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Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by kiwichild
I so much agree with this post, I just thought it was Perth that was like this! Perhaps it's the whole damned country?
Have to admit, as for sleep, one of the things I hate about the Uk is the constant desire for people to go out and go on a bender because they think it is cool. I have a young daughter and I love my sleep, always have done. I used to get so bored with being out until 2am, contact lenses sticking to my eyes due to the smoke in some cool bar. What makes me laugh is that alot of friends wanted to go out to a cool nightclub but when they got there, everyone looks so miserable - then it would be chucking out time all of a sudden unlike on the continent. I'd rather be talking to a pretty girl or interesting people over a quiet glass of wine or watch a game off rugby with some blokes. A lot of young aussies drinka lot. cheers |
Re: Going back? 50/50
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.
I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy." The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag. If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way. I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back. good luck |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way. |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.
I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy." The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag. If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way. I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back. good luck :eek: :eek: |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.
I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy." The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag. If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way. I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back. good luck I'm well aware that I have lost most of that positivity, but my god, I hung on to it as much as I could. I still want to live here and be happy here, but I am defeated in some way at every turn. I swear that it seems this country hates me, however hard I try. I come from a background like yours - mixing with a huge variety of people from all areas/spheres of life, but I cannot get the same relationship here that I got with people back home. I have lost my health, a lot of my mates, most of my self-esteem, I am as broke as I was before but with less of a lifestyle and poorer health. I still can't afford to buy a house and never will be able to. I banter and I laugh with guys at work, but I'm still not accepted no matter how hard I try. I just feel I don't fit. No amount of thinking positive can change that. |
Re: Going back? 50/50
[QUOTE=thatsnotquiteright]I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.
I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy." The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag. If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way. I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back.
Originally Posted by Pollyana
Something you need to bear in mind mate, its not always the attitude. You know when you first met me just how positive my attitude was, and just how much I was looking forward to being here.
I'm well aware that I have lost most of that positivity, but my god, I hung on to it as much as I could. I still want to live here and be happy here, but I am defeated in some way at every turn. I swear that it seems this country hates me, however hard I try. I come from a background like yours - mixing with a huge variety of people from all areas/spheres of life, but I cannot get the same relationship here that I got with people back home. I have lost my health, a lot of my mates, most of my self-esteem, I am as broke as I was before but with less of a lifestyle and poorer health. I still can't afford to buy a house and never will be able to. I banter and I laugh with guys at work, but I'm still not accepted no matter how hard I try. I just feel I don't fit. No amount of thinking positive can change that.[/QUOTEgood luck Pollyana is one of the most positive posters on this forum and I make a point of reading her posts because I find them helpful and interesting and honest. She has never come accross as a self righteous, arrogant, condescending @>* like the poster who prompted her response above. It's very easy to see how positive most people are when they first come to Australia by reading their 'posting' history on this site. It is only the ignorant and self righteous and 'some' new arrivals who assume that they and not us have/had the 'correct/positive' attitude to living in Australia, we wouldn't have come to Australia in the first place if this was the case! Just because it works out for some doesn't mean it works for everybody. We are all unique and some perhaps not so bloody arrogant! Who the hell are you 'thatsNotquitesoright' to assume that none of us have had the same positive experiences since living in Australia. Get a hold of yourself 'thatsnotquitesoright' because frankly you're not! |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.
I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy." The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag. If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way. I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back. good luck |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by Pants
Lol.....sorry I just couldn't get into anything like that..!!My SIL is that sort, she has matching ironing board covers to her tea towels etc...!!!Not me...!!!arghhhhhhhh stepford comes to mind !!
It's free and you'll learn about: -how to plan a kitchen for your needs -what to look for when buying appliances -door and benchtop types finishes and styles -kitchen floor plan layouts and ergonomics -hardware and fittings availability and uses -how to avoid costly mistakes Sounds like a good sales technique :D :D :D |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused. We do things like keep in contact with all our vehicles, playing CDs over the CB and bantering about someone's driving.They remind me of people like that I have met all over the world - but they are particularly savvy which only living semi-rural can do for you - the character building aspect of it.
