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This Sceptred Isle
This sceptred Isle(I said sceptred not septic),
For those of you returning and to those leaving with all those nasty thoughts of what they have left behind. Do you hanker for Bali, Hawaii, Majorca, St Lucia or Mustique I suppose you could add Sydney etc? Forget them all. you are already privileged to be living on quite simply the most beautiful Island on Earth, according to the 2003 edition of Lonely Planet. Lonely Planet vouching for Britains astounding variety describes London as one of the truly great capitals. Tourists and Brits should get off the beaten track to discover newly rejuvenated cities beautiful countryside and magnificent coastlines. You can immerse yourself in history, marvel at majestic cathedrals, eat in world class restaurants or friendly local cafes, down a pint in a traditional pub, stroll through chocolate box villages, hike over wild moors, or dance all night in an ultra trendy club. And all in a country that takes about 12 hours to drive end to end. Robin Young The Times March 26 2003 Ah I feel better already. Just get a little fed up with peoples negative view of the UK. We may be a small country and don't have cuddly looking marsupials roaming around our countryside but nevertheless we're an important part of the planet and although its probably not pc to say it I am proud to be British. Welcome back to all those returning and good luck. |
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Originally posted by Amazonman This sceptred Isle(I said sceptred not septic), For those of you returning and to those leaving with all those nasty thoughts of what they have left behind. Do you hanker for Bali, Hawaii, Majorca, St Lucia or Mustique I suppose you could add Sydney etc? Forget them all. you are already privileged to be living on quite simply the most beautiful Island on Earth, according to the 2003 edition of Lonely Planet. Lonely Planet vouching for Britains astounding variety describes London as one of the truly great capitals. Tourists and Brits should get off the beaten track to discover newly rejuvenated cities beautiful countryside and magnificent coastlines. You can immerse yourself in history, marvel at majestic cathedrals, eat in world class restaurants or friendly local cafes, down a pint in a traditional pub, stroll through chocolate box villages, hike over wild moors, or dance all night in an ultra trendy club. And all in a country that takes about 12 hours to drive end to end. Robin Young The Times March 26 2003 Ah I feel better already. Just get a little fed up with peoples negative view of the UK. We may be a small country and don't have cuddly looking marsupials roaming around our countryside but nevertheless we're an important part of the planet and although its probably not pc to say it I am proud to be British. Welcome back to all those returning and good luck. Good for you! Its good to have a few positive messages about the UK around, and expressing pride in ones country is never a bad thing. we should remember though....for all of the few whiners who are on this site, moaning about the UK there are sixty million who live there quite happily. |
I completely agree. Luckily we have 'been there and done that' so can view the 'negative Britain' brigade from up here in our towers of knowledge.
Always good for a chuckle though these forums! |
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Originally posted by Amazonman This sceptred Isle(I said sceptred not septic), For those of you returning and to those leaving with all those nasty thoughts of what they have left behind. Do you hanker for Bali, Hawaii, Majorca, St Lucia or Mustique I suppose you could add Sydney etc? Forget them all. you are already privileged to be living on quite simply the most beautiful Island on Earth, according to the 2003 edition of Lonely Planet. Lonely Planet vouching for Britains astounding variety describes London as one of the truly great capitals. Tourists and Brits should get off the beaten track to discover newly rejuvenated cities beautiful countryside and magnificent coastlines. You can immerse yourself in history, marvel at majestic cathedrals, eat in world class restaurants or friendly local cafes, down a pint in a traditional pub, stroll through chocolate box villages, hike over wild moors, or dance all night in an ultra trendy club. And all in a country that takes about 12 hours to drive end to end. Robin Young The Times March 26 2003 Ah I feel better already. Just get a little fed up with peoples negative view of the UK. We may be a small country and don't have cuddly looking marsupials roaming around our countryside but nevertheless we're an important part of the planet and although its probably not pc to say it I am proud to be British. Welcome back to all those returning and good luck. I too am fed up people being so negative about Britain, because of course I know it's not true as I come from an area next to beautiful beaches and beautiful countryside, I’ve seen a tiny bit of the world too, and I am absolutely fed up of people saying everything is congested in the Uk, this and that - too cold, etc etc. What rot!! Yes maybe if you're in a big city like London with 7 million people - but if you don't like London ,get out of there, not everywhere is like that. Wales has only 2.9 million compared to London's 7 million, and you could fit London in a good few times into Wales (I haven't got the actual size/figure of London - just know you can fit it into Wales a good few times) And what about beautiful Cornwall and Devon Do you know I've travelled to more places outside the UK than within it? Which is a shame. There's a few things what I want do when I come home - I've never been to Scotland - so I wouldn't mind going on a touring holiday there, and the other one which I want to do is go to Ireland and see my mum's hometown etc. Take off with a small tent, a fishing rod and some money of course for a couple of months - and for any negative bee's who say's it's too cold to do that - you don't get so cold if you move your body around a bit and not sit on your butt in the house, watching TV and moaning it’s too cold to go out - try it sometime Anyway, I totally agree with you - good post. cheers:) |
