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Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by another bloody yank
(Post 6485723)
I understand that their concern is for the welfare of the dog and that's great . . .
I've worked with a rescue group for about 15 years and I'm familiar with other rescue groups (all breed and breed) in the area. Some groups (and individuals) are (IMHO) WAY over the top in their requirements for pet ownership (guardianship). The group I work with has traditionally been less strict (for instance, we don't typically do a home visit -- though we reserve the right to request it as a condition of adoption) and some people think we're AWFUL for not doing that! I think there is pressure for our group to move in that direction, but I'm not sure it's doable because we don't have the volunteers to do the home visits. (Personally, I'm not convinced that doing a home visit guarantees a good home or a lifelong adoption.) The groups you're talking about must have a lot of volunteers and only adopt out a few animals a year. It would be an impossible task for our group to keep up with all the animals we've ever adopted. :blink: (However, if we HEAR about one of our animals being abused, we will check it out.) |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by SarahInTX
(Post 6486336)
Absolutely. The people who rescue and foster dogs and cats care deeply about where the animals are going to end up.
I've worked with a rescue group for about 15 years and I'm familiar with other rescue groups (all breed and breed) in the area. Some groups (and individuals) are (IMHO) WAY over the top in their requirements for pet ownership (guardianship). The group I work with has traditionally been less strict (for instance, we don't typically do a home visit -- though we reserve the right to request it as a condition of adoption) and some people think we're AWFUL for not doing that! I think there is pressure for our group to move in that direction, but I'm not sure it's doable because we don't have the volunteers to do the home visits. (Personally, I'm not convinced that doing a home visit guarantees a good home or a lifelong adoption.) The groups you're talking about must have a lot of volunteers and only adopt out a few animals a year. It would be an impossible task for our group to keep up with all the animals we've ever adopted. :blink: (However, if we HEAR about one of our animals being abused, we will check it out.) |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by SarahInTX
(Post 6486336)
Absolutely. The people who rescue and foster dogs and cats care deeply about where the animals are going to end up.
I've worked with a rescue group for about 15 years and I'm familiar with other rescue groups (all breed and breed) in the area. Some groups (and individuals) are (IMHO) WAY over the top in their requirements for pet ownership (guardianship). The group I work with has traditionally been less strict (for instance, we don't typically do a home visit -- though we reserve the right to request it as a condition of adoption) and some people think we're AWFUL for not doing that! I think there is pressure for our group to move in that direction, but I'm not sure it's doable because we don't have the volunteers to do the home visits. (Personally, I'm not convinced that doing a home visit guarantees a good home or a lifelong adoption.) The groups you're talking about must have a lot of volunteers and only adopt out a few animals a year. It would be an impossible task for our group to keep up with all the animals we've ever adopted. :blink: (However, if we HEAR about one of our animals being abused, we will check it out.) |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by mellybrown
(Post 6486416)
Ive just got off the phone to a lady at one of our local shelters - they do the whole background check thing which is fine, i was a bit wunny about them doing a home visit but she never mentioned it and really just wanted a chat about what we were looking for. However we want 1 kitten and they only adopt them out in pairs, she did however then point me in the direction of another shelter that does adopt out single kittens......I was quite impressed with her, and she gave me loads of info. In a way im quite glad I dont have to adopt from the pet shop mostly because I think its wrong they charge so much!! its $90 MORE to adopt from the petshop than from one of the shelters which is just crazy, they are not doing anything different!!! (plus they keep dogs in cages and thats just plain evil lol)
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Re: Pet Shops
There's only one pet store I've visited here - the Puppy Shoppe on route 1.
The dogs are treated beautifully, let out every day to play with customers and stay there as long as it takes to sell them. Just before everybody jumps on the 'outraged' band wagon... |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by EnglishRose84
(Post 6484135)
Not sure I really want to know the answer to this question but....
do the pet stores keep the puppies and kittens in those cages over night as well as all through out the day?? :confused: |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by Roland Hulme
(Post 6486506)
There's only one pet store I've visited here - the Puppy Shoppe on route 1.
