Schoolboys get detention for refusing to pray to Allah!
Jul 10th 2008 | 2:44 pm
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Re: Schoolboys get detention for refusing to pray to Allah!
I'd vote for him! Sounds like a great chap.
This is the problem. Immigrants move in, contribute to the system (working, paying tax, having kids who then become second generation immigrants). At what point down the line are they allowed to have their say? Does it make it more palatable if large groups have moved here en masse (say, Brits moving to Australia)?
I know as an immigrant myself I expect to adapt to the ways of the host country but I also expect as a long term member of that society to have a say and have certain rights (as well as responsibilities) extended to me.
Second generation immigrants usually also want to retain their original cultural background as well as their new cultural identity, which then really complicates the issue.
It's a very complex situation and one that we do have to address given the transient nature of today's world.
This is the problem. Immigrants move in, contribute to the system (working, paying tax, having kids who then become second generation immigrants). At what point down the line are they allowed to have their say? Does it make it more palatable if large groups have moved here en masse (say, Brits moving to Australia)?
I know as an immigrant myself I expect to adapt to the ways of the host country but I also expect as a long term member of that society to have a say and have certain rights (as well as responsibilities) extended to me.
Second generation immigrants usually also want to retain their original cultural background as well as their new cultural identity, which then really complicates the issue.
It's a very complex situation and one that we do have to address given the transient nature of today's world.
Jul 10th 2008 | 3:01 pm
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Jul 10th 2008 | 7:44 pm
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Re: Schoolboys get detention for refusing to pray to Allah!
The more I read about all these various religeons, the more I see how similar they all are.
They're all a load of ******** in my opinion, but very similar nevertheless!
They're all a load of ******** in my opinion, but very similar nevertheless!
Jul 10th 2008 | 8:04 pm
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Jul 10th 2008 | 8:18 pm
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That's probably the most sensible thing about religion that anyone has said in this thread. The trouble is with those believers who think you are wrong and will rot in hell.
Jul 10th 2008 | 8:34 pm
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In fact it already is, with the Shanghai composite down a massive 50% in less than a year - the biggest bear market in history. On top of all that, Beijing also has to worry about Moscow and Delhi all the time, not to mention Tokyo (with the biggest navy in Asia). If that weren't bad enough, \the one child policy has caused a dreadful imbalance in their demographics and a serious time bomb is ticking away under the whole population.
The Chinese threat is exaggerated enormously.
Jul 10th 2008 | 8:41 pm
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Jul 10th 2008 | 8:50 pm
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Agghhh...sorry Northern Bird - I've been going mad trying to find the particular bio I read and can't, it hasn't kept it in my browser. You'll just have to trust me. Who knows, it might have been written for a specific community event of the Muslim type....don't know, I'd gone into a Google frenzy.
Jul 10th 2008 | 11:03 pm
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"We cannot go into the technical details of his methodology but it allows Luxenberg, to the probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of sexual bliss in the Muslim hereafter, to conjure away the wide-eyed houris promised to the faithful in suras XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new analysis, leaning on the Hymns of Ephrem the Syrian, yields "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" rather than doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris. Luxenberg claims that the context makes it clear that it is food and drink that is being offerred, and not unsullied maidens or houris."
Sorry guys, but you blow yourselves up for dried fruit.
Jul 10th 2008 | 11:52 pm
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Well I do kind of like raisins, but they'd have to give me more than 72 of them!
If I was in a raisin eating mood, I could get through 72 in about 10 minutes very easily. Not much of a way to spend the rest of eternity really!
Does anyone know how they came up with the number 72 though?
If I was in a raisin eating mood, I could get through 72 in about 10 minutes very easily. Not much of a way to spend the rest of eternity really!
Does anyone know how they came up with the number 72 though?
Jul 11th 2008 | 8:47 am
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A mix is pretty healthy, not like the uni situation here in Oz which is mono-culture, well for uni of NSW and Macquarie anyhow. I think Sydney and UWS are holding their own.
Jul 11th 2008 | 11:30 am
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I wondered that myself. I think it is wrong. The number actually comes from the fact that it is Chapter 55 verse 72 which says 55:72 Fair ones, close-guarded in pavilions. In other words Allah will reward believing men with "fair ones" (beautiful women) in heaven. The verse number has somehow been mixed in with the verse.
It would be interesting to know how many fair ones you can have. Perhaps Canuck74 can give us an exact number.
It would be interesting to know how many fair ones you can have. Perhaps Canuck74 can give us an exact number.
