Saudi Woman's point of view.
Mar 6th 2010, 9:45 pm
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Mar 6th 2010, 10:05 pm
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Mar 7th 2010, 6:12 am
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Mar 7th 2010, 6:59 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
Blood tests for both partners to make sure that there's no chance of "Blood Genetic Disorders" or "Blood Genetic Diseases" that might happen to their children.
I've also "heard" that they will include check - ups for STDs as well. It might be already implemented.
Couples must present their medical clearance in order to get married.
I've also "heard" that they will include check - ups for STDs as well. It might be already implemented.
Couples must present their medical clearance in order to get married.
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Mar 7th 2010, 7:05 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
consanguinity is an enormous problem in the GCC.
To be very blunt the population is to all intents and purposes breeding itself into slow extinction.
some brief stats:
Consanguinity in Saudi runs at about 50% across the nation with this number being significantly higher in rural and remote populations. Saudi's biggest issue with inter family marriage and breeding is cogenital heart defects (CHD is present in upto 50% of the resultant progeny)
UAE: at about 40-50% consanguinity has taken the relativly rare disorder of thalassemia and turned it into a major issue, to the point where about 60% of all blood used in the UAE is used for thalassemia treatment.(that no. taken dirctly from al wasel hospital)
From a UAE based study
"UAE is arguably the most heterogeneous population in the world"
"Molecular heterogeneity of beta-thalassemia in the United Arab Emirates.
Baysal E. Dubai Genetic and Thalassemia Center, Al Wasl Hospital, Dubai, United Arab Emirates"
the story is the same in Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Bahrian, jordan, Morocco etc, interestingly this level of consanguinity is actually rising in the younger generation, perhaps as a result of an increase in the expatriate population and a resultant grasp at retaining cultural identity. This is of course helped by the various government policies encouraging marriage within the national population and the reluctance to nationalise children of mixed marriages.
for further info see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed and search for consanguinity and the desired country
interesting paper
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9881148?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.P ubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_SingleItemSupl.Pu bmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&l ogdbfrom=pubmed
of course the cynics amongst us could well say that this is a self fulfiling solution, me.........i couldnt possibly comment
To be very blunt the population is to all intents and purposes breeding itself into slow extinction.
some brief stats:
Consanguinity in Saudi runs at about 50% across the nation with this number being significantly higher in rural and remote populations. Saudi's biggest issue with inter family marriage and breeding is cogenital heart defects (CHD is present in upto 50% of the resultant progeny)
UAE: at about 40-50% consanguinity has taken the relativly rare disorder of thalassemia and turned it into a major issue, to the point where about 60% of all blood used in the UAE is used for thalassemia treatment.(that no. taken dirctly from al wasel hospital)
From a UAE based study
"UAE is arguably the most heterogeneous population in the world"
"Molecular heterogeneity of beta-thalassemia in the United Arab Emirates.
Baysal E. Dubai Genetic and Thalassemia Center, Al Wasl Hospital, Dubai, United Arab Emirates"
the story is the same in Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Bahrian, jordan, Morocco etc, interestingly this level of consanguinity is actually rising in the younger generation, perhaps as a result of an increase in the expatriate population and a resultant grasp at retaining cultural identity. This is of course helped by the various government policies encouraging marriage within the national population and the reluctance to nationalise children of mixed marriages.
for further info see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed and search for consanguinity and the desired country
interesting paper
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9881148?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.P ubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_SingleItemSupl.Pu bmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&l ogdbfrom=pubmed
of course the cynics amongst us could well say that this is a self fulfiling solution, me.........i couldnt possibly comment
Last edited by shiva; Mar 7th 2010 at 7:09 am.
Mar 7th 2010, 7:06 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
Blood tests for both partners to make sure that there's no chance of "Blood Genetic Disorders" or "Blood Genetic Diseases" that might happen to their children.
I've also "heard" that they will include check - ups for STDs as well. It might be already implemented.