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Originally posted by Ceri Here, here. I too am fed up people being so negative about Britain, because of course I know it's not true as I come from an area next to beautiful beaches and beautiful countryside, I’ve seen a tiny bit of the world too, and I am absolutely fed up of people saying everything is congested in the Uk, this and that - too cold, etc etc. What rot!! Yes maybe if you're in a big city like London with 7 million people - but if you don't like London ,get out of there, not everywhere is like that. Wales has only 2.9 million compared to London's 7 million, and you could fit London in a good few times into Wales (I haven't got the actual size/figure of London - just know you can fit it into Wales a good few times) And what about beautiful Cornwall and Devon Do you know I've travelled to more places outside the UK than within it? Which is a shame. There's a few things what I want do when I come home - I've never been to Scotland - so I wouldn't mind going on a touring holiday there, and the other one which I want to do is go to Ireland and see my mum's hometown etc. Take off with a small tent, a fishing rod and some money of course for a couple of months - and for any negative bee's who say's it's too cold to do that - you don't get so cold if you move your body around a bit and not sit on your butt in the house, watching TV and moaning it’s too cold to go out - try it sometime Anyway, I totally agree with you - good post. cheers:) "Hey" I'm off to Scotland (and other places) in May. my Sister said it's a really great place.................. :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Most people do seem to moan about London, Ceri I shall be with you again, S
Scotland and Perthshire, where we live is stunning, possibly the most beautiful places I have seen the scenery and landscape never ceases to amaze me, I may be moving away, but I came back from Oz appreciating the history and culture that Scotland has. You know just down the road was the castle where Mary Queen of Scots was held prisoner all those years (you just don't get somethign like that over there) My husband and I intend to see all of this country before we leave we went to Oban not long ago to the birth place of my husbands clan Mcdougall and hope to head over th Islands and Sutherlands soon. We have filmed most of it so it will be close at heart. have a good time here in Sotladn if you need any tips send me a PM Carrianne x |
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Originally posted by Amazonman This sceptred Isle(I said sceptred not septic), For those of you returning and to those leaving with all those nasty thoughts of what they have left behind. Do you hanker for Bali, Hawaii, Majorca, St Lucia or Mustique I suppose you could add Sydney etc? Forget them all. you are already privileged to be living on quite simply the most beautiful Island on Earth, according to the 2003 edition of Lonely Planet. Lonely Planet vouching for Britains astounding variety describes London as one of the truly great capitals. Tourists and Brits should get off the beaten track to discover newly rejuvenated cities beautiful countryside and magnificent coastlines. You can immerse yourself in history, marvel at majestic cathedrals, eat in world class restaurants or friendly local cafes, down a pint in a traditional pub, stroll through chocolate box villages, hike over wild moors, or dance all night in an ultra trendy club. And all in a country that takes about 12 hours to drive end to end. Robin Young The Times March 26 2003 Ah I feel better already. Just get a little fed up with peoples negative view of the UK. We may be a small country and don't have cuddly looking marsupials roaming around our countryside but nevertheless we're an important part of the planet and although its probably not pc to say it I am proud to be British. Welcome back to all those returning and good luck. I do miss home and am sure that one day me and my family will return. I think the countryside of Britain some of the most beautiful in the world, whenever I go home it makes my heart sing to see those green fields, so many bright colours it makes Sweden look drab in comparison. Also, I am very proud to be British. Even with all the bad press that we get I feel that we have a lot to be proud of, our history, our culture and yes even our food ( not just fish and chips and steak and kidney pud - although it beats the hell out of meatballs and falukorv stroganof!). I also think we have a brilliant sense of humour and, unlike a lot of countries, enjoy that we can laugh at ourselves. Sometimes people become too insular and can only see the bad in things; a different perspective really opens your eyes to the fact that every country has its good and bad points. There probably is no such thing as 'paradise' but being happy where you are is a start. |
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Originally posted by Emm I totally agree and having lived in Sweden for 3 years appreciate my 'home' of Britain more than ever. I do miss home and am sure that one day me and my family will return. I think the countryside of Britain some of the most beautiful in the world, whenever I go home it makes my heart sing to see those green fields, so many bright colours it makes Sweden look drab in comparison. Also, I am very proud to be British. Even with all the bad press that we get I feel that we have a lot to be proud of, our history, our culture and yes even our food ( not just fish and chips and steak and kidney pud - although it beats the hell out of meatballs and falukorv stroganof!). I also think we have a brilliant sense of humour and, unlike a lot of countries, enjoy that we can laugh at ourselves. Sometimes people become too insular and can only see the bad in things; a different perspective really opens your eyes to the fact that every country has its good and bad points. There probably is no such thing as 'paradise' but being happy where you are is a start. Know exactly what you mean. I've enjoyed my four years in Canada, but it sure has given me a greater appreciation of Britain. I've said this in another post, but whenever I go back to see my parents I think how lucky they are to have so many great things all around, whether its beautiful countryside, great pubs, so much cultural activity (theatre, museums art galleries) sporting events, opportunities for travel etc etc. Also completely miss the sense of humour...loads of other little things you may not miss 'till they're gone. For all its grumbles, the UK is still a great place to live. |
:) I'm a newbie poster here, although not new to living abroad- we lived in Zambia for 2 years and currently in USA for 11 years and counting. Born and bred in my beloved Wales, I've lived in Scotland and England for years too. My Hubby has travelled the world several times over with his career and - East or West Britain is best as far as he is concerned now, and it always has been for me- we're thinking of retiring in about 10 years or so, and I'm starting to look out for that little cottage in Wales to spend at least 8 months of the year. Wales is a great place to live- low cost of living, high quality of life- uncluttered, wonderful beaches, mountains and freedom.
