Ok I'm sorry.
I'm getting so confused with this all.I will check again.

Ok,I have printed that one off.Is that all I need for the vet and the British side ?

your vet needs to fill out those forms when your pet gets each procedure ....chip,blood test ect

Hi Bonny,
Are you on the right road now as you appear to be getting good suppport?
There are other avenues that you can double check your facts as; [email protected]. I hope that link is correct. Also the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA).. web site www.inspection.gc.ca. National export office; Tel:631-225-2342. Furthermore you could aways doubly check your info with you U.K. vet who did the paperwork outward bound (although I'm assuming here that you did not buy the dog in Canada), and your airlines. I have an e-mail address for Air Canada-Manager-live programes-worldwide to further clarify if needed.
If you are still unsure, I can type all the info I have, but I don't want to reiterate or duplicate what you already know.
Me thinks you love your dog very much, and I don't think you will get it wrong! Anyhow off to sort me puppy's out...need a dose of puppy breath!
Best regards.

Hi Bonny,
Had my fix of puppy breath, and just wanted to reassure you that I know you have cats, and not dogs!!!!
Sorry, but I had dogs on my mind at the time I was replying to you! Puppy breath gets me every time!
If it's any consolation the same critera is applicable. Well apart from the obvious like crate sizes, and fur balls!
We have 4 cats as well (well if I'm honest 3 1/2 (Stumpy only has 3 legs)!
So in conclusion me thinks you loves your cats very much (as well as the imaginery dog I gave you)!
Anyhow links are the same for dogs, cats, and all the other critters I have.
Off to bed now, I've made amends!
Best Regards.

Hi Sunshine Girl,
Thanks so much for the help you have given me,I will sit down this weekend and go through it all.
I think I'm starting to get it now ,thank god..
Have a nice day

So does this mean the dog can't leave your property abroard for all the time its doing his home quarentine? of is it just the number of months since the jab thats important?

it's just a time thing......has to be 6 months from the time it gets the rabies shot........although if it is only 4 months then the dog will have to do 2 months quaranteen in the UK

Another question:- they both had rabies shots in england before coming here, will they still need to get more done out here or will some proof of the UK jabs do?

no they will have to get them there 1 month after you get them microchipped........do you have the forms you need?

No not yet, we've got ages before we can leave yet so no hurry.

Don't forget that you will also need to have your pet treated for ticks and tapeworm 24/48 hours prior to departure. I think this is the case for dogs going to the UK, not so sure about cats.

You can always email or telephone the people at DEFRA ... they are very helpful. Further, you may well find that whoever you are flying with may provide you with fact sheets as to what is required.

I've never heard of dogs being quarantined at home? I think what the poster meant was that if your pet has had the rabies jab, say, in November and you then return to England in March, that = approx 5 months. Thus, on arriving in England there is still one month remaining before the pet qualifies for release to you, and would have to spend that month in quarantine kennels. I think they call it 'early release' ... i.e. you have met the requirements of micro chipping, rabies jab and testing, etc., but have not waited out the full six months from the date the rabies jab was given to the date of departure.

I'm not sure about your specific question, however, I do know that if you cannot prove that your pet was micro chipped before receiving the rabies vaccine you will have to start the process from scratch. Your pet's micro chip number must also be detailed on the paperwork your vet gives you confirming the rabies vaccine and blood testing. Also, the rabies vaccine has to be given annually and if you are even one day late in that respect, you have to start the whole process over again.

It might be easier if you contact DEFRA direct, I'm sure they would be able to help you.

Hi Arkon - boy are you running into it! (pets and ankle-biter passports ), just remember you're keeping lots of civil servants in guaranteed pensions.

Last few posts have had errors in them (trust me I'm a UK qualified vet).

To fulfil Pet Travel Scheme (PETS) req.;

1. Microchip. (compulsory in Oz anyway?- check brand is readable by the DEFRA standard scanner [DEFRA site and your vet]) . If not done the chip can be implanted on the same day as

2. Rabies vaccination. (some vax brands req a 2nd shot [chk your vet for advice].

3. Blood sample - timing is not essential, though common period is one month post vax (I have had some pass after 3wks). QUARANTINE starts now (not at time of jab). Quarantine just means not leaving the qualifying country that you are in (the alpacas are safe from a stir crazy hound ) 'Quarantine' is a period of time NOT a place. (origin FR. 'quarante' for the 40day isolation of ships with Yellow Fever on board)

4. Your pet is allowed to (re-)enter the UK without entering Gov Quarantine kennels, 6 months after the date of the blood sample (again not the jab or the positive result). If you enter before this period then your pet will need to go into Q.kennels for the balance of the 6 month period.

5. Before you leave (48-24hrs) your pet will req. treatment for ecto- and endo-parasites [q.v. DEFRA for accepted substances (Oz has them frontline/drontal plus does the job)] - but if you are using a shipping company then they will probably sort all this out for you anyway.

6 Once back in the UK, if you want to get a Pet Passport (for day trips to France etc.), which puts all this info into one document go to a DEFRA local veterinary officer (ie 95% of us general practicing vets)
This passport is valid for as long as the advised booster interval of the rabies vaccine and whilst the vax are kept upto date (I think they have now stopped having to renew the passports at each booster (less form-filling for us)). Most uk vax are now 2 or 3 yearly boosters, but some countries (US CA apparently) req. yrly jabs, so although your passport is valid at a 2yr booster rate you may need to have yearly jabs to get INTO these countries. Most EU are now based on vax intervals not yearlies

Simple

Your situation throws up the odd spanner. Your chaps are already vax and if they were already chipped and there is documentary evidence of chip (no. and it being in place before the jabs) on the rabies vax cards/docs then you have already done parts 1&2, so blood sample and Bobs your paternal sibling.
UNLESS some bureaucratic eejit at DEFRA/AQIS or vet thinks (dangerous) about it - in which case you probably head back to step 1. 'just to be absolutely sure Mr Arkon, now that'll be lots and lots of cash please').

To counter this check with your vet that

1. your chip is acceptable
2. your rabies vax are up-to-date (they still should be after c.10-15mths?)
3. DEFRA don't want to be difficult and make you start again - your vet may help you chk with DEFRA - it's their licence to practice on the line if they lead you wrong.

Sorry this is getting way too long. Shall keep an eye on this thread so hollah for help people.

Really good luck A, I'm sorry Oz didn't work. Plenty of alpacas in the UK now, in fact if you want to buy some in the Somerset area.... Best wishes Gerry