Couples must present their medical clearance in order to get married.
I've also "heard" that they will include check - ups for STDs as well. It might be already implemented.
Couples must present their medical clearance in order to get married.
Mar 7th 2010, 7:07 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
Blood tests for both partners to make sure that there's no chance of "Blood Genetic Disorders" or "Blood Genetic Diseases" that might happen to their children.
I've also "heard" that they will include check - ups for STDs as well. It might be already implemented.
Couples must present their medical clearance in order to get married.
I've also "heard" that they will include check - ups for STDs as well. It might be already implemented.
Couples must present their medical clearance in order to get married.
Mar 7th 2010, 7:11 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
Aye..
Worked with a guy a few years back who was from a wee village halfway between teh Rub Al Khali and Mecca. He was telling me how excited he was at getting married and, as the conversation progressed, I quickly realised that the entire village was an extended family, with no relationships allowed outwith the village..
Mind you, the mono-brow should have told me right away he was from a rapidly reducing gene-puddle....
Worked with a guy a few years back who was from a wee village halfway between teh Rub Al Khali and Mecca. He was telling me how excited he was at getting married and, as the conversation progressed, I quickly realised that the entire village was an extended family, with no relationships allowed outwith the village..
Mind you, the mono-brow should have told me right away he was from a rapidly reducing gene-puddle....
Mar 7th 2010, 7:16 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
The guy and gal may well be medically fit but, if they are genetically related, their union will cause deformity. You marry your cousin at your peril. It's basically an easy option taken by many Saudis because their primitive culture prohibits the opposite sexes socialising. Sorry, but there it is.
Mar 7th 2010, 7:24 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
Mind you, the mono-brow should have told me right away he was from a rapidly reducing gene-puddle....
Mar 7th 2010, 7:52 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
Well, lets hope none of her children turn out like this. It's my understanding that there are 3 carrier test, none of which are 100% accurate as some mutated genes are hidden.
Mar 7th 2010, 8:07 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
well ,, it is a very horrible scene , the picture with the deformed child..
the genetic diseases are really scary....
But in my case , i think it is quite different ,, my father and my mother are not genetically related , they come from differrent races ,and this cousin of my mother comes from a mixed family , as well ,his mother and father r not relatives..
in spite of the fact that i love him ,It is better for both of us staying away though he is the only option at the moment
Last edited by Sarah111; Mar 7th 2010 at 8:10 am.
Mar 7th 2010, 8:15 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
well ,, it is a very horrible scene , the picture with the deformed child..
the genetic diseases are really scary....
But in my case , i think it is quite different ,, my father and my mother are not genetically related , they come from differrent races ,and this cousin of my mother comes from a mixed family , as well ,his mother and father r not relatives..
in spite of the fact that i love him ,It is better for both of us staying away though he is the only option at the moment
the genetic diseases are really scary....
But in my case , i think it is quite different ,, my father and my mother are not genetically related , they come from differrent races ,and this cousin of my mother comes from a mixed family , as well ,his mother and father r not relatives..
in spite of the fact that i love him ,It is better for both of us staying away though he is the only option at the moment
The genetic disease/deformation only occur after generation of in-breeding I belive! "correct me if I am wrong
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Mar 7th 2010, 8:35 am
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Re: Saudi Woman's point of view.
well ,, it is a very horrible scene , the picture with the deformed child..
the genetic diseases are really scary....
But in my case , i think it is quite different ,, my father and my mother are not genetically related , they come from differrent races ,and this cousin of my mother comes from a mixed family , as well ,his mother and father r not relatives..
in spite of the fact that i love him ,It is better for both of us staying away though he is the only option at the moment
the genetic diseases are really scary....
But in my case , i think it is quite different ,, my father and my mother are not genetically related , they come from differrent races ,and this cousin of my mother comes from a mixed family , as well ,his mother and father r not relatives..
in spite of the fact that i love him ,It is better for both of us staying away though he is the only option at the moment