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Old Mar 22nd 2007, 5:14 am
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There are free public beaches in every single European resort (in England I think they pay you for going)
 
Old Mar 22nd 2007, 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by W10
It's not free.

People seem to forget that not everyone here is a wealthy expat. There are hundreds of thousands of people who are living on or below the breadline. I love seeing families playing together on the free beach, or the kids running around during the normal racing season in the free enclosure at Nad Al Sheba.

There is nothing wrong IMHO of mourning the loss of the most popular public beach in the country to the whim of a developer.

It's madness.
Come on now 5dhs per person or 20dhs per carload
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I refer you back to my point about people who earn hardly anything here.

Your husband probably earns more in a day than some people who use the beaches earn in a couple of months. To them, paying Dh20 (plus of course transport costs in getting there) is a big deal, especially when it has been free well...forever.

Another example is Global Village, do you have any idea how hard it hit some people when they started charging entry?
 
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I refer you back to my point about people who earn hardly anything here.

Your husband probably earns more in a day than some people who use the beaches earn in a couple of months. To them, paying Dh20 (plus of course transport costs in getting there) is a big deal, especially when it has been free well...forever.

Another example is Global Village, do you have any idea how hard it hit some people when they started charging entry?

And I refer you to my post on another thread

Yes he probably does but he has also spent many years training, some of it at his own expense !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I refer you back to my point about people who earn hardly anything here.

Your husband probably earns more in a day than some people who use the beaches earn in a couple of months. To them, paying Dh20 (plus of course transport costs in getting there) is a big deal, especially when it has been free well...forever.

Another example is Global Village, do you have any idea how hard it hit some people when they started charging entry?
To be fair - global village is a commerical entity and the developer/owner whatever has the right to charge what they want....Emirates mall could charge entry if they wanted but it probably wouldn't be in their interest.

However, beaches shouldn't be owned by anyone....nor should you have to pay to use them.
At home we have a thing called "the queens chain" which is a (I forget the exact width) 20m? or 20foot? wide coridoor from the high tide mark inland around the entire tidal coastline of NZ which is public land and anyone can access it.
I don't know and doubt they have that here.

I recall a public holiday about 6 months ago we went to snoopy island to snorkling. Sandy beach hotel were charging 50dhs a head entry for the beach...so we parked on the empty beach next door and swam from there to snoopy.
There was a dude standing on the edge of the breakwater stopping people from swimming around. We ignored him. Sandy beach has a right to stop people getting on their land for free....but they do not own snoopy island and have the right to stop people accessing that surely.
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And I refer you to my post on another thread

Yes he probably does but he has also spent many years training, some of it at his own expense !!!!!!!!!!!!
That's hardly the point. Not everyone has had the opportunities he/we have had.
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And I refer you to my post on another thread

Yes he probably does but he has also spent many years training, some of it at his own expense !!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow...so what you're saying is that it is a poverty stricken, badly educated, oppressed and racially discriminated against third world citizen's own fault for not earning Dh20,000 a month and being given a free villa?

Your hubby must have such a hard life...such a hard life.
 
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That's hardly the point. Not everyone has had the opportunities he/we have had.
No I agree with that just explaining why I don't feel guilty going to a beach club when others can't afford to - selfish maybe - but just my views
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To be fair - global village is a commerical entity and the developer/owner whatever has the right to charge what they want....Emirates mall could charge entry if they wanted but it probably wouldn't be in their interest.

I recall a public holiday about 6 months ago we went to snoopy island to snorkling. Sandy beach hotel were charging 50dhs a head entry for the beach...so we parked on the empty beach next door and swam from there to snoopy.
There was a dude standing on the edge of the breakwater stopping people from swimming around. We ignored him. Sandy beach has a right to stop people getting on their land for free....but they do not own snoopy island and have the right to stop people accessing that surely.
I wasn't debating the commercial rights and wrongs of the Global Village decision, just merely using it as an example of how hundreds of thousands of people here are hit hard when previously free activities are taken away from them.

The Sandy Beach Hotel story is shocking...perhaps they are claiming territorial rights over the island??
 
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Originally Posted by W10
Wow...so what you're saying is that it is a poverty stricken, badly educated, oppressed and racially discriminated against third world citizen's own fault for not earning Dh20,000 a month and being given a free villa?

Your hubby must have such a hard life...such a hard life.
Oh give it a rest its no-ones fault just right place right time or wrong place wrong time whichever scenario fits.

And you know nothing about our life so please don't comment
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Originally Posted by Fairydust
No I agree with that just explaining why I don't feel guilty going to a beach club when others can't afford to - selfish maybe - but just my views
I didn't ask you to feel guilty. I never implied you should.

I was simply trying to show you that it IS a very big deal to thousands of less well off people in Dubai (who make up the majority of the population)

A concept you haven't seemed to be able to grasp very well. Most people here don't live your life, or my life, or the majority of the life that us Westerners live.
 
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A concept you haven't seemed to be able to grasp very well. Most people here don't live your life, or my life, or the majority of the life that us Westerners live.
I can grasp it very well thank you
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No I agree with that just explaining why I don't feel guilty going to a beach club when others can't afford to - selfish maybe - but just my views
Shouldn't feel quilty about going to a beach club at all.....if you cant afford it tough - that's life. But at the same time surely you agree there should be a beach for everyone at no charge......it's not as though there's not enough beach to go around.

I haven't been to too many beaches around the world....but every one I can recall going to was free - even the ones in the middle of cities / towns...Auckland, Hawaii, Barcelona, hell....even rip-off UK's most popular beaches are free...brighton for one, cornwall....

Surely Dubai can come up with a mix of beach clubs / resorts and free beaches on it's coastline.
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Anyone know if they are going to charge to use the refurbished beach in Jumeirah??
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I'd rather have whinging expats than minging indians.
Dubai is more bearable actually, now that we have one less minging and whinging American and one less stupid racist moron..............
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