This thread is music to my ears, I'm fed up with the moans coming out of Britain too, they don't know they're born really- we lived near London for 8 years and although I love the city, I would never live there- the same as I would never live in New York or Miami or any major US city. I must admit most of our old London friends are enjoying a very good life thank you very much, as are most of our old brit friends in general- but reading some ex-pat sites - you'd think Britain was ruled by Pol Pot! I can hear moans like that from my American co-workers every day- they'd move to UK in a heartbeat if they could. So its a joy to read these posts. Yes there are immigrants in UK but getting so fed up about that fact by becoming an immigrant and heading for a country with worse immigration problems for a bit of sunshine and a big house, doesn't make much sense to me. My brother was one of those who "had to get out of the country" - two years in Brazil has changed his view somewhat- he's heading home soon. James Joyce said he had to leave Ireland to really love it, maybe that's the case for a lot of people. I'm proud to be British- and with all the travelling my family members have done, there is no flag I'd feel safer under abroad than the Union flag. and there is no feeling like it when you get off the plane at Heathrow :) And yes the grass is definitely greener in UK (grin), the green hits you in the face when you go home for a visit, its so vivid! |
Originally posted by Taffyles :) I'm a newbie poster here, although not new to living abroad- we lived in Zambia for 2 years and currently in USA for 11 years and counting. Born and bred in my beloved Wales, I've lived in Scotland and England for years too. My Hubby has travelled the world several times over with his career and - East or West Britain is best as far as he is concerned now, and it always has been for me- we're thinking of retiring in about 10 years or so, and I'm starting to look out for that little cottage in Wales to spend at least 8 months of the year. Wales is a great place to live- low cost of living, high quality of life- uncluttered, wonderful beaches, mountains and freedom. This thread is music to my ears, I'm fed up with the moans coming out of Britain too, they don't know they're born really- we lived near London for 8 years and although I love the city, I would never live there- the same as I would never live in New York or Miami or any major US city. I must admit most of our old London friends are enjoying a very good life thank you very much, as are most of our old brit friends in general- but reading some ex-pat sites - you'd think Britain was ruled by Pol Pot! I can hear moans like that from my American co-workers every day- they'd move to UK in a heartbeat if they could. So its a joy to read these posts. Yes there are immigrants in UK but getting so fed up about that fact by becoming an immigrant and heading for a country with worse immigration problems for a bit of sunshine and a big house, doesn't make much sense to me. My brother was one of those who "had to get out of the country" - two years in Brazil has changed his view somewhat- he's heading home soon. James Joyce said he had to leave Ireland to really love it, maybe that's the case for a lot of people. I'm proud to be British- and with all the travelling my family members have done, there is no flag I'd feel safer under abroad than the Union flag. and there is no feeling like it when you get off the plane at Heathrow :) And yes the grass is definitely greener in UK (grin), the green hits you in the face when you go home for a visit, its so vivid! :D - well said! - From another Welsh person, I'm fed up to the back teeth of people saying Britain is this and that, when they are comparing a few cities in England and saying this is Britain, get real, there are beautiful parts of Britain - I always defend Wales , because that's what I know, I can't defend England, because I've never lived there , but I will defend Cornwall - spent many a holiday there - beautiful. To hear some of the ridiculous statements coming from Brit's themselves is unbelievable, they’ve obviously never gone out and explored the UK. You know yourself coming from Wales that the beaches and countryside in parts is breathtaking especially Gower (where I'm from) and to be honest I've never seen one beach here where I am (Brisbane) which in my opinion is as beautiful as Rhossili and the surrounding beaches - Noosa national park comes very close. I’ve been out of Wales/Britain for 11 years (Singapore 5, Aus 6) , travelling back for the occasional holiday. And one thing I can honestly say – is you don’t realise what you have in Britain until living in another country for years. This should make you homesick – it’s not my web page, I just came across it on the net. http://community.webshots.com/album/51158495PMLGLH And how about this cottage for you in Gower http://www.latelet.com/rentals/4437.html - That’s enough to make you homesick isn’t it? Cheers:) |
Originally posted by Taffyles :) I'm a newbie poster here, although not new to living abroad- we lived in Zambia for 2 years and currently in USA for 11 years and counting. Born and bred in my beloved Wales, I've lived in Scotland and England for years too. My Hubby has travelled the world several times over with his career and - East or West Britain is best as far as he is concerned now, and it always has been for me- we're thinking of retiring in about 10 years or so, and I'm starting to look out for that little cottage in Wales to spend at least 8 months of the year. Wales is a great place to live- low cost of living, high quality of life- uncluttered, wonderful beaches, mountains and freedom. This thread is music to my ears, I'm fed up with the moans coming out of Britain too, they don't know they're born really- we lived near London for 8 years and although I love the city, I would never live there- the same as I would never live in New York or Miami or any major US city. I must admit most of our old London friends are enjoying a very good life thank you very much, as are most of our old brit friends in general- but reading some ex-pat sites - you'd think Britain was ruled by Pol Pot! I can hear moans like that from my American co-workers every day- they'd move to UK in a heartbeat if they could. So its a joy to read these posts. Yes there are immigrants in UK but getting so fed up about that fact by becoming an immigrant and heading for a country with worse immigration problems for a bit of sunshine and a big house, doesn't make much sense to me. My brother was one of those who "had to get out of the country" - two years in Brazil has changed his view somewhat- he's heading home soon. James Joyce said he had to leave Ireland to really love it, maybe that's the case for a lot of people. I'm proud to be British- and with all the travelling my family members have done, there is no flag I'd feel safer under abroad than the Union flag. and there is no feeling like it when you get off the plane at Heathrow :) And yes the grass is definitely greener in UK (grin), the green hits you in the face when you go home for a visit, its so vivid! As for all the knockers..well as someone else said, just remember the sixty million people who live here quite happily....:D :D :D |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Taffyles