The dogs are treated beautifully, let out every day to play with customers and stay there as long as it takes to sell them. Just before everybody jumps on the 'outraged' band wagon... |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by tamms_1965
(Post 6486511)
I know that one of the local pet shops in my town encourage the employees to take puppies home with them, esp. over Sunday night. The puppies all come from local breeders, also, not puppy mills. A few of my students work there and tell me stories about the puppies (and kittens) that they take home.
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Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by Roland Hulme
(Post 6486506)
There's only one pet store I've visited here - the Puppy Shoppe on route 1.
The dogs are treated beautifully, let out every day to play with customers and stay there as long as it takes to sell them. Just before everybody jumps on the 'outraged' band wagon... And the source for a lot of them is puppy mills, and they need to be shut down. Period. |
Re: Pet Shops
I think most pet shop sales of dogs or cats must be spur of the moment purchases and I'm sure the pet shop owners rely on this for their business. People who buy pets in this way usually have not thought through the real consequences of pet ownership - have I got the time to train it, what happens when I go to work, go on vacation, cost of vets fees etc etc At least with Animal Shelters there is a screening process and this gives potential new owners the chance to thing about whether a pet is a good idea. Same with buying from a reputable breeder, you usually have to wait on a list, then you can see the pups/kittens with their mother (and more importantly the temperament of the mother), pick one out and see what kind of environment the pup has come from.
A PET IS FOR LIFE NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS! (now where have I heard that before....Mmmmm) |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 6486520)
A good breeder does not sell puppies through a 3rd party...they don't have to they probably have a waiting list for them.
Many breeders are now breeding hybrids for pets. A lot of diehard dog breeders think this is horrible but others think it's fine for pets. You do not have to deal with papers and the dogs tend to be hardier than their respective parents' breeds usually are. (They don't have the defects that each breed exhibits due to a larger gene pool.) One of my hybrids was an accidental breeding. Due to certain circumstances her daughter's Yorkie got to her Maltese when breeder was out of town. Seems that Maltese went in to heat unexpectedly/early. |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by tamms_1965
(Post 6486561)
Actually, they do. The breeders I've known only breed to find the "perfect" show dog...the best of its breed. Unfortunately, they really do not want imperfect ones, as they are not looking for pets but trophies. The dogs that don't show champion qualities get voted off the island. Some breeders will actually give away these dogs without papers and if you agree not to breed them. That's how I got one of my toy poodles 20+ years ago.
Many breeders are now breeding hybrids for pets. A lot of diehard dog breeders think this is horrible but others think it's fine for pets. You do not have to deal with papers and the dogs tend to be hardier than their respective parents' breeds usually are. (They don't have the defects that each breed exhibits due to a larger gene pool.) One of my hybrids was an accidental breeding. Due to certain circumstances her daughter's Yorkie got to her Maltese when breeder was out of town. Seems that Maltese went in to heat unexpectedly/early. Every breeder I have bought a dog from have had absolutely no trouble in selling their dogs. They interview you to see if you're suitable to take one of their dogs. A good dog breeder will also take their dog back if your circumstances change and you can no longer look after the dog. |
Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by tamms_1965
(Post 6486561)
Many breeders are now breeding hybrids for pets. A lot of diehard dog breeders think this is horrible but others think it's fine for pets. You do not have to deal with papers and the dogs tend to be hardier than their respective parents' breeds usually are. (They don't have the defects that each breed exhibits due to a larger gene pool.)
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Re: Pet Shops
I'm going to start asking these rescue people if they have any breeds that are noticeably more tender than the others.
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Re: Pet Shops
Originally Posted by another bloody yank
(Post 6486626)
I'm going to start asking these rescue people if they have any breeds that are noticeably more tender than the others.
Probably not a good idea! :p |
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