Miss the UK. Need advice on moving back.
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Miss the UK. Need advice on moving back.
I wasn't born in the UK but I spent a significant portion of my childhood there, around 5 years, my earliest childhood memories are from there.
I have been missing it ever since, but now at 18 I miss it more than ever. I miss the places, the people, the culture, the nature, everything. It just feels like my home.
I've never had trouble fitting in, not for that reason atleast, but I just cant imagine myself spending the rest of my life here in Israel. It feels like a large piece of me was left behind.
I just want to go back, if not to live there than to atleast visit often for decent amounts of time but it seems impossible.
I don't know much about visas but from what I understand I dont qualify for one, even tho my grandparents on one side of the family are both born british and one of them currently lives there.
What should I do?
I have been missing it ever since, but now at 18 I miss it more than ever. I miss the places, the people, the culture, the nature, everything. It just feels like my home.
I've never had trouble fitting in, not for that reason atleast, but I just cant imagine myself spending the rest of my life here in Israel. It feels like a large piece of me was left behind.
I just want to go back, if not to live there than to atleast visit often for decent amounts of time but it seems impossible.
I don't know much about visas but from what I understand I dont qualify for one, even tho my grandparents on one side of the family are both born british and one of them currently lives there.
What should I do?
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Re: Miss the UK. Need advice on moving back.
Are you British? .... it sounds like you don't know, so we can try determine that for you, and I have a few questions.
Where were you born (that might determine on what visas are open to you if it turns out that you are not British).
Are your parents British (either one of them)? If they are British, where were they born (inside or outside the UK)? ....
We're either of your parents naturalized as a British citizen? Meaning, were they born "not British", but became British following application either by their own application or as part of an application by their parents.
This should help to find out if you are, in fact, British. For example, if either of your parents are British and they were born in the UK, then you already are British (British by descent, meaning born outside the UK to a parent who is "British other than by descent"). If your parents are British, but they were born outside the UK, then you are probably not British (though there are exceptions, especially if either of your parents were employed by the British government at the time you were born, e.g. they were in the military or employed at an embassy).
Where were you born (that might determine on what visas are open to you if it turns out that you are not British).
Are your parents British (either one of them)? If they are British, where were they born (inside or outside the UK)? ....
We're either of your parents naturalized as a British citizen? Meaning, were they born "not British", but became British following application either by their own application or as part of an application by their parents.
This should help to find out if you are, in fact, British. For example, if either of your parents are British and they were born in the UK, then you already are British (British by descent, meaning born outside the UK to a parent who is "British other than by descent"). If your parents are British, but they were born outside the UK, then you are probably not British (though there are exceptions, especially if either of your parents were employed by the British government at the time you were born, e.g. they were in the military or employed at an embassy).
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Re: Miss the UK. Need advice on moving back.
Are you British? .... it sounds like you don't know, so we can try determine that for you, and I have a few questions.
Where were you born (that might determine on what visas are open to you if it turns out that you are not British).
Are your parents British (either one of them)? If they are British, where were they born (inside or outside the UK)? ....
We're either of your parents naturalized as a British citizen? Meaning, were they born "not British", but became British following application either by their own application or as part of an application by their parents.
This should help to find out if you are, in fact, British. For example, if either of your parents are British and they were born in the UK, then you already are British (British by descent, meaning born outside the UK to a parent who is "British other than by descent"). If your parents are British, but they were born outside the UK, then you are probably not British (though there are exceptions, especially if either of your parents were employed by the British government at the time you were born, e.g. they were in the military or employed at an embassy).
Where were you born (that might determine on what visas are open to you if it turns out that you are not British).
Are your parents British (either one of them)? If they are British, where were they born (inside or outside the UK)? ....
We're either of your parents naturalized as a British citizen? Meaning, were they born "not British", but became British following application either by their own application or as part of an application by their parents.
