scrubbedexpat141

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Meanwhile the German government (thank goodness for dual nationality) via their embassies have asked its citizens to update their details on their standing crisis management database, have mobilized repatriation efforts with EUR 50MM of funding.

Millhouse

I'm still of the opinion that this will end through boredom before it ends through herd immunity, vaccination or a cure.

My step-mum is currently looking after two neighbours with it, both about 50, they are doing just fine at home with her leaving food on the doorstep. No hospital drama, or sudden death [yet anyway].

csdf

I'm not sure why you'd want to head towards the UK, given the enormous cluster*uck that will happen in the next seven days.

scrubbedexpat141

Which in fairness, lends itself to your opinion.
Many, many more people have it that the numbers indicate, they just aren't old or being hospitalised or being counted. Many are probably getting it, dealing with it and not making it official. I'm sure when the UK was around 1500 the prediction for actual cases was 35-50,000.

If I got it I would't go ringing the authorities I don't think. I wouldn't ring a hospital unless I needed the help badly so would be unlikely to be counted (aside from not getting it, this is obviously the best possible outcome).

Boomhauer

Yeah, now it seems that staying the UAE might be preferable to going back to the UK, if you feel there is a high chance of contracting the virus. The alarm bells are being sounded that the NHS can not cope with what is going to unfold. Johnson says the NHS could be overwhelmed like Italy. Yet this is the chap who wanted the whole country to be infected , assuming herd immuity develops. I can't fathom what possessed Johnson and Co. to ever consider mass public infection as a viable strategy !

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...rce=reddit.com

HiHo

I could not agree more, keep calm and carry on. Repatriating Brits would put cabin crew and expats alike at needless risk of infection. The Germans may well be considering repatriation but they only applied boarder control a couple of days ago! That's why the place surpassed cluster *uck a long time back. By restricting our movement, we delay the spread and give the hardworking people in healthcare a fighting chance.
My parents are in isolation and will be for 4 months. Lets hope its over by Christmas. stay safe and well.

scrubbedexpat141

Anyone checked their medical to see if it covers pandemics?

DXBtoDOH

Because better now than next winter.

Destroy the economy and throw tens of millions of healthy workers out of work to save a handful of pensioners who would be dying in the next year anyway, only to have the virus come rearing right back next winter. You may not like Johnson but his and the NHS advisers are not ignorant internet armchair experts. The data coming out of Italy is quite clear, average age of death 80, vast majority have severe underlying health conditions, 3/4ths are men.

No one likes death and no one wants to die but destroying the economy isn't an answer either. The virus is a terrible thing but a lockdown for the next 18 months isn't a solution.

HiHo

The way this is going the Army will be taking care of Law and Order in many places soon, Fortunately the British Army have some experience but it wont be good enough. God alone knows what the liberal press will make of it all.

HVO_1111

Hi,

Recent returnee to the UK from the UAE. I know - perfect timing, right?
I read this forum on a regular basis and with cabin fever taking hold, thought I would try to contribute with how I see the current situation.

There are rumors of a strict lockdown to come next week as people have not been taking this seriously. Anyone who thinks this is a virus that the old folks have to worry about doesn't really understand the situation on the ground. My brother's dad-in-law is a pulmonary specialist and he's told us that they are seeing more and more cases of healthy young people dying from this - people with no underlying health issues. I know, everyone claims to know an expert but we really do know one.

A proper, enforced lockdown is needed at this stage as the government has faffed about with ''herd immunity'' and with each day that passes, more damning stories come out about Mr.Vallance and Classic Dom being behind that particular strategy. It seems that Macron called Boris early last Friday and threatened to shut France's borders with the UK and that spurred Boris into some sort of action. Plenty of criticism of Boris not being visible enough but also credit being given to Rishi Sunak for taking unprecedented measures to try to help people and calls for him to do more - which is likely to happen next week. Some people seeing Sunak as a future PM.

However, people are not taking social distancing or isolation seriously enough - plenty of stories about beaches being full, people going out drinking, etc. I actually drove through the streets of west London on Friday night and honestly, I'm sure the last time I saw pubs so busy was during the Golden Jubilee weekend. Whatever your view on this virus is, I think prevention is better than the cure and I hope to God that this lack of concern doesn't come back to bite us on the ass a couple of weeks from now.

I would love to be in a position in a few months' time where we are annoyed at how this has been blown out of all proportion but I fear it won't turn out like that. What's required now is for a properly enforced lockdown to happen and for the Army to be brought in to deal with some of this. I'm a social liberal but would be happy to surrender some of those liberties if that meant saving lives and better discipline about this.

For those people who argue that these old people were going to die anyway- that may be so. But do you believe that when it comes to your own old?

Hopefully, this pandemic might lead to some changes in the way society works.I see a lot of people looking out for their neighbors and realizing how they take everyday things for granted. Maybe that's a tad idealistic but it's the hope that kills you.

Millhouse

Welcome!

assuming you are in home quarantine, how does it work? Are you allowed out at all? Do you have an ankle bracelet or something? Did you get a set of rules? What about the family do they get put into isolation by association?

I just hope I can walk the dog during lockdown. He won’t be my best friend if we have to live inside all day long together.

HVO_1111

I don't have the virus - no enforced quarantine yet by anyone - I have decided to ''socially distance'' myself as we were sent home from work on Friday 13th and we all now work from home. The government has advised people to stay at home which I am doing as I simply don't know enough about the virus to take a chance. I know quite a few people in the NHS (some old school mates whom I haven't spoken to for years but felt this was the time to reconnect) so I listen to them with their increasingly worrying accounts of this over people who think this is just a really bad version of the 'flu.

Other people are out and about, just seeing pics on Twitter from Victoria Park where they are doing everything but distancing. This is why a full lockdown is needed - we just don't know what we are dealing with but statistics show that we are following Italy's trajectory with a 2-week delay.

If an enforced lockdown comes into force, they'll probably do what they do in France and stop people and ask them to show a piece of paper as to why they're out and about.I think you'll be allowed out and about especially to exercise/walk to dog but no gatherings, being too close, etc.
Ankle bracelets are a good idea. Maybe put in production some that taser you in you stray too far from your front door.

nonthaburi

UK death rate is actually on a steeper curve than Italy.

Just found out today . Elderly relative has got it. Probably got it in hospital as she was there anyway.

HVO_1111

Damn.Hope they make a speedy and full recovery.