointed out to him that the two biggest failing UK banks were two Scottish registered banks and that Scotland alone would then have to foot their bill and keep bailing them out. Up to that point, I don't think he had even considered Scottish banks bail outs or Scotland's share of the national debt that they will have to take.

As a Eurozone country, Scotland would also have to find the money to support it's currency, the Euro, through it's time of great need.
I think Scotland is assuming that it's EU membership as a individual nation state would be a foregone conclusion without any actual genuine suggestion of that by the Eurozone.

If what you're suggesting there did happen, and let's be fair there isn't really any reason why it shouldn't, then Scotland would probably find itself in the same position as Ireland almost immediately, if not worse. It would also be pretty much impossible for Scotland to become a Schenghen nation because even if it did allow Schenghen entry for flights originating in the EU then the UK would need to build a massive fortification across the land border, something which I can imagine the UK government (particularly under the Tories) would take great delight in doing.

All this is going to be is a ton of money thrown at a completely pointless purpose by both England and Scotland which likely will not come to anything and at a time when that money could definitely be better invested elsewhere.
 
Old Jan 31st 2012 | 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by king kong
we are all still answerable to brussels which i find laughable ,the headquarters of europe in a country that must hold the record for not having a government .
I think the Belgian reaction to Britain's attempts at closing the Lille loophole from within Continental Europe have not helped to convince the UK government or it's people that further integration with the EU would be in the UK's best interest.

Because of how Belgium reacted to that, you are likely going to see documentation checks at both ends before too long when boarding a Eurostar train to Britain now instead of just on the continent.
 
Old Jan 31st 2012 | 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by DigitalGhost
I think Scotland is assuming that it's EU membership as a individual nation state would be a foregone conclusion without any actual genuine suggestion of that by the Eurozone.
What makes you think that Scotland would assume to be part of the Eurozone? It would make more sense right now to be independent of it, particularily the Euro.

If what you're suggesting there did happen, and let's be fair there isn't really any reason why it shouldn't, then Scotland would probably find itself in the same position as Ireland almost immediately, if not worse. It would also be pretty much impossible for Scotland to become a Schenghen nation because even if it did allow Schenghen entry for flights originating in the EU then the UK (Should't that be England?) would need to build a massive fortification across the land border, something which I can imagine the UK (Shouldn't that be England?) government (particularly under the Tories) would take great delight in doing.

All this is going to be is a ton of money thrown at a completely pointless purpose by both England and Scotland which likely will not come to anything and at a time when that money could definitely be better invested elsewhere.
Alex Salmond today was promoting Samsung Heavy Industry investing in Scotland, and also mentioning several other big industry players coming here. Probably to counteract the declining North Sea drilling and development as a continual source of income.
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Old Jan 31st 2012 | 9:01 am
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I purposefully used the term 'UK' there as it would indicate a 'UK' consisting of England, Wales and N.I. but not Scotland and it would seem that Scotland would like to be more integrated with Europe then the current UK government allows I think.

I honestly think that even if this were to happen then Scotland would probably just end up like another Republic of Ireland, internationally recognised as being an extension of the UK and pretty much reliant upon the UK economically and politically.
 

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