This should help to find out if you are, in fact, British. For example, if either of your parents are British and they were born in the UK, then you already are British (British by descent, meaning born outside the UK to a parent who is "British other than by descent"). If your parents are British, but they were born outside the UK, then you are probably not British (though there are exceptions, especially if either of your parents were employed by the British government at the time you were born, e.g. they were in the military or employed at an embassy).
I was born in israel.
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You haven’t really answered Pulaski’s questions but it sounds like you’re probably not British.
You have access to the internet so I assume you’ve already researched visas and opportunities to study in the UK and are aware of the costs.
You’re only 18. My advice to you would be to choose a field that interests you with good prospects for the future and then work hard to become as well qualified as you possibly can.
Make yourself attractive enough to future employers and pretty much any country will open its doors to you.
You have access to the internet so I assume you’ve already researched visas and opportunities to study in the UK and are aware of the costs.
You’re only 18. My advice to you would be to choose a field that interests you with good prospects for the future and then work hard to become as well qualified as you possibly can.
Make yourself attractive enough to future employers and pretty much any country will open its doors to you.
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Re: Miss the UK. Need advice on moving back.
You haven’t really answered Pulaski’s questions but it sounds like you’re probably not British.
You have access to the internet so I assume you’ve already researched visas and opportunities to study in the UK and are aware of the costs.
You’re only 18. My advice to you would be to choose a field that interests you with good prospects for the future and then work hard to become as well qualified as you possibly can.
Make yourself attractive enough to future employers and pretty much any country will open its doors to you.
You have access to the internet so I assume you’ve already researched visas and opportunities to study in the UK and are aware of the costs.
You’re only 18. My advice to you would be to choose a field that interests you with good prospects for the future and then work hard to become as well qualified as you possibly can.
Make yourself attractive enough to future employers and pretty much any country will open its doors to you.
What does being qualified mean, what does it require? I dont really have any life experience around jobs or anything like that.
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I wasn't born in the UK but I spent a significant portion of my childhood there, around 5 years, my earliest childhood memories are from there.
I have been missing it ever since, but now at 18 I miss it more than ever. I miss the places, the people, the culture, the nature, everything. It just feels like my home.
I've never had trouble fitting in, not for that reason atleast, but I just cant imagine myself spending the rest of my life here in Israel. It feels like a large piece of me was left behind.
I just want to go back, if not to live there than to atleast visit often for decent amounts of time but it seems impossible.
I don't know much about visas but from what I understand I dont qualify for one, even tho my grandparents on one side of the family are both born british and one of them currently lives there.
What should I do?
I have been missing it ever since, but now at 18 I miss it more than ever. I miss the places, the people, the culture, the nature, everything. It just feels like my home.
I've never had trouble fitting in, not for that reason atleast, but I just cant imagine myself spending the rest of my life here in Israel. It feels like a large piece of me was left behind.
I just want to go back, if not to live there than to atleast visit often for decent amounts of time but it seems impossible.
I don't know much about visas but from what I understand I dont qualify for one, even tho my grandparents on one side of the family are both born british and one of them currently lives there.
What should I do?
Looks like you aren't British, but you have all the time in the world and nothing you do now will seal your fate forever and you don't have to make any final choices now.. If you aren't planning on university in Israel right now, you could save a bit of money with a job there and then maybe travel a little - a holiday in the UK for example. Take the time to work out why you want to be in the UK. Maybe you just feel like "getting away" as you become a young adult, which is totally understandable and normal. I was exactly the same way. The key thing here is that there is no rush and there are many things to explore without making a long-term commitment.
Good luck to you, enjoy life.
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You're 18 - the whole world is waiting for you.
Looks like you aren't British, but you have all the time in the world and nothing you do now will seal your fate forever and you don't have to make any final choices now.. If you aren't planning on university in Israel right now, you could save a bit of money with a job there and then maybe travel a little - a holiday in the UK for example. Take the time to work out why you want to be in the UK. Maybe you just feel like "getting away" as you become a young adult, which is totally understandable and normal. I was exactly the same way. The key thing here is that there is no rush and there are many things to explore without making a long-term commitment.
Good luck to you, enjoy life.
