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PADDAD Mar 26th 2006 11:56 am

Re: Going back? 50/50
 
:confused:

lostpom Mar 26th 2006 12:05 pm

Re: Going back? 50/50
 

Originally Posted by PADDAD
:confused:

mmhhh....interviewing yourself ???

Why not just call it a blog like everyone else !!
:)

PADDAD Mar 26th 2006 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by lostpom
mmhhh....interviewing yourself ???

Why not just call it a blog like everyone else !!
:)


I can see that it's 'thatnotquiteright' interviewing himself but I am trying to understand why Kendodd referenced it to me?

chance to be Mar 26th 2006 12:22 pm

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Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. ........
good luck

dear badge
i respect your quote and am glad you are where you want to be....BUT the real problem i have with threads like this is.....You try somewhere, you prefer the previous place, so having made an infromed choice by trying out 2 countries you decide where you want to live. What is so hard for people like yourself who prefer the 2nd country to understand? :confused:

threads like this insinuate that the person who has not embraced the 2nd country either a) lack social skills, b) dont try hard enough or c) are just missing the point. i dont believe i fit into any of these. i have a good social network, good job, nice area etc - but its just not where i would prefer to be long term. it really is that simple :rolleyes:

when i was in the uk, a portugese woman came over and as i was soon to be an immigrant myself, i befriended her and tried to make her feel welcome. Anyway, she decided that she was homesick and wanted to go back to Portugal after about 6mnths. I just said "good for you" It wouldnt of occured to me to say "oh but its more laid back, friendly, better economy, weather etc here" What right have i got to judge her reasons when the biggest reason she has is the history she has with somewhere???

We all come hoping we want to be here long term. If we dont - its no failing on us, rather the arrogance/unacceptance from others who have done well makes you realise more that you are a square peg in a round hole.

i am very pleased that you have embraced your new way of life. I hoped i would, but i havent. why I should try harder to at the expense of loosing my personality/identity that defines me is incomprehensable.

blowers Mar 26th 2006 12:35 pm

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Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.

I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy."

The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag.

If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way.

I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back.




good luck

Humility does not seem to be coming very naturally to you, so perhaps there is still something you can work on.

Exile Mar 26th 2006 12:36 pm

Re: Going back? 50/50
 

Originally Posted by PADDAD
I can see that it's 'thatnotquiteright' interviewing himself but I am trying to understand why Kendodd referenced it to me?

I think she was just trying to fill you in on a bit of background.

PADDAD Mar 26th 2006 12:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Exile
I think she was just trying to fill you in on a bit of background.

Thanks :)

We all have backgrounds, some more interesting than others :rolleyes: Is badger's background supposed to justify his self righteous and condescending post? I found his tone offensive :(

Exile Mar 26th 2006 12:57 pm

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Originally Posted by PADDAD
Thanks :)

We all have backgrounds, some more interesting than others :rolleyes: Is badger's background supposed to justify his self righteous and condescending post? I found his tone offensive :(

You're not alone, and I think Kendodd probably agrees with you too and posted the link as another example of a cringeworthy post from the same person. (Please correct me Ken if I'm wrong).

It's refreshing to see people responding on the basis of what's said in the post, rather than on the reputation and support base of the poster.

woodyinoz Mar 26th 2006 1:00 pm

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Originally Posted by PADDAD
Thanks :)

We all have backgrounds, some more interesting than others :rolleyes: Is badger's background supposed to justify his self righteous and condescending post? I found his tone offensive :(

I can't understand why he would post the way he does on the moving back to UK forum unless he is confused about his own feelings and to scared to admit them or just stirring the pot.(the later me thinks)

I know my mind and hearing his attitudes just make me want to be on that plane sooner - he will do well here and I wish him and his family the best of luck!

PADDAD Mar 26th 2006 1:18 pm

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Originally Posted by woodyinoz
I can't understand why he would post the way he does on the moving back to UK forum unless he is confused about his own feelings and to scared to admit them or just stirring the pot.(the later me thinks)

I know my mind and hearing his attitudes just make me want to be on that plane sooner - he will do well here and I wish him and his family the best of luck!

hmmm you made an interesting point there. It is interesting that he would feel the need to to post on the 'moving back to UK forum' since he is so blissfully happy here in Aus.

I hope he continues to be happy here and perhaps spread a little more joy ;)

PADDAD Mar 26th 2006 1:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Exile
You're not alone, and I think Kendodd probably agrees with you too and posted the link as another example of a cringeworthy post from the same person. (Please correct me Ken if I'm wrong).

It's refreshing to see people responding on the basis of what's said in the post, rather than on the reputation and support base of the poster.

Thanks for shedding light on the above. :) As far as I am concerned we are all equal here :)

MrsB Mar 26th 2006 3:58 pm

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Originally Posted by PADDAD
I can see that it's 'thatnotquiteright' interviewing himself but I am trying to understand why Kendodd referenced it to me?

Sorry, my mistake, in post #66 I thought you had asked "who the hell are you", when I didn't finish the rest of your sentence! Whoops!

MrsB Mar 26th 2006 4:04 pm

Re: Going back? 50/50
 

Originally Posted by Exile
You're not alone, and I think Kendodd probably agrees with you too and posted the link as another example of a cringeworthy post from the same person. (Please correct me Ken if I'm wrong).

It's refreshing to see people responding on the basis of what's said in the post, rather than on the reputation and support base of the poster.

No, you are correct. Badge's posts are obviously intended to be well meant and he geninely seems to want people to be happy here - it's the way in which it's written.....the tone as someone else said.....

I find his posts quite condescending at times ("I feel sorry for you lot.....") and they come across as just a bit self indulgent/self-congratulatory/ "look-at-me" type of thing!!!!

And I've been reading/re-reading/ them now for nearly a year!!

I don't feel "sorry" for myself at all, I feel lucky to have had the adventure and the the chance to try somewhere else.!!

Ozwells Mar 26th 2006 4:14 pm

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Originally Posted by kendodd
No, you are correct. I agree that Badge's posts are well meaning and that he geninely does want people to be happy here.

But, I find his posts quite condescending at times ("I feel sorry for you lot.....") and they come across as just a bit self indulgent/self-congratulatory/ "look-at-me" type of thing!!!!

Thats exactly what we felt, the 'I feel sorry for you lot', and we should try changing our 'attitude' got our backs up. It's not about attitude, we are talking about individuals feelings, wants and needs. I think as well as a bit of self-indulgence, look at me I'm wonderfull, we also feel it's a bit of stiring things up on this thread..which has worked look at the responses! I look on the thread of people moving to Australia and read their enthusiam, just because we don't feel the same, I wouldn't post a reply informing them of the negatives......it's up to them to find out for themselves and just as it doesn't feel right for us here they might love it.............and can enjoy those long rambling walks with 'thatsnotquiteright'.........sounds like a blindin' day out!!! :D :D

JaneandJim Mar 27th 2006 12:16 am

Re: Going back? 50/50
 

Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.

I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy."

The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag.

If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way.

I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back.




good luck

Speaking personally, I missed-out on all of that 'how to kill a man with your bare hands' training, so I guess I'll never be able to appreciate the finer things in life...
Something queer about a bunch of blokes out in the woods, all alone...


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