Ping pong pom
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Re: Ping pong pom
I think you must have picked a really crap area to move back too, there are good and bad parts to every country. Have you thought of just moving within the UK before putting out the expense to move countries all over again?
What were your reasons for moving back? Weren't you happy with your life in OZ/NZ the things that made you move haven't changed.
What were your reasons for moving back? Weren't you happy with your life in OZ/NZ the things that made you move haven't changed.
I think you'll find its one of the nicest parts of London.
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Surely it's fair enough. Coda is posting on MBTTUK because she moved back to the UK, and is sharing her experience. There is a tendency on this forum only to 'allow' good reports of the return - indeed to promote them - which distorts the reality of the collective experience of moving back to the UK and creates a very biased picture. Negative postings are often shot down unless they are expressed extremely sensitively. Not everyone is include to be so balanced, or untruthful. If the post was one slagging of the UK from someone who had moved away and never moved back, then fair enough - that is outside the scope of the forum. But Coda has in fact moved back to the UK. It sends a clear message to future disgruntled returnees "Don't rock our boat".
Indeed, under the link for this forum it states:
"Moving back to the UK after a long spell abroad can be very daunting. Share your experiences or ask a question."
I appreciate negative reports can be uncomfortable for some thinking about returning, but perhaps they can provide a little balance too, or maybe even help prevent a very expensive mistake in some cases. Coda may be a fairly 'robust' in her criticisms of the UK, but she is just sharing her experience of moving back to the UK - the raison d'être of the forum.
Indeed, under the link for this forum it states:
"Moving back to the UK after a long spell abroad can be very daunting. Share your experiences or ask a question."
I appreciate negative reports can be uncomfortable for some thinking about returning, but perhaps they can provide a little balance too, or maybe even help prevent a very expensive mistake in some cases. Coda may be a fairly 'robust' in her criticisms of the UK, but she is just sharing her experience of moving back to the UK - the raison d'être of the forum.
Personally speaking, I don't understand why anyone has to create an excuse to leave any country by only leaving negative comments. I am British, I feel offended when someone hurts my country therefore I am going to defend it. I do not believe people here are so insecure or confused that they need to wrapping up in cotton wool by not hearing a balanced view. Coda did not give a balanced view, she gave England, based on living in London, a slating.
it's far more the case, that people on the forum disagree and do not accept her views because they can see the wider view while she is somewhat narrow and biased in her opinion.
Sorry Coda, just my own humble opinion having lived all over the UK.
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Re: Ping pong pom
Personally speaking, I don't understand why anyone has to create an excuse to leave any country by only leaving negative comments. I am British, I feel offended when someone hurts my country therefore I am going to defend it. I do not believe people here are so insecure or confused that they need to wrapping up in cotton wool by not hearing a balanced view. Coda did not give a balanced view, she gave England, based on living in London, a slating.
it's far more the case, that people on the forum disagree and do not accept her views because they can see the wider view while she is somewhat narrow and biased in her opinion.
Sorry Coda, just my own humble opinion having lived all over the UK.
it's far more the case, that people on the forum disagree and do not accept her views because they can see the wider view while she is somewhat narrow and biased in her opinion.
Sorry Coda, just my own humble opinion having lived all over the UK.
But on your point, Coda doesn't have to give a balanced view - a truthful one should be enough, even if it is just that person's experience. And it sure hit a few nerves. It was not what people want to hear, and it sounds like that that not OK.
Sadly there is very much a pack mentality on this forum - perhaps others too. I am just trying to expose some of the groupthink that goes on...as groupthink can be very damaging, even though it may feel like it helps while people are in it.
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Re: Ping pong pom
Personally speaking, I don't understand why anyone has to create an excuse to leave any country by only leaving negative comments. I am British, I feel offended when someone hurts my country therefore I am going to defend it. I do not believe people here are so insecure or confused that they need to wrapping up in cotton wool by not hearing a balanced view. Coda did not give a balanced view, she gave England, based on living in London, a slating.
it's far more the case, that people on the forum disagree and do not accept her views because they can see the wider view while she is somewhat narrow and biased in her opinion.