This thread is music to my ears, I'm fed up with the moans coming out of Britain too, they don't know they're born really- we lived near London for 8 years and although I love the city, I would never live there- the same as I would never live in New York or Miami or any major US city. I must admit most of our old London friends are enjoying a very good life thank you very much, as are most of our old brit friends in general- but reading some ex-pat sites - you'd think Britain was ruled by Pol Pot! I can hear moans like that from my American co-workers every day- they'd move to UK in a heartbeat if they could. So its a joy to read these posts. I know what you mean, but we should remember that this is an expat site, so by its very nature its going to attract people who want to move abroad. There are lots of people who still live very happily in UK, but who we never hear from. Don't judge everybody in UK on the basis of the same few whingers on this site... Good post by the way... |
Originally posted by Ceri :D - well said! - From another Welsh person, I'm fed up to the back teeth of people saying Britain is this and that, when they are comparing a few cities in England and saying this is Britain, get real, there are beautiful parts of Britain - I always defend Wales , because that's what I know, I can't defend England, because I've never lived there , but I will defend Cornwall - spent many a holiday there - beautiful. To hear some of the ridiculous statements coming from Brit's themselves is unbelievable, they’ve obviously never gone out and explored the UK. You know yourself coming from Wales that the beaches and countryside in parts is breathtaking especially Gower (where I'm from) and to be honest I've never seen one beach here where I am (Brisbane) which in my opinion is as beautiful as Rhossili and the surrounding beaches - Noosa national park comes very close. I’ve been out of Wales/Britain for 11 years (Singapore 5, Aus 6) , travelling back for the occasional holiday. And one thing I can honestly say – is you don’t realise what you have in Britain until living in another country for years. This should make you homesick – it’s not my web page, I just came across it on the net. http://community.webshots.com/album/51158495PMLGLH And how about this cottage for you in Gower http://www.latelet.com/rentals/4437.html - That’s enough to make you homesick isn’t it? Cheers:) |
Originally posted by sundarize You're mad! Those pictures send a chill down my spine. The weather is typically British - miserable, grey and damn cold. Just look at the faces on the miserable sods in the pictures. You've been away too long, and youve got a distorted memory of what its like. I'm one of the people who has been posting here about moving back to the UK...I've been fortunate enough to be able to get back home three times within the last 15 months so I have a pretty decent idea of what I'm getting into here...I don't have a distorted memory of what its like. I was there (uk) last at Christmas, and as always I was struck by how much there is to do there, the beauty of the countryside, how great it was to be back with family and close friends. Said it before and I'll say it again...despite some of the moans, its still a really good place to live ps Ceri...thought the pictures of Gower were great...thats one area I will definetely try and get to when I'm back |
Originally posted by sundarize You're mad! Those pictures send a chill down my spine. The weather is typically British - miserable, grey and damn cold. Just look at the faces on the miserable sods in the pictures. You've been away too long, and youve got a distorted memory of what its like. The last time I went to Cardiff on business, I asked two old ladies at a bus stop where Debenhams was, and one of them replied "Why don't you f*@k off back to your own country?" Nice eh? |
Originally posted by sundarize You're mad! Those pictures send a chill down my spine. The weather is typically British - miserable, grey and damn cold. Just look at the faces on the miserable sods in the pictures. You've been away too long, and youve got a distorted memory of what its like. The last time I went to Cardiff on business, I asked two old ladies at a bus stop where Debenhams was, and one of them replied "Why don't you f*@k off back to your own country?" Nice eh? |
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Originally posted by Amazonman This sceptred Isle(I said sceptred not septic), For those of you returning and to those leaving with all those nasty thoughts of what they have left behind. Do you hanker for Bali, Hawaii, Majorca, St Lucia or Mustique I suppose you could add Sydney etc? Forget them all. you are already privileged to be living on quite simply the most beautiful Island on Earth, according to the 2003 edition of Lonely Planet. Lonely Planet vouching for Britains astounding variety describes London as one of the truly great capitals. Tourists and Brits should get off the beaten track to discover newly rejuvenated cities beautiful countryside and magnificent coastlines. You can immerse yourself in history, marvel at majestic cathedrals, eat in world class restaurants or friendly local cafes, down a pint in a traditional pub, stroll through chocolate box villages, hike over wild moors, or dance all night in an ultra trendy club. And all in a country that takes about 12 hours to drive end to end. Robin Young The Times March 26 2003 Ah I feel better already. Just get a little fed up with peoples negative view of the UK. We may be a small country and don't have cuddly looking marsupials roaming around our countryside but nevertheless we're an important part of the planet and although its probably not pc to say it I am proud to be British. Welcome back to all those returning and good luck. We (family) returned to the UK last year for 6 weeks and were overwhelmed by the friendliness of people. Cut the cliches about grey/miserable etc...it's boring to hear.:D |
Originally posted by sundarize You're mad! Those pictures send a chill down my spine. The weather is typically British - miserable, grey and damn cold. Just look at the faces on the miserable sods in the pictures. You've been away too long, and youve got a distorted memory of what its like. The last time I went to Cardiff on business, I asked two old ladies at a bus stop where Debenhams was, and one of them replied "Why don't you f*@k off back to your own country?" Nice eh? dos i chwarae efo dy nain ? :D (in so many words - go play with your granny and f off) Makes me wonder what you said to them, or the manner you said it in - ie barging in to their conversation without an "excuse me" or, "sorry to bother you", or maybe they just personally did not like you for some reason. Gawd I love our old people - PS a tip (I'm not joking!), never mess with old welsh ladies, the "mam" is much to be feared and respected. cheers:) |
Originally posted by sundarize
You're mad! Those pictures send a chill down my spine. The weather is typically British - miserable, grey and damn cold. Just look at the faces on the miserable sods in the pictures. You've been away too long, and youve got a distorted memory of what its like. The last time I went to Cardiff on business, I asked two old ladies at a bus stop where Debenhams was, and one of them replied "Why don't you f*@k off back to your own country?" Nice eh? I didn't see any miserable sods in the pictures- I saw smiling faces. And I find it hard to believe that two old ladies would use that language- just count yourself lucky that they didn't try and feed you lavabread. Now the Welsh are known for their friendliness, especially to foreigners...sooo I'm wondering what you actually did say to them. Next time try the real Capital of Wales...Swansea! hey Ceri (Cymru am byth :-) ) thanks for the links. I have a lot of those photos up on the wall in my office- Rhossili, Three Cliffs and Caswell in particular. I spent half my childhood on Llangennith- wonderful! That's my kids favourite beach too, and they've been to many all over the world. I lived in Neath for the first 13 years of my life- adore Swansea- have relatives in Mumbles, Penclawdd, Uplands and my best friend from infants school has a beautiful house in Southgate, Gower - lucky thing! That house for rent- if its the one I think it is- right smack in the middle of Rhossili and Llangenith? I would love to buy it! I've been fascinated by that house since I was knee high- its supposed to be haunted. Apparently, the last vicar who lived there on his own- felt a hand on his shoulder one night and heard a voice say "turn round and look at me" - he legged it and never went back. At least that's one of the ghost stories of the place. The house (old rectory) is listed in the book Britain's Haunted heritage. What wouldn't I give to own that place... |