I even thought of some of you on the way back in the car. I though "if only the expats could be here now they'd finally get it! They'd realise where they are going wrong and why some of us are happy." The secret to life is to get out and live life to the full. I've met people from all walks of life and you have to learn to get on with everyone. A varied background helps. I find english people love to say how liberal they are, but actually fail to translate that in to friendships and really understanding people. There's a famous poem where someone builds up the Englishman but then basically says how uncomfortable and ill-equipped they are in some ways! I'll have to try and dig it out, haven't heard it for 10 years. In our group we have ex SAS blokes who specialise in sourcing equipment - we call one the scrounger, management consultants, geophysicists, conservationists, senior academics and a bloke who runs a chicken farm. They all just get on with banter, there's no real gossip, other than stories of interesting projects people have got up to, scarcasm or negativity - and many are all part time firefighters whilst bringing up great kids, in fact we all share the babysitting when some of us are on call. Some of the kids are real cuties, they're universally adored, I don't think they realise how priveleged they are sometimes, they take living on 2 acres and all the distractions of their chooks, birds, animals, for granted and then they come and jump in my pool. I can't wait to show my kids all the things the other kids get up to. It's a real mixed bag. If I could work out how to teach this 'attitude' to people, I would be a millionaire! We've even discussed me becoming a motivator or a trainer because coming over here has made me realise how positive I am as a person. I was just born to live here lol. My wife is always saying how things just seem to come naturally to me, I seem to just 'get on'. Just remember to have this attitude everywhere, in the UK too, and it goes along way. I could have all this in the UK, if I could afford it, but I would miss the rawness of Australia and there would be a draw back. good luck |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by Breezey
Isnt Surfers fun??
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Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by PADDAD
Who the hell are you 'thatsNotquitesoright' to assume that none of us have had the same positive experiences since living in Australia.Get a hold of yourself 'thatsnotquitesoright' because frankly you're not!
Secondly, I think his main post above is borne of a certain kind of sadness. It's a bit like when you've fallen head-over-heels in love with someone, and everything's great and you just want to share your feelings for that person with everyone who'll listen. Some people will mock you, some who having fallen out of love, will advise you that it won't last, others will smily wryly and remember the first moments of their great love affair, others who have never experienced love will have trouble comprehending any of it. Badge has a great life in Australia and above all he just wants everyone else to have a great life in Australia. His views probably don't sit well when you've had a belly full of Oz and just want to get back to the familiarity of the UK, but he doesn't post them out of malice. :) |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by PADDAD
We are all unique and some perhaps not so bloody arrogant! Who the hell are you 'thatsNotquitesoright' to assume that none of us have had the same positive experiences since living in Australia. Get a hold of yourself 'thatsnotquitesoright' because frankly you're not! http://britishexpats.com/articles/au...ew-with-badge/ |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by Hutch
I feel I ought to step up to the plate and defend 'thatsnot' because he's a well-meaning bloke, but I can understand why his post got the reaction it has. Firstly, he's Badge - he deleted his account a while back and re-registered with this new name - with the exception of a couple of the regular posters in the 'Moving back ...' section I don't think you'll find many regulars to this forum who'd bad mouth him.
Secondly, I think his main post above is borne of a certain kind of sadness. It's a bit like when you've fallen head-over-heels in love with someone, and everything's great and you just want to share your feelings for that person with everyone who'll listen. Some people will mock you, some who having fallen out of love, will advise you that it won't last, others will smily wryly and remember the first moments of their great love affair, others who have never experienced love will have trouble comprehending any of it. Badge has a great life in Australia and above all he just wants everyone else to have a great life in Australia. His views probably don't sit well when you've had a belly full of Oz and just want to get back to the familiarity of the UK, but he doesn't post them out of malice. :) I agree that he doesn't say this stuff out of malice and is probably a well-meaning bloke, but just because someone has a massive following on the site doesn't mean we all have to bow down and worship them at the altar of BE elder statesmen. |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
I really feel sorry for some of you lot, have to admit. It actually makes me feel guilty, seriously I do - I wonder what I did to deserve it. I did a great 42k bush walk today culminating with a 1200m ascent with some aussie mates and not one of them is anything like the typical surbanan aussie. I'll let you into a secret - the more I live here, the more interesting people I meet. It's both uncanny and fulfilling. And they all do things that would worry the average Brit. snakes, spiders, sunburn, yadda yadda. "will the girls like this, will they like that" They are so focused with their activities, really well read, intellectual at times. We have lots of fun and everyone is so - just so effing focused.
... good luck Right! Back to digging post holes :( |
Re: Going back? 50/50
Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
...What makes me laugh is that alot of friends wanted to go out to a cool nightclub but when they got there, everyone looks so miserable
Can someone please explain how a predominantly black style of music is soooo popular in a country with very little (non Aboriginal) black population. My theory is that the Indiginous peoples are in fact massive secret R'n'B fans, and are buying all the singles. Is this just another case of Australia trying to follow American trends just 'to be cool like them' ? |
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