CGT and cost basis of shares
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CGT and cost basis of shares
Capital Gains Tax advice please !
I have lived outside the UK for 12 years. If I became resident in UK under SRT rules on say 1 January 2023, would the cost basis of shares purchased prior to my return be the original cost on date of purchase or would HMRC require that the cost was adjusted to the 1 January 2023 value ?
Or, perhaps there is a choice ?
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
I have lived outside the UK for 12 years. If I became resident in UK under SRT rules on say 1 January 2023, would the cost basis of shares purchased prior to my return be the original cost on date of purchase or would HMRC require that the cost was adjusted to the 1 January 2023 value ?
Or, perhaps there is a choice ?
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
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Re: CGT and cost basis of shares
I own a property in France which will be subject to French CGT when it is sold.
I will also have to declare the Gain to HMRC stating the original cost price of the property which HMRC will use to calculate any CGT due in the UK.
I am UK tax resident.
Applying the same logic to your situation, you would need to declare the original cost of the shares.
Remember that you have a personal CGT tax-free allowance of £12,300 in each tax year.
There is no tax due on spousal transfers which would allow you to transfer some shares to a spouse and therefore have £24,600 tax free each year.
You would have to calculate if it is cheaper to sell the shares under your current country's rules while you are tax resident or return to the UK and then sell the shares in the most advantageous way.
The UK tax year runs from April 6th to April 5th.
I normally get a CGT position from my account manager each March to maximise my CGT allowance.
As a UK resident, you can put £20k (£40k per couple) of shares into an ISA wrapper which mean that there is no future income tax or CGT liability.
HTH
I will also have to declare the Gain to HMRC stating the original cost price of the property which HMRC will use to calculate any CGT due in the UK.
I am UK tax resident.
Applying the same logic to your situation, you would need to declare the original cost of the shares.
Remember that you have a personal CGT tax-free allowance of £12,300 in each tax year.
There is no tax due on spousal transfers which would allow you to transfer some shares to a spouse and therefore have £24,600 tax free each year.
You would have to calculate if it is cheaper to sell the shares under your current country's rules while you are tax resident or return to the UK and then sell the shares in the most advantageous way.
The UK tax year runs from April 6th to April 5th.
I normally get a CGT position from my account manager each March to maximise my CGT allowance.
As a UK resident, you can put £20k (£40k per couple) of shares into an ISA wrapper which mean that there is no future income tax or CGT liability.
HTH
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Re: CGT and cost basis of shares
Capital Gains Tax advice please !
I have lived outside the UK for 12 years. If I became resident in UK under SRT rules on say 1 January 2023, would the cost basis of shares purchased prior to my return be the original cost on date of purchase or would HMRC require that the cost was adjusted to the 1 January 2023 value ?
Or, perhaps there is a choice ?
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
I have lived outside the UK for 12 years. If I became resident in UK under SRT rules on say 1 January 2023, would the cost basis of shares purchased prior to my return be the original cost on date of purchase or would HMRC require that the cost was adjusted to the 1 January 2023 value ?
Or, perhaps there is a choice ?
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
xe.com has historical exchange rate tables so that is easy to look up.
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Re: CGT and cost basis of shares
Thanks durham-lad.
In UK does the exchange rate at date of purchase have to be on the exact date of purchase ? Or, as in some countries, the monthly average or indeed the annual average exchange rate acceptable ? Perhaps on can choose in UK and if so, does one have to be consistent year on year I wonder ? This can make a large difference to gain or loss achieved.
Thanks again for your input, much appreciated.
In UK does the exchange rate at date of purchase have to be on the exact date of purchase ? Or, as in some countries, the monthly average or indeed the annual average exchange rate acceptable ? Perhaps on can choose in UK and if so, does one have to be consistent year on year I wonder ? This can make a large difference to gain or loss achieved.
Thanks again for your input, much appreciated.
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Re: CGT and cost basis of shares
Thanks durham-lad.
In UK does the exchange rate at date of purchase have to be on the exact date of purchase ? Or, as in some countries, the monthly average or indeed the annual average exchange rate acceptable ? Perhaps on can choose in UK and if so, does one have to be consistent year on year I wonder ? This can make a large difference to gain or loss achieved.
Thanks again for your input, much appreciated.
In UK does the exchange rate at date of purchase have to be on the exact date of purchase ? Or, as in some countries, the monthly average or indeed the annual average exchange rate acceptable ? Perhaps on can choose in UK and if so, does one have to be consistent year on year I wonder ? This can make a large difference to gain or loss achieved.
Thanks again for your input, much appreciated.
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Re: CGT and cost basis of shares
If you are going to get a large capital gain (i.e. above the CGT allowance), you could consider selling the shares before you return to generate the gain whilst non-tax resident. You could always buy the shares back again if desired to se-set the clock, but check the CGT rules on how soon you can re-buy as there may be a delay required (there is a risk the shares price will increase in the meantime).
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If you are going to get a large capital gain (i.e. above the CGT allowance), you could consider selling the shares before you return to generate the gain whilst non-tax resident. You could always buy the shares back again if desired to se-set the clock, but check the CGT rules on how soon you can re-buy as there may be a delay required (there is a risk the shares price will increase in the meantime).
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/washsalerule.asp
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Re: CGT and cost basis of shares
If you have a capital loss, best wait until a UK resident to sell and have the loss available to offset against gains elsewhere or carry forwards. But the concept is the same - bed and breakfasting. You can't sell shares to crystalise a gain (and utilise the an annual CGT allowance) and immediately re-buy them to re-set the purchase price to a higher level. There has to be a 30+ day gap between sale and re-purchase.