Originally posted by Taffyles Originally posted by sundarize You're mad! Those pictures send a chill down my spine. The weather is typically British - miserable, grey and damn cold. Just look at the faces on the miserable sods in the pictures. You've been away too long, and youve got a distorted memory of what its like. The last time I went to Cardiff on business, I asked two old ladies at a bus stop where Debenhams was, and one of them replied "Why don't you f*@k off back to your own country?" Nice eh? I didn't see any miserable sods in the pictures- I saw smiling faces. And I find it hard to believe that two old ladies would use that language- just count yourself lucky that they didn't try and feed you lavabread. Now the Welsh are known for their friendliness, especially to foreigners...sooo I'm wondering what you actually did say to them. Next time try the real Capital of Wales...Swansea! hey Ceri (Cymru am byth :-) ) thanks for the links. I have a lot of those photos up on the wall in my office- Rhossili, Three Cliffs and Caswell in particular. I spent half my childhood on Llangennith- wonderful! That's my kids favourite beach too, and they've been to many all over the world. I lived in Neath for the first 13 years of my life- adore Swansea- have relatives in Mumbles, Penclawdd, Uplands and my best friend from infants school has a beautiful house in Southgate, Gower - lucky thing! That house for rent- if its the one I think it is- right smack in the middle of Rhossili and Llangenith? I would love to buy it! I've been fascinated by that house since I was knee high- its supposed to be haunted. Apparently, the last vicar who lived there on his own- felt a hand on his shoulder one night and heard a voice say "turn round and look at me" - he legged it and never went back. At least that's one of the ghost stories of the place. The house (old rectory) is listed in the book Britain's Haunted heritage. What wouldn't I give to own that place... . I came across a cottage, all whitewashed, one storey - your typical "chocolate box cottage" , for sale last year on the net, it was overlooking Rhossilli somewhere - and the viewsI - it didn't have a price on it, but it must have been over a million easily. My mate has a lovely old house overlooking crofty sand flats - renovated it - 4 beds, beautiful large kitchen etc - it's valued at around 250 grand (pounds) - not bad, considering the prices in England. I can tell you how much the houses are going for in Mumbles now, the terraced houses there, hundred and twenty thou, when I left around 11 years ago they were 65 to 75 thou. I have a relative who lives there, next door neighbours house sold for 125 the other month. Still not bad considering it's only a hop and a skip to Mumbles front. I find it funny when people say all beaches are packed in the uk etc, when I know this is not true. As for Cardiff, I can't say I'm fond of the place myself - too sprawled out, busy and too "Englishy" if you know what I mean . I just found it funny that two old dears told him/her to " F off" - I could picture it in my head - two little old frail ladies sitting at a bus stop and cursing- lol, now if he had said it was in Swansea, I'd be phoning my mum-in-law up and asking her if she is swearing at the tourists again , and to cut it out! - lol. It doesn't ring true to me somehow, nobody tells you " F off" for absolutely no reason at all, especially two old ladies! - must have upset them somehow if it's true. Normally if old people want to swear at you, they'll say it in Welsh - sounds better, and nobody can understand them lol. cheers:) http://www.explore-gower.co.uk/images/oldchabh.jpg (Burry Holmes) P.S the BBC has put new sections on it's site - there's one for South Wales, news - beaches , forums etc if you're interested - there are beach web cams there somewhere - I can't seem to find them again, they are there somewhere - I looked at one the other day - http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/ PPS - talking about little old ladies swearing - I'm not sure what type of humour you've got, but if you like "black comedy" - try and get your hands on the film "Twin Town" starring Rhys Ifans. It's set in Swansea, about crime and drugs etc - the dirty side of life, it's not to everyones taste - a lot of swearing (father - in - law hated it, didn't find it funny at all) - but I loved it, found it very funny, I've lent it to a few Aussie mates here, and they actually found it funny too - which is surprising, considering they have a different sense of humour to myself. |
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Let's not get too carried away. Blighty is really the place to be, more character than anywhere else but not quite the rose tinted land of Shakespearean propotions. It is a great country, but let's face it, Welsh people telling the English to 'f*** off' is hardly surprising. I lived in Aberystwyth and walked into a butchers shop one day, whereupon the white coated chap expolded "ah, you're an English bastard then?' when asking about a cut of lamb. He came over all smiles once I told him I played rugby for Aberteifi, the rivals 30 miles down the road. Then again, episodes such as the above reinforce the character of the place, sadly lacking in other lands. I can forgive the Welsh, it's a beautiful country and the rugby clubs are great. |
Re: Blighty
Originally posted by Martin :beer: whereupon the white coated chap expolded "ah, you're an English bastard then?' Friendly greeting - lol :) , and are you? seriously, Martin, it depends where you go, and depends on the people. I could say the same about England, I have had people saying to me in England , oh taffy b*stard are you then, or Irish git - should explain I have an odd accent, I think I sound Welsh, but I've been accused of being Scottish and Irish (My mum is Irish, my Dad Welsh) And I'll tell you something, if you go up into the valley's , in some of the old coal mining towns - they don't even like Swansea people (Jacks) . I do know, because my dad was brought up in this one certain town, as welsh as they come - his first language was welsh. . I used to work for a delivery company when I left school, and used to deliver to some of these towns. I was treating luke warm by customers in this one town until I told them my Dad used to live here - oh hello bach , everytime I used to go back there - want a cup of tea dear? - what I'm trying to say is some of the Welsh are even unfriendly to other Welsh, depending where you come from, they are very clan like in places And as for you English B*stard - it may be an insult ( you get it all over the place and not just in Wales) - or it could be a friendly rib, god I call my English friends - English b*stards, I also call my Scottish friend a Scottish G*t cheers:) P.S do what I do - when someone calls me a Taffy b*stard , I respond "laughingly" in a joking manner - "Aye, and don't you ever forget it" - could work the other way too . |
You gotta go back for 'enders thats the only good thing about England oh and the chippies.