Sorry Coda, just my own humble opinion having lived all over the UK.
it's far more the case, that people on the forum disagree and do not accept her views because they can see the wider view while she is somewhat narrow and biased in her opinion.
Sorry Coda, just my own humble opinion having lived all over the UK.
Manchester
London
Blackpool
Nottingham
Luton
Blandford
St-Annes
Bournemouth
Highcliffe
Wendover
Aylesbury
New Milton
I think that allows me to comment on England as a whole given that there is a good cross section there - villages, towns, cities, North, Midlands, South etc.
I've been virtually all over the UK. Let's compare lists!
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Here's a list of places in the UK i've lived in - before I went to OZ.
Manchester
London
Blackpool
Nottingham
Luton
Blandford
St-Annes
Bournemouth
Highcliffe
Wendover
Aylesbury
New Milton
I think that allows me to comment on England as a whole given that there is a good cross section there - villages, towns, cities, North, Midlands, South etc.
I've been virtually all over the UK. Let's compare lists!
Manchester
London
Blackpool
Nottingham
Luton
Blandford
St-Annes
Bournemouth
Highcliffe
Wendover
Aylesbury
New Milton
I think that allows me to comment on England as a whole given that there is a good cross section there - villages, towns, cities, North, Midlands, South etc.
I've been virtually all over the UK. Let's compare lists!
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Re: Ping pong pom
Personally speaking, I don't understand why anyone has to create an excuse to leave any country by only leaving negative comments. I am British, I feel offended when someone hurts my country therefore I am going to defend it. I do not believe people here are so insecure or confused that they need to wrapping up in cotton wool by not hearing a balanced view. Coda did not give a balanced view, she gave England, based on living in London, a slating.
it's far more the case, that people on the forum disagree and do not accept her views because they can see the wider view while she is somewhat narrow and biased in her opinion.
Sorry Coda, just my own humble opinion having lived all over the UK.
it's far more the case, that people on the forum disagree and do not accept her views because they can see the wider view while she is somewhat narrow and biased in her opinion.
Sorry Coda, just my own humble opinion having lived all over the UK.
I'm just asking questions...I am a passionate believer in free speech for all angles but have seen this replayed in this forum in particular for years.
I respect your views a lot by the way.
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Re: Ping pong pom
Here's a list of places in the UK i've lived in - before I went to OZ.
Manchester
London
Blackpool
Nottingham
Luton
Blandford
St-Annes
Bournemouth
Highcliffe
Wendover
Aylesbury
New Milton
I think that allows me to comment on England as a whole given that there is a good cross section there - villages, towns, cities, North, Midlands, South etc.
I've been virtually all over the UK. Let's compare lists!
Manchester
London
Blackpool
Nottingham
Luton
Blandford
St-Annes
Bournemouth
Highcliffe
Wendover
Aylesbury
New Milton
I think that allows me to comment on England as a whole given that there is a good cross section there - villages, towns, cities, North, Midlands, South etc.
I've been virtually all over the UK. Let's compare lists!
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Re: Ping pong pom
Anyhow, im over this thread. Later peeps
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[QUOTE=Coda;7301183]Here's a list of places in the UK i've lived in - before I went to OZ.
Manchester: Its ok I suppose, if you like Coronation Street and Man.Utd
London: Very nice place....One of my favs
Blackpool: Good for drag queen shows
Nottingham: Its got Sherwood Forest with Robin and his merry men.
Luton: Shit-hole
Blandford: Don`t know it
St-Annes: Don`t Know it
Bournemouth: mmmmmm Very posh and nice and near the sea side.
Highcliffe: Don`t know it
Wendover: Sounds like it would be nice, is it near Dover?