Looks like you aren't British, but you have all the time in the world and nothing you do now will seal your fate forever and you don't have to make any final choices now.. If you aren't planning on university in Israel right now, you could save a bit of money with a job there and then maybe travel a little - a holiday in the UK for example. Take the time to work out why you want to be in the UK. Maybe you just feel like "getting away" as you become a young adult, which is totally understandable and normal. I was exactly the same way. The key thing here is that there is no rush and there are many things to explore without making a long-term commitment.
Good luck to you, enjoy life.
I dont think its about getting away, I just feel like its where I belong, I miss so many things about it, and its not just my childhood that I miss but all those things that were a part of my life and define me as a person but are now gone.
Im not making any final decisions right now, I just know that I want a connection to the UK in my life. I don't necessarily want to live there but I dont want to take just one trip and forget about it.
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As you probably already know, Israeli citizens don’t even need a tourist visa to visit the UK. And you can stay up to 180 days.
So there’s nothing to stop you going there, other than possibly lack of funds.
So there’s nothing to stop you going there, other than possibly lack of funds.
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Thank you.
I dont think its about getting away, I just feel like its where I belong, I miss so many things about it, and its not just my childhood that I miss but all those things that were a part of my life and define me as a person but are now gone.
Im not making any final decisions right now, I just know that I want a connection to the UK in my life. I don't necessarily want to live there but I dont want to take just one trip and forget about it.
I dont think its about getting away, I just feel like its where I belong, I miss so many things about it, and its not just my childhood that I miss but all those things that were a part of my life and define me as a person but are now gone.
Im not making any final decisions right now, I just know that I want a connection to the UK in my life. I don't necessarily want to live there but I dont want to take just one trip and forget about it.
As Helen1964 says, if you can swing it, take the trip. It wouldn't be instead of, but in addition to any longer term plan you can make. In the meantime, scratch the itch and see what it feels like, and research what routes you might have longer term if citizenship isn't one of them. You aren't stuck, you just need a different plan. When were you last in the UK? Moving as a child, when you have no say in the matter, can be very dislocating irrespective of country.
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As Helen1964 says, if you can swing it, take the trip. It wouldn't be instead of, but in addition to any longer term plan you can make. In the meantime, scratch the itch and see what it feels like, and research what routes you might have longer term if citizenship isn't one of them. You aren't stuck, you just need a different plan. When were you last in the UK? Moving as a child, when you have no say in the matter, can be very dislocating irrespective of country.
I was in the UK approximately between the ages of 4 - 8.
I dont think I had trouble fitting in here in Israel at first, and in elementary school I was doing fine socially and all, but since highschool I have been dealing with pretty awful social anxiety and self esteem issues. I've never contributed it to moving countries tho, I blame it on bad parenting, which I think is what it is.
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I think when you grow up you’ll realize the world isn’t really interested in whom
we blame for our problems.
Do yourself a huge favour and instead of dwelling on past grievances, focus on what you can do now to get to where you want to be.
we blame for our problems.
Do yourself a huge favour and instead of dwelling on past grievances, focus on what you can do now to get to where you want to be.
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Thats what im doing. I used to resent my parents but now im just trying to focus on my own life and avoid them, even tho we live together still. It was a hard thing to do and im still not completely over it but im trying.
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You say you have grandparents who were 'born British' and one still lives in the UK. Where were your grandparents born and when?
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My parents were both born in Israel. My grandparents were born in the UK. Idk when exactly, they're both around 70 years old I think.
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Are your parents British (either one of them)? If they are British, where were they born (inside or outside the UK)?
Were either of your parents naturalized as a British citizen? Meaning, were they born "not British", but became British following application either by their own application or as part of an application by their parents. .... For example your grandparents could have immigrated to the UK taking your father (as a child) with them, and later the family naturalized as British citizens.
Were either of your parents naturalized as a British citizen? Meaning, were they born "not British", but became British following application either by their own application or as part of an application by their parents. .... For example your grandparents could have immigrated to the UK taking your father (as a child) with them, and later the family naturalized as British citizens.