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Originally posted by Interested You gotta go back for 'enders thats the only good thing about England oh and the chippies. ..personally I can think of at least three dozen great things about the UK, and thats off the top of my head....give me a few minutes and I could have three dozen more...:) |
Ceri
The last photo you posted did indeed look "beautiful", but so does any where else in England - when the sun is shining. Wales has a right to be pissed off with other people, moving into the area to buy the cheaper houses....but there is still a work issue. My cousin moved up to north Wales 2 years ago, and paid for his house outright (37year old) which is obviously great, but the only work he could obtain was a "Bus Drivers" position at the minimun wages, which i believe to be about £4.50 an hour approx. Now he is struggling along with a new baby in the house, how on earth he manages i have no idea, his wife is still unemployed. But they both had good jobs here in the south east before. You do actually get what you pay for in the end. With regards to the old ladies, i do believe it ! Its the same anywhere else, old people do not get the respect they once had -nowdays you would be lucky if someone offered them a seat on a bus. I surpose they are biting back....................! Good Manners have flown out of the window - young and old |
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Originally posted by Martin :beer: It is a great country, but let's face it, Welsh people telling the English to 'f*** off' is hardly surprising. But, what is surprising is two old ladies using the term F. Off- that's not something their generation would say, whether they were Welsh, English or whatever. Now if they were supposed to have said sod off- it would have been slightly more believable- sorry to split hairs but how many British little old ladies do you hear using the word f..k naturally? I've lived in Wales Scotland England and never heard the older generation use it. The story didn't ring true to me LOL. I can quite believe yours though :) . Never mind old Shakey- North Wales is still the land of Owain Glyndwr and Longshanks in a few parts :( |
Originally posted by Ceri Same here, spent most of my childhood around Gower. Actually Crawly woods is one of my favourites , but I can't find any photo's of it - best kept secret , probably the reason why it's quiet. It's a quiet beach because of the walk to get to it. I'm not quite sure where that house is , but it's probably in Rhossilli somewhere, it looks like it is, I'll have to show my husband it , perhaps he'll recognise it . I came across a cottage, all whitewashed, one storey - your typical "chocolate box cottage" , for sale last year on the net, it was overlooking Rhossilli somewhere - and the viewsI - it didn't have a price on it, but it must have been over a million easily. My mate has a lovely old house overlooking crofty sand flats - renovated it - 4 beds, beautiful large kitchen etc - it's valued at around 250 grand (pounds) - not bad, considering the prices in England. I can tell you how much the houses are going for in Mumbles now, the terraced houses there, hundred and twenty thou, when I left around 11 years ago they were 65 to 75 thou. I have a relative who lives there, next door neighbours house sold for 125 the other month. Still not bad considering it's only a hop and a skip to Mumbles front. I find it funny when people say all beaches are packed in the uk etc, when I know this is not true. As for Cardiff, I can't say I'm fond of the place myself - too sprawled out, busy and too "Englishy" if you know what I mean . I just found it funny that two old dears told him/her to " F off" - I could picture it in my head - two little old frail ladies sitting at a bus stop and cursing- lol, now if he had said it was in Swansea, I'd be phoning my mum-in-law up and asking her if she is swearing at the tourists again , and to cut it out! - lol. It doesn't ring true to me somehow, nobody tells you " F off" for absolutely no reason at all, especially two old ladies! - must have upset them somehow if it's true. Normally if old people want to swear at you, they'll say it in Welsh - sounds better, and nobody can understand them lol. cheers:) http://www.explore-gower.co.uk/images/oldchabh.jpg (Burry Holmes) P.S the BBC has put new sections on it's site - there's one for South Wales, news - beaches , forums etc if you're interested - there are beach web cams there somewhere - I can't seem to find them again, they are there somewhere - I looked at one the other day - http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/ PPS - talking about little old ladies swearing - I'm not sure what type of humour you've got, but if you like "black comedy" - try and get your hands on the film "Twin Town" starring Rhys Ifans. It's set in Swansea, about crime and drugs etc - the dirty side of life, it's not to everyones taste - a lot of swearing (father - in - law hated it, didn't find it funny at all) - but I loved it, found it very funny, I've lent it to a few Aussie mates here, and they actually found it funny too - which is surprising, considering they have a different sense of humour to myself. Will try and get that film - sounds good LOL Although I don't hold out much hope here in the States- I've been trying to get a copy of "Very Annie Mary" for ages, but the yankee doodles didn't understand the humour so it didn't sell here- my Mum is coming out in a few weeks time- I'll have to add both films to my shopping list for her :) About houses in Gower, they are still very reasonable compared to some parts of UK. Like most ex-pats We've been watching the housing market in Britain closely. We still have our house in the S.East, which we bought in the last housing slump :). the best thing we ever did was to NOT sell our house when we came out here to live. A friend of ours in London is going to give us the nod when to put it on the market- before the next slump, which is bound to happen when the bottom falls right out of the market- house prices will start coming down then. Then I will be looking in earnest in Gower- my hubby always promised me we would retire there ...and I'm holding him to it LOL. hey the old Archbishop of Canterbury has just retired to Gower...gawd help us, wouldn't want him as a neighbour..I'd have to watch my bloody swearing then :scared: Iesu mawr! So when do you think you'll be going home? |
Originally posted by buttercups Ceri The last photo you posted did indeed look "beautiful", but so does any where else in England - when the sun is shining. Wales has a right to be pissed off with other people, moving into the area to buy the cheaper houses....but there is still a work issue. My cousin moved up to north Wales 2 years ago, and paid for his house outright (37year old) which is obviously great, but the only work he could obtain was a "Bus Drivers" position at the minimun wages, which i believe to be about £4.50 an hour approx. Now he is struggling along with a new baby in the house, how on earth he manages i have no idea, his wife is still unemployed. But they both had good jobs here in the south east before. You do actually get what you pay for in the end. With regards to the old ladies, i do believe it ! Its the same anywhere else, old people do not get the respect they once had -nowdays you would be lucky if someone offered them a seat on a bus. I surpose they are biting back....................! Good Manners have flown out of the window - young and old Swansea is industrialised, major industries, it's Wales' second capital city - not to say there is no unemployment like every where else of course. The areas I have mentioned are all within driving distance to major employment. Mumbles is right next to swansea city,a 10 min drive, Penclawdd (crofty) is only say half an hour drive to the major industrial area (fforestfach) - Llangennith is about three quarters of an hour drive. I'm trying to think of the driving times, how long it used to take me to drive to places. - these are estimates, it's ages since I've drove back home. - now if I had mentioned some other areas within Swansea county and the surrounding areas - like 35 to 50 grand for a house , especially Neath way and beyond- yes you get what you pay for. It is cheap as chips in some areas. P.S Taffyles - I'm hoping to go home within the next two years. It's just one thing after another that's stopping us - two years ago I would have said the same, but I'm still here in Aus - We've a lot tied up here, work, buildiing a house etc etc. - I wish I could drop everything and run to the hills :), but two years I'd say - have to go home anyway for "family reasons" Didn't want to mention the "history thing about Wales and why some welsh people will tell you to F off" maybe it's got something to do with that union Jack :D, don't get me started - lol. My hubby usually get's a ear bashing about this - funny considering he has two Welsh parents, so in a way he's more welsh than I can ever be - he believes in a united kingdom, I don't - I believe in Independence, chalk and cheese :D - he's a dear though, I'm sure he's half deaf! funny he wasn't when I first met him lol cheers:) |