Aylesbury: Its in Bucks therefore probably nice
New Milton: Don`t know it, its not like Milton Keynes is it?
Manchester: Its ok I suppose, if you like Coronation Street and Man.Utd
London: Very nice place....One of my favs
Blackpool: Good for drag queen shows
Nottingham: Its got Sherwood Forest with Robin and his merry men.
Luton: Shit-hole
Blandford: Don`t know it
St-Annes: Don`t Know it
Bournemouth: mmmmmm Very posh and nice and near the sea side.
Highcliffe: Don`t know it
Wendover: Sounds like it would be nice, is it near Dover?
Aylesbury: Its in Bucks therefore probably nice
New Milton: Don`t know it, its not like Milton Keynes is it?
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Re: Ping pong pom
Well we've both lived in Manchester and Bournemouth. I must say, being Mancunian, moving to Bournemouth was like moving to another country. Sadly it is no longer the place it was even 10 years ago. I felt safer in Manchester out at night! Some of the other places on your list sound pretty posh to a commoner such as mah self. Except Blandford...which is not a good name for any town. But surely there are some good places among that little lot - I know not all my haunts have been dire, at least before my arrival. I am very fond of several villages I have visited or lived in, and some cities. Still, I share your misgivings about the state of the nation.
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Re: Ping pong pom
[QUOTE=Jules Europe;7301208]
Here's a list of places in the UK i've lived in - before I went to OZ.
Manchester: Its ok I suppose, if you like Coronation Street and Man.Utd Ay, it's &%$@in' boss lad.
London: Very nice place....One of my favs No. The last time I went there were two human poos within 10-15 metres of one another...on the pavement.
Blackpool: Good for drag queen shows And nothing else.
Nottingham: Its got Sherwood Forest with Robin and his merry men. Scary city.
Luton: Shit-hole Agreed. Been two many times (more than once). Torture.
Blandford: Don`t know it Can't get past the name.
St-Annes: Don`t Know it Posh for Northerners...I think it's near Blackpool
Bournemouth: mmmmmm Very posh and nice and near the sea side. No, it's not. Not any more. Well, it's still by the sea. Or it was. Maybe it's under water now what with climate change and all that.
Highcliffe: Don`t know it It is in Dorset. I think I have been there and I think it was nice. EDIT: Actually it is very nice - one of my favourite places in the UK. Well worth a visit - lovely castle and cliff-top walks.
Wendover: Sounds like it would be nice, is it near Dover?
Aylesbury: Its in Bucks therefore probably nice
New Milton: Don`t know it, its not like Milton Keynes is it? New Forest, by the sea. Nice but a locals' area. And a very white area.
Manchester: Its ok I suppose, if you like Coronation Street and Man.Utd Ay, it's &%$@in' boss lad.
London: Very nice place....One of my favs No. The last time I went there were two human poos within 10-15 metres of one another...on the pavement.
Blackpool: Good for drag queen shows And nothing else.
Nottingham: Its got Sherwood Forest with Robin and his merry men. Scary city.
Luton: Shit-hole Agreed. Been two many times (more than once). Torture.
Blandford: Don`t know it Can't get past the name.
St-Annes: Don`t Know it Posh for Northerners...I think it's near Blackpool
Bournemouth: mmmmmm Very posh and nice and near the sea side. No, it's not. Not any more. Well, it's still by the sea. Or it was. Maybe it's under water now what with climate change and all that.
Highcliffe: Don`t know it It is in Dorset. I think I have been there and I think it was nice. EDIT: Actually it is very nice - one of my favourite places in the UK. Well worth a visit - lovely castle and cliff-top walks.
Wendover: Sounds like it would be nice, is it near Dover?
Aylesbury: Its in Bucks therefore probably nice
New Milton: Don`t know it, its not like Milton Keynes is it? New Forest, by the sea. Nice but a locals' area. And a very white area.
Last edited by highersights; Feb 19th 2009 at 11:08 am. Reason: I remembered about Highcliffe.