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Old Sep 18th 2013 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser
You do have to meet certain criteria though, which varies from state to state and also the type of gun.

I'm sure there's a cooling off period in most states.
Only for short arms...but depending on the state, you can just get one privately, without any background checks.

It's places like that which leads to a lot of legal guns ending up in the hands of criminals, usually get a druggie who doesn't have a record to go get a gun and bring it back for drugs, sort of thing.
 
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Originally Posted by lf1
It was mentioned that the state of Iowa has just legalised gun use for blind people. Is it just me?
No, not just you....... I'm still trying to work that one out
 
Old Sep 18th 2013 | 1:25 pm
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No, not just you....... I'm still trying to work that one out
Actually, having watched how blind people can pin point noise with a certain amount of accuracy it's not as ridiculous as it sounds.
 
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Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser
Actually, having watched how blind people can pin point noise with a certain amount of accuracy it's not as ridiculous as it sounds.
So as long as the person is saying, "I'm the baddie" we're OK.
 
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So as long as the person is saying, "I'm the baddie" we're OK.
Silly.
 
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Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser
Silly.
What noise are they supposed to be shooting at? Your post was pretty silly.

Everybody panics in a shooting situation, even trained soldiers and police.
 
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No they don't..........from the UK..........

http://www.disabledshooting.org.uk/g...-shooting.html


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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
What noise are they supposed to be shooting at?
I said they could pinpoint noise, whether that noise was alien to them and how they reacted to it is more important than the noise itself.

What if a blind woman is being raped?

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Everybody panics in a shooting situation, even trained soldiers and police.
Then should we disarm the police and soldiers? Now that would be silly.

My point is to dismiss the right ( and I'm talking US now ) for a blind person to have a gun is not as ridiculous as it first sounds and certainly not a case for ridicule of those who are impaired.
 
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FWIW, I've only ever witnessed one gun crime and that was in the UK. Having said that there is no way that the UK has a gun crime problem that comes anywhere near that of the USA.
 
Old Sep 18th 2013 | 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser
I said they could pinpoint noise, whether that noise was alien to them and how they reacted to it is more important than the noise itself.

What if a blind woman is being raped?



Then should we disarm the police and soldiers? Now that would be silly.

My point is to dismiss the right ( and I'm talking US now ) for a blind person to have a gun is not as ridiculous as it first sounds and certainly not a case for ridicule of those who are impaired.
Well.....not sure I should have started this.....however.....those of us who lived in Northern Ireland in the early seventies were quite accustomed to hearing gunshots. We lived in the border town of Newry 1971 - 1972. We had to take our baby son out of his bedroom and into a windowless corridor many times in the doctors' flats. When we arrived in Florida for a week to visit my aunt and uncle before moving to Dallas.......someone let off firecrackers....we both fell to the ground and covering our son with our bodies.....people thought it was comical. It was not for us. I still hate fireworks or any loud noise.
 
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I don't think you can compare blind target shooting with giving concealed carry permits to visually impaired (if thats what Iowa have done?)

My nephew was discharged from the British Army following serious head injury which left him blind in one eye, and only very restricted vision in the other. He misses the Army like hell, and used to love shooting, so I took him to the shooting range when he visited last year. He did OK, but he would be the first to say that there is no way he should be allowed to carry a gun for self defense...target identification on a range is very different to target identification in a live shooter situation. And the consequences of getting it wrong are significantly different, too....
 
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I don't think you can compare blind target shooting with giving concealed carry permits to visually impaired (if thats what Iowa have done?)

My nephew was discharged from the British Army following serious head injury which left him blind in one eye, and only very restricted vision in the other. He misses the Army like hell, and used to love shooting, so I took him to the shooting range when he visited last year. He did OK, but he would be the first to say that there is no way he should be allowed to carry a gun for self defense...target identification on a range is very different to target identification in a live shooter situation. And the consequences of getting it wrong are significantly different, too....
Yes agreed.
The capacity to pinpoint noise with unerring accuracy is also noted. My friend is blind, and had to pull me out of the way when we heard a car really speeding. I insisted it was coming from the left; he insisted it was coming from the right. He was correct of course.

Having said that, there are enough problems with sighted eejits and their weapons without giving guns to the unsighted.

.......it poses a personal problem for me. If Customs tightens up then I will never get my AK47 through, even though I painted it pink.

Problems, problems.
 
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Originally Posted by lf1
The gun madness in the US continues. Following the most recent mass shooting incident, there was an item about gun use in the US on The Jeremy Vine Show yesterday. It was mentioned that the state of Iowa has just legalised gun use for blind people. Is it just me?
No it certainly isnt just you, it is insanity but it fits in well with all the other gun related insanity in the States.
 
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Originally Posted by Bob
Only for short arms...but depending on the state, you can just get one privately, without any background checks.

It's places like that which leads to a lot of legal guns ending up in the hands of criminals, usually get a druggie who doesn't have a record to go get a gun and bring it back for drugs, sort of thing.
Holy shit
 
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The gun situation in the States is totally out of control, my feeling is there is no turning back as there are just too many influential gun nuts that wont allow change.
 


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