Originally posted by muppetking Take their advice if it's so miserable!:D |
Originally posted by sundarize What? I am in my own country - England. Just saying its crap thats all cheers P.S - " outdoor life, BBQ, walks, friends in the garden (everything thats impossible in the UK) " your profile - says it all really, no such thing as "impossible" - -lol ever been hiking across parts of the Brecon beacons? - beautiful. You're a sad case aye. Ever wonder why the sas train in Wales? ( no smart comments please). And I won't even go into the rest of your statement. If you enjoyed walking and outdoor life - there are plenty of places in the UK to do this. |
Originally posted by Ceri You can't compare Swansea and South wales to North Wales employment wise , North Wales is a beautiful place, but it sadly lacks in employment, plenty of places are like this, beautiful but employment is bad, same can be said about parts of Aus too. Swansea is industrialised, major industries, it's Wales' second capital city - not to say there is no unemployment like every where else of course. The areas I have mentioned are all within driving distance to major employment. Mumbles is right next to swansea city,a 10 min drive, Penclawdd (crofty) is only say half an hour drive to the major industrial area (fforestfach) - Llangennith is about three quarters of an hour drive. I'm trying to think of the driving times, how long it used to take me to drive to places. - these are estimates, it's ages since I've drove back home. - now if I had mentioned some other areas within Swansea county and the surrounding areas - like 35 to 50 grand for a house , especially Neath way and beyond- yes you get what you pay for. It is cheap as chips in some areas. P.S Taffyles - I'm hoping to go home within the next two years. It's just one thing after another that's stopping us - two years ago I would have said the same, but I'm still here in Aus - We've a lot tied up here, work, buildiing a house etc etc. - I wish I could drop everything and run to the hills :), but two years I'd say - have to go home anyway for "family reasons" Didn't want to mention the "history thing about Wales and why some welsh people will tell you to F off" maybe it's got something to do with that union Jack :D, don't get me started - lol. My hubby usually get's a ear bashing about this - funny considering he has two Welsh parents, so in a way he's more welsh than I can ever be - he believes in a united kingdom, I don't - I believe in Independence, chalk and cheese :D - he's a dear though, I'm sure he's half deaf! funny he wasn't when I first met him lol cheers:) LOL We'll have to agree to disagree on the UK stuff :) I'm a unionist like your hubby- I still haven't forgiven Blair for devolution! But I admit I may have been wrong on that issue- the Welsh Assembly has done some good and isn't quite the waste of tax payers money I thought it might be. Welsh students are far better off than English ones :-). Don't get me wrong I'm Welsh to the core and would have been out there on the front line with the men defending my country in days gone by, but I believe in a United Kingdom in this day and age- Welsh Heart but British head is how I put it LOL. My hubby is a geordie, although he adores it in Wales, my two sons were born in Scotland and very proud of that, and my daughter born in Redditch, Worcs so the home internationals are interesting for our family, hehe . It always came in handy to have an English husband when Wales were playing in Cardiff- he got the job of watching the kids whilst I went off to the match with my Dad LOL Know what you mean about delays in things happening to stop you going home- life gets in the way. I'm thinking of changing jobs after my daughter's wedding next month, so will take time out and go home for a month, before getting back into the work work work routine here in US --I need a dose of Wales badly! How do you cope with homesickness when it hits? I usually put a CD on of the Morriston Orpheus and sing along at the top of my lungs- ahhh that feels better. Especially after a day dealing with the idiots at work. I once heard Dudley Moore saying when he lived in CA, that when he got homesick he'd put on a tape of Chariots of Fire have a good cry and he'd be okay again. What do all you other Brits do? |
Originally posted by Taffyles yes, North Wales isn't th4e place to go looking for work- the industrial South Wales is the place for jobs. Swansea is known as the graveyard of ambition- because anyone who relocates to work there doesn't want to leave LOL. Ceri I can make it from Swansea market to Llangennith in 30 mins- usually the roads are empty once you get out of town. LOL We'll have to agree to disagree on the UK stuff :) I'm a unionist like your hubby- I still haven't forgiven Blair for devolution! But I admit I may have been wrong on that issue- the Welsh Assembly has done some good and isn't quite the waste of tax payers money I thought it might be. Welsh students are far better off than English ones :-). Don't get me wrong I'm Welsh to the core and would have been out there on the front line with the men defending my country. My hubby is a geordie, although he adores it in Wales, my two sons were born in Scotland and very proud of that, and my daughter born in Redditch, Worcs so the home internationals are interesting for our family LOL. it always came in handy to have an English husband when Wales were playing in Cardiff- he got the job of watching the kids whilst I went to the game with my Dad LOL Know what you mean about delays in things happening to stop you going home- life gets in the way. I'm thinking of changing jobs after my daughter's wedding next month, so will take time out and go home for a month, before getting back into the work work work routine here in US --I need a dose of Wales badly! Dylan Thomas - your top statement- try and rent/buy that film "Twin Town" I think you may enjoy it. cheers:) P.s I'm feeling homesick now! must try and have a holiday back there soon. Geeze my spelling is getting worse! I keep having to edit my statements - correcting my spelling "I actually wrote Here instead of hear" typing to fast! - that's my excuse anyway |
Originally posted by Ceri Have to disagree on that one then - did you hear about the last census - you had to tick the English or "other" box - upset a lot of welsh people - "independent Wales" took a lot of census papers in a coffin to no 10 - the other lot stuck a welsh flag sticker over the box on the census paper -lol Dylan Thomas - your top statement- try and rent/buy that film "Twin Town" I think you may enjoy it. cheers:) P.s I'm feeling homesick now! must try and have a holiday back there soon. Geeze my spelling is getting worse! I keep having to edit my statements - correcting my spelling "I actually wrote Here instead of hear" typing to fast! - that's my excuse anyway You must be online now- I've edited my post since you've replied to it LOL yeah I type fast too- but you'd think I'd have learnt to prrof read before I hit the button instead of after. Oh I may be a Unionist, but I'll fight like hell for a fair deal for Wales make no mistake. Yep I heard about the Census, but the Welsh are quietly restoring a lot of what has been taken away from them in the past....and its better done within the Union I think than a complete break. Our culture is pretty much intact when compared to Scotland and Ireland, who have been a lot more angry and violent about things. Energy is best put into ensuring the language and culture survives regardless instead of fighting. When people were punished for speaking Welsh in public, years ago- they gathered on the mountains to speak it, the language has survived. Although my grandmother said she spent half her school life with one of those boards hung round her neck for speaking Welsh in school. To the day she died, if there was anyone English near her she would only speak in Welsh. :) |
someone mentioned the friendliness of people here. haha I laugh in your general direction.
