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Old Sep 18th 2013 | 9:31 pm
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US Gun Culture (plus inability to provide health care for its citizens) is proof to me that the Former 13 Colonies have strayed from the righteous path !
 
Old Sep 18th 2013 | 9:40 pm
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I don't agree with the US gun laws, but I can't see how they can be repealed whilst there so many guns in circulation legal and illegal.

In most legal cases, apart from sport and law enforcement, they are purchased as a deterrent, an insurance if you like. In certain areas I would say that fear is irrational, in other areas I'd say it was sensible to be permitted to have a gun as a deterrent.
Even if you don't own a gun, an intruder does not know whether you do or not......... a deterrent. Now take that right to own a gun away from someone, say a blind person, then you make that person more vulnerable. An easier target.
I'm no criminal expert, but if I was an intruder and saw anyone with a gun in their hand, regardless of their disability, I'd be out of there.

My point about the links was to show that blind people can use a gun sensibly and are not going to be firing off a gun wildly at the slightest provocation.


As I say it's a deterrent.

BTW, being legally blind does not mean one is entirely without vision.

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I'm glad that the majority of the UK population do not feel the need to protect themselves in the same manner many US citizens do.
 
Old Sep 18th 2013 | 10:23 pm
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I don't agree with the US gun laws, but I can't see how they can be repealed whilst there so many guns in circulation legal and illegal.

In most legal cases, apart from sport and law enforcement, they are purchased as a deterrent, an insurance if you like. In certain areas I would say that fear is irrational, in other areas I'd say it was sensible to be permitted to have a gun as a deterrent.
Even if you don't own a gun, an intruder does not know whether you do or not......... a deterrent. Now take that right to own a gun away from someone, say a blind person, then you make that person more vulnerable. An easier target.
I'm no criminal expert, but if I was an intruder and saw anyone with a gun in their hand, regardless of their disability, I'd be out of there.

My point about the links was to show that blind people can use a gun sensibly and are not going to be firing off a gun wildly at the slightest provocation.


As I say it's a deterrent.

BTW, being legally blind does not mean one is entirely without vision.

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I'm glad that the majority of the UK population do not feel the need to protect themselves in the same manner many US citizens do.
What is worrying is that this kind of thinking is acceptable in the USA - and the USA thinks it's a country to be looked up to

The USA doesn't need to go to war - it's doing a great job letting people kill each other
 
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What is worrying is that this kind of thinking is acceptable in the USA - and the USA thinks it's a country to be looked up to

The USA doesn't need to go to war - it's doing a great job letting people kill each other
That is the bizarre thing, the US really does believe its own hype, it really believes the world looks at them through envious eyes.
 
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That is the bizarre thing, the US really does believe its own hype, it really believes the world looks at them through envious eyes.
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I heard on the news this morning that Tony Blair's daughter was robbed at gunpoint in London. Is that true?
 
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I'll ask her the next time we meet.
 
Old Sep 19th 2013 | 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by chris955
That is the bizarre thing, the US really does believe its own hype, it really believes the world looks at them through envious eyes.
The USA has always acted with well intention however history has shown they are not always right and they need to step back and learn.
 
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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter
The USA has always acted with well intention however history has shown they are not always right and they need to step back and learn.
I dont know if they have always acted with good intentions, they tend to jump in with both feet and no direction or plan.
 
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Originally Posted by Mallory
I heard on the news this morning that Tony Blair's daughter was robbed at gunpoint in London. Is that true?
Yes it is, happens everywhere unfortunately but fortunately gun crime is still extremely low compared to many countries.
 
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Even if you don't own a gun, an intruder does not know whether you do or not......... a deterrent.
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I'm no criminal expert, but if I was an intruder and saw anyone with a gun in their hand, regardless of their disability, I'd be out of there.
What actually happens is that everything just escalates. The intruder is equally fearful that the home owner may be armed and so carries a gun too and what would have been a robbery (bad enough) all to easily becomes murder.

On top of that, every year you have hundreds of men, women and children killed accidentally by the guns they purchased to protect themselves.

The UK response to the dreadful shooting at a school in Dunblane, Scotland was to ban handguns. The US response to the Newtown, CT tragedy was to refuse to pass even the most minimal and commonsense gun legislation and for the NRA to suggest that teachers should carry guns and that, even as schools everywhere struggle with low education budgets, huge amounts of money should spent on armed security guards for every school.
 
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On top of that, every year you have hundreds of men, women and children killed accidentally by the guns they purchased to protect themselves.

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Exactly, the main discussion on the Jeremy Vine Show, was about the number of children killed/injured by guns. Very sad indeed.
 
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Originally Posted by NiHao
What actually happens is that everything just escalates. The intruder is equally fearful that the home owner may be armed and so carries a gun too and what would have been a robbery (bad enough) all to easily becomes murder.

On top of that, every year you have hundreds of men, women and children killed accidentally by the guns they purchased to protect themselves.

The UK response to the dreadful shooting at a school in Dunblane, Scotland was to ban handguns. The US response to the Newtown, CT tragedy was to refuse to pass even the most minimal and commonsense gun legislation and for the NRA to suggest that teachers should carry guns and that, even as schools everywhere struggle with low education budgets, huge amounts of money should spent on armed security guards for every school.
Absolutely and still the NRA will not admit to their being an enormous gun problem because they support and are supported by the huge gun manufacturers in the country. While they sit back with their heads in the sand more and more innocent people die.
 
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.....While they sit back with their heads in the sand
or snouts in the trough.
 


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