Welcome To Dubai!
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Is it really that much better back home? My 18-year old son playing football with his mates at lunchtime yesterday, one kid goes down screaming in agony--they thought he was taking the piss at first, only to discover his kneecap at the back and not the front. After numerous 999 calls--"Is he breathing? Yes? OK, we're on our way"--took 1 full hour for the amublance to arrive, but only with the driver, so my son and his friends had to help lift the kid onto the stretcher. And last weekend son's friend got jumped by some locals, luckily the ground broke his fall and his nose; he's now on bail, can't go to the planned 18th birthday piss-up in Edinburgh because hte reporting officer is on holiday and nothing can be done till she returns next week.
OK, minor incidents, but would you feel safer on the piss in Dubai / AD or in Leeds, Bradford, Glasgow, London etc etc?
"These people will never change." Trouble is its changing in the UK, and all for the worse.
OK, minor incidents, but would you feel safer on the piss in Dubai / AD or in Leeds, Bradford, Glasgow, London etc etc?
"These people will never change." Trouble is its changing in the UK, and all for the worse.
To answer your last point i usually don't feel threatened anywhere i go on the piss.
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Don't be stupid. France is infinitely more liberal than the UAE as you know perfectly well. As for your earlier comment about kissing, very few western tourists are informed about such medieval laws before travelling. Are they expected to read the rules and regulations of every country they visit? Personally I find heterosexual kissing much less offensive than the constant hand-holding and kissing I see between men here, but then I do not make the rules.
In Italy and Spain it isn't weird to see men kissing each others and the same thing for Asian, African and Latin American countries and about holding hands there is nothing wrong with it (as long as there are no faggots here I mean Emarati one!...Thanks God)
Note: In 1971 Constitution agreed by the Rulers of the Emirates provided that the Supreme Council of Rulers shall be the highest legislative authority in the UAE - which means French laws are older than UAE laws (so which one are medieval laws)
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Muslims in France have infinitely more rights than French in UAE. For one, France actually has human rights, grant citizenship and a justice system that actually seeks justice.
Muslims can wear scarves in public , private and in private schools, just not in Public schools because the state is officially secular. Muslims can build mosques ,organize and protest in France. Can the French even attend public UAE schools?
So your comparison is not a comparison at all.How anyone can even question who is more Liberal, France or UAE is just astonishing.
Muslims can wear scarves in public , private and in private schools, just not in Public schools because the state is officially secular. Muslims can build mosques ,organize and protest in France. Can the French even attend public UAE schools?
So your comparison is not a comparison at all.How anyone can even question who is more Liberal, France or UAE is just astonishing.
According to French laws muslims women are prohibited to wear veil in public school ONLY but again French law is a double standard and contradictory when it comes to Islam (Please see the links below).
France's PM says man with Islamic veil 'burqa' wife has no place in France
http://www.france24.com/en/20100203-...o-place-france
France refuses citizenship over Muslim woman's dress (This time the woman can't get the citizenship)
http://timescorrespondents.typepad.c...e-refuses.html
And many comments against muslims by ministers.
Opposition politicians from the left denounced the comments by the minister for families, Nadine Morano
"We are not putting young Muslims on trial. I respect their situation. What I want is for them to feel French because they are French," she said in a recording played on French radio.
"I want them to love France when they live here, to find work and not to speak in slang," she said, adding: "They shouldn't put their caps on back to front."
AFTER ALL I CAN SEE HOW LIBERAL IS FRANCE.
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Muslims can go to French school simply because they are French not Emarati. In addition who want to attend public Emarati school (it is in arabic and no French is interested to attend it). And about building mosques Muslims in Frence who are between 10% - 15 % can hardly get the permission to build mosque and there is a double-standard: long-term leases are only being challenged when they are for mosques. Whereas here in UAE Churches are more than needed (Alot of Churches although no Emarati is Christian).
Ofcourse France grants non ethnic 'French' citizenship because they are liberal. If they were as xenophobic/racist as the Gulf, they would never do such a thing. This is part of my point about Muslims attending French public schools, that they can do this because France is liberal enough to grant citizenship to non Catholics/Christians and those whos ethnic origin is from outside Europe.
Mosques in France are still allowed to be built and be *permanent*, unlike the Emirates where they are just temporary. Emiratis know that building Churches in UAE does not threaten the Emirati Cultural hegemony as the congregates are expats who have to leave when the time comes . If UAE had any sizeable permanent Christian community, Emiratis would not be soo tolerant of Churches.
St.Joseph's church in Abu Dhabi used to be located in the Corniche but was later demolished because the locals and or Sheiks could accept a Christian building having such good real estate. The Church was moved to the interior, off Airport road. The new Church was built right next to St.Andrews church. The large 4 minaret Sheik Mohammed Bin Zayed Mosque was built later, and it slotted in between St.Josephs and St.Andrews. Locals did not like that churches were located soo near a Mosque. If it wasn't influence by the clergy and European embassies, the churches may have had to move .
According to French laws muslims women are prohibited to wear veil in public school ONLY but again French law is a double standard and contradictory when it comes to Islam (Please see the links below).
France's PM says man with Islamic veil 'burqa' wife has no place in France
http://www.france24.com/en/20100203-...o-place-france
http://www.france24.com/en/20100203-...o-place-france
France refuses citizenship over Muslim woman's dress (This time the woman can't get the citizenship)
http://timescorrespondents.typepad.c...e-refuses.html
http://timescorrespondents.typepad.c...e-refuses.html
And many comments against muslims by ministers.
Opposition politicians from the left denounced the comments by the minister for families, Nadine Morano
"We are not putting young Muslims on trial. I respect their situation. What I want is for them to feel French because they are French," she said in a recording played on French radio.
"I want them to love France when they live here, to find work and not to speak in slang," she said, adding: "They shouldn't put their caps on back to front."
AFTER ALL I CAN SEE HOW LIBERAL IS FRANCE.
"I want them to love France when they live here, to find work and not to speak in slang," she said, adding: "They shouldn't put their caps on back to front."
AFTER ALL I CAN SEE HOW LIBERAL IS FRANCE.
When the Emirates starts granting citizenship to ethnically and culturally different persons and more importantly does not demand that these people give up their culture, then we can talk about who is more liberal. The Emirates can't even treat migrant labourers like human beings and had no problem with child slave jockeyes from Africa and S Asia.
The very fact that France is against such primitive patriarchal attitudes/customs as the Burqa is precisely because they are liberal.
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This point about the UAE legislative body being formed in 1971 is ridiculous. Everyone knows the entire basis of the law is Shariah, which is definitely medieval.
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Another addition to this:
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....703169807/1133
So better be careful what you're posting here in the forum, you never know who is reading and gets offended
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....703169807/1133
So better be careful what you're posting here in the forum, you never know who is reading and gets offended