its fair enuf to return to blighty, but don't idealise it. remember how you felt when you left? or do you have a selective memory :D |
Originally posted by ontheball someone mentioned the friendliness of people here. haha I laugh in your general direction. its fair enuf to return to blighty, but don't idealise it. remember how you felt when you left? or do you have a selective memory :D can't speak for anyone else but I have a pretty good recollection of what blighty is like....managed to get back three times in last 15 months and had a blast everytime. Not idealising it, just recognition that generally my life/standard of living in UK was very good |
Originally posted by Taffyles Yes, North Wales isn't the place to go looking for work- the industrial South Wales is the place for jobs. It sure is beautiful up there, with its picturesque landscape- idyllic, (althought the weather is better down South) but the biggest industry is tourism. Swansea is known as the graveyard of ambition- because anyone who relocates to work there doesn't want to leave LOL. Ceri I can make it from Swansea market to Llangennith in 30 mins- usually the roads are empty once you get out of town. LOL We'll have to agree to disagree on the UK stuff :) I'm a unionist like your hubby- I still haven't forgiven Blair for devolution! But I admit I may have been wrong on that issue- the Welsh Assembly has done some good and isn't quite the waste of tax payers money I thought it might be. Welsh students are far better off than English ones :-). Don't get me wrong I'm Welsh to the core and would have been out there on the front line with the men defending my country in days gone by, but I believe in a United Kingdom in this day and age- Welsh Heart but British head is how I put it LOL. My hubby is a geordie, although he adores it in Wales, my two sons were born in Scotland and very proud of that, and my daughter born in Redditch, Worcs so the home internationals are interesting for our family, hehe . It always came in handy to have an English husband when Wales were playing in Cardiff- he got the job of watching the kids whilst I went off to the match with my Dad LOL Know what you mean about delays in things happening to stop you going home- life gets in the way. I'm thinking of changing jobs after my daughter's wedding next month, so will take time out and go home for a month, before getting back into the work work work routine here in US --I need a dose of Wales badly! How do you cope with homesickness when it hits? I usually put a CD on of the Morriston Orpheus and sing along at the top of my lungs- ahhh that feels better. Especially after a day dealing with the idiots at work. I once heard Dudley Moore saying when he lived in CA, that when he got homesick he'd put on a tape of Chariots of Fire have a good cry and he'd be okay again. What do all you other Brits do? do you mind if I add my two-punce worth into your dialogue? Bit cheeky as I'm not welsh but... I've already said this on another posting but i was born in england, though my mums side of the family is scottish. Consider myself to be both english and british, whilst I'm sure if you asked my mum she would say she was both scottish and british...being british doesn't make her or the rest of her family any less scottish, its just a different aspect of their nationality (in a similar way me being english/british are different aspects of who I consider myself to be). Personally would hate to see scots/welsh go their seperate ways, consider that we're all stronger together (same as my mum) ...anyway..sorry for interupting here....:D |
Originally posted by AndrewR do you mind if I add my two-punce worth into your dialogue? Bit cheeky as I'm not welsh but... I've already said this on another posting but i was born in england, though my mums side of the family is scottish. Consider myself to be both english and british, whilst I'm sure if you asked my mum she would say she was both scottish and british...being british doesn't make her or the rest of her family any less scottish, its just a different aspect of their nationality (in a similar way me being english/british are different aspects of who I consider myself to be). Personally would hate to see scots/welsh go their seperate ways, consider that we're all stronger together (same as my mum) ...anyway..sorry for interupting here....:D No I don't mind Andrew, although I'm not sure if your question was directed to myself or Taffyles. Each to their own - everyone has a different view. Hubby would agree with you by the way. But I have a different outlook. Although I would call myself British second - I would dearly love Wales to have independence - for a lot of reasons - too many to go into, I'd have to write an essay on it. Politically Wales is not a country like Scotland - which is a joke in itself as it is a country. I would rather see Wales governed from Wales - the assembly is a bit of the way there , but not enough. cheers :) |
Originally posted by ontheball someone mentioned the friendliness of people here. haha I laugh in your general direction. its fair enuf to return to blighty, but don't idealise it. remember how you felt when you left? or do you have a selective memory :D Hi ontheball I'm not idealising it and I remember exactly how I felt when I left- very sad, although I buckled down here and made the best of it, always game for an adventure LOL. I wasn't one of those who left Britain cos I hated it ( I think that's a relatively recent thing I'm hearing from ex-pats) people work abroad for many reasons- I was enjoying a very good life in UK and our kids were in exellent schools. My hubby was sent out here by a British firm and it took 18 months, and four fact finding holidays, before I made the decision to uproot the kids and join him LOL. We'd done the living in another country bit years before, so I had no rosy images of living in the US. We have a very good life here too- I can enjoy myself where-ever I am, but it aint home- never will be and I'm not ending my days here. Been home on visits and the best thing about living in Florida- near the Mouse- is that our family and friends come out often to stay with us too. But I never meant to live here for ever! I really believe that the 'quality' of life is much better in UK. |
Originally posted by AndrewR do you mind if I add my two-punce worth into your dialogue? Bit cheeky as I'm not welsh but... I've already said this on another posting but i was born in england, though my mums side of the family is scottish. Consider myself to be both english and british, whilst I'm sure if you asked my mum she would say she was both scottish and british...being british doesn't make her or the rest of her family any less scottish, its just a different aspect of their nationality (in a similar way me being english/british are different aspects of who I consider myself to be). Personally would hate to see scots/welsh go their seperate ways, consider that we're all stronger together (same as my mum) ...anyway..sorry for interupting here....:D |
Originally posted by Ceri If you think Cardiff belongs to England - you really do deserve to be told to F off by two little old dears - good on em' cheers P.S - " outdoor life, BBQ, walks, friends in the garden (everything thats impossible in the UK) " your profile - says it all really, no such thing as "impossible" - -lol ever been hiking across parts of the Brecon beacons? - beautiful. You're a sad case aye. Ever wonder why the sas train in Wales? ( no smart comments please). And I won't even go into the rest of your statement. If you enjoyed walking and outdoor life - there are plenty of places in the UK to do this. The two old ladies were absolutely real - they must have been in their 80's and I can honestly say I was perfectly polite to them. I simply could not believe my ears. |
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