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Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by busybee2
(Post 6422930)
r get you, lucky you they are abiding by it. Because the rules are that a school cannot increase by more than 20% every 3 years or by 5% every 2 unless they get MOE permission etc.
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Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by IndieG
(Post 6422733)
Unless I was very unhappy in my current job and really hated the place I was staying in, I personally wouldn't move to Dubai for less than AED 75k a month.
It depends on your standard of living - you could live comfortably on 75k and also save up.... Then you also have people on half that income and also very happy... However - I don't think this 75K figure will help all interested people.... you might not be able to live on less but many will be. I know you know your stuff - but can you really quantify this 75K figure? (when you're less tired... :)) |
Re: A wages question
Oh dear I seem to have started some sort of rant:o
any chance of getting back to question I asked:o;) Kath |
Re: A wages question
Is 75K a figure all in?
It is quite a high figure, but if it is the complete salary including housing/schooling etc then it is not too much.. to be honest, its not a large smack in the bollox off my all inclusive salary, if i break down my housing and other perks... If i had 4 kids here, i would certainly be looking for that kind of all inclusive salary... when you add up all the expense its not too bad.. and Sam, a UK salary of 100,000GBP is not an amazing amount to be honest.If i went back to working in the field, i could earn that easily....however being with my family is more important.. Bloody office workers, bankers, brokers, all think they know it bloody all:D |
Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad
(Post 6424253)
Is 75K a figure all in?
It is quite a high figure, but if it is the complete salary including housing/schooling etc then it is not too much.. to be honest, its not a large smack in the bollox off my all inclusive salary, if i break down my housing and other perks... If i had 4 kids here, i would certainly be looking for that kind of all inclusive salary... when you add up all the expense its not too bad.. and Sam, a UK salary of 100,000GBP is not an amazing amount to be honest.If i went back to working in the field, i could earn that easily....however being with my family is more important.. Bloody office workers, bankers, brokers, all think they know it bloody all:D It wont surprise anyone to hear that I actually agree with AA on this... When I add up the additional benefits I get over and above my salary (housing/car allowance/school for the kids....etc), I get pretty close to 75K AED a month..... And, again agreeing with AA, before I moved into the office, I was regularly pulling in 100K GBP plus... Mind you, I had to work in places that you mere mortals would never consider.....lol |
Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by Kath & Graham
(Post 6423210)
Oh dear I seem to have started some sort of rant:o
any chance of getting back to question I asked:o;) Kath Hi-di-hi |
Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by Kath & Graham
(Post 6422702)
Just wanting to find out what a good wage would be for a family of 4?
Would it be impertenent to ask for schooling fees to be paid partially/fully ? Ive been swatting up on a few bits and bobs but just wondered about housing costs etc, if they ask you what you want to be paid for what would you say ?? (everything lol)... Do most companies offer much help towards relocation etc? Im just trying to get some kind of list together so that I can evaluate what costs we need if we are lucky enough to get offered work out there. Kath Thanks If you dont ask, you dont get, my gran always used to say..... |
Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by Sam FTQ
(Post 6422826)
That is a ridiculous figure! Dh75k per month equates to over 100 grand a year sterling!!!
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Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 6424302)
According to my dodgy arithmetic, it actually equates to GBP125K per annum AFTER TAX, roughly GBP175K gross. I think Indie is deliberately trying to deter ordinary people from coming as few newbies will get that much here. Don't always believe what your friends tell you they earn! Back to the OP, my view is that AED40K per month is OK but do not expect to get a posh villa, more likely an apartment.
First point, what tax? 900,000 - 250,000(rent) = 650,000 650,000 - 90,000 (2 x avg school fees, dependent on age) = 560,000 560,000 - 36,000 (Car Allowance) = 524,000 524,000 - 42,000 (Utilities) = 482,000 Leaves you with 40,000 AED pm..... You still may have to fork out extra for the 2nd car, may still have bills back in your home country (mortgage etc....) The OP asked what to ask for, not what to settle for.... And what you need is wholly dependent on what you are willing to accept in terms of standard of living..... Personally, I would not have moved out here if my standard of living was going to be substantially lower, but, as AA points out, I could have continued living away from home for 9 months of the year, in a country which I am positive is not on anyones holiday list, and lived like a king for the 3 months I was back in Aberdeen..... At the end of the day, it is the individual that must decide what they are willing to negotiate on... and also what kind of lifestyle they want when they get here.. |
Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by lionheart
(Post 6424302)
According to my dodgy arithmetic, it actually equates to GBP125K per annum AFTER TAX, roughly GBP175K gross. I think Indie is deliberately trying to deter ordinary people from coming as few newbies will get that much here. Don't always believe what your friends tell you they earn! Back to the OP, my view is that AED40K per month is OK but do not expect to get a posh villa, more likely an apartment.
480,000 - 150,000(Apartment rent) = 330,000 330,000 - 90,000(School Fees) = 240,000 240,000 - 48,000(2 x car payments) = 192,000 192,000 - 42,000(Utilities) = 150,000 Leaves you with 12,500AED pm - Approx £1,700pm... Before possible additional expenses in your home country..... With the cost of entertainment, western groceries etc over here, I wouldnt accept that offer, simple as that.... |
Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by ScotsExpat
(Post 6424381)
75,000 x 12 = 900,000 AED @7.24 AED->GBP = 124,300GBP approx....
First point, what tax? |
Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by Autonomy
(Post 6424461)
The tax comes in that in the UK to have the same amount 900,000dhs or 124,300 GBP in your pocket, you would need to be on 124,300 after the tax had been deducted. Which may be in the region of 175,000GBP gross salary...
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Re: A wages question
Originally Posted by ScotsExpat
(Post 6424464)
But why even mention it unless you are going to have to pay it?
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Re: A wages question
I think it was Scots that mentioned that salaries are subjective.
What one man may consider a kings ransom, another will scoff at.. It also depends what you are coming over here for. To save money? Enjoy the sun and the 'outdoor' lifestyle (for 6 months of the year)? Just to experience something different? I am sure a lot are here for the cash, but some aren't.. Horses for courses. |
Re: A wages question
Talking about the civil engineering industry, I noticed from searching bbt global website that salaries in UAE for senior engineers and managers range between 40-50 AED. Only few positions (maybe for directors) go up to 60-70 AED. Any further thoughts on this?
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