Unique question
Mar 30th 2011, 6:42 pm
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Re: Unique question
My dear Ian: Don't misquote me. 
It was a in-house State Department joke, not USCIS. The ranking was Low Fraud, Medium Fraud, High Fraud, Lagos. DOS would have "training posts" for various issues. For example, crime issues were within the expertise of Moscow; fraud within the expertise of Lagos.
That said, Lagos does, in fact, issue visas. I have not completed the thread yet. I wonder if OP has consulted about "TCN" issues?
Furthermore, deponent sayeth not.
It was a in-house State Department joke, not USCIS. The ranking was Low Fraud, Medium Fraud, High Fraud, Lagos. DOS would have "training posts" for various issues. For example, crime issues were within the expertise of Moscow; fraud within the expertise of Lagos.That said, Lagos does, in fact, issue visas. I have not completed the thread yet. I wonder if OP has consulted about "TCN" issues?
Furthermore, deponent sayeth not.
Mar 30th 2011, 6:45 pm
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Re: Unique question
Consulted with who(m)?
I consulted with him.
I consulted with he.
If you can answer "him", use "whom" (they both end in "m").
If you can answer "he", use "who" (no "m" at all).
/end grammar lesson
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Mar 30th 2011, 6:47 pm
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Mar 30th 2011, 6:48 pm
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Re: Unique question
hehehe...in this case..."whom". The trick is to answer the question and see if you should use "he" or "him".
Consulted with who(m)?
I consulted with him.
I consulted with he.
If you can answer "him", use "whom" (they both end in "m").
If you can answer "he", use "who" (no "m" at all).
/end grammar lesson
Rene
Consulted with who(m)?
I consulted with him.
I consulted with he.
If you can answer "him", use "whom" (they both end in "m").
If you can answer "he", use "who" (no "m" at all).
/end grammar lesson
Rene
Last edited by S Folinsky; Mar 30th 2011 at 6:51 pm.
Mar 30th 2011, 6:58 pm
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Re: Unique question
Totally and utterly OT: "Who is on first."
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Mar 30th 2011, 7:19 pm
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Re: Unique question
hehehe...in this case..."whom". The trick is to answer the question and see if you should use "he" or "him".
Consulted with who(m)?
I consulted with him.
I consulted with he.
If you can answer "him", use "whom" (they both end in "m").
If you can answer "he", use "who" (no "m" at all).
/end grammar lesson
Rene
Consulted with who(m)?
I consulted with him.
I consulted with he.
If you can answer "him", use "whom" (they both end in "m").
If you can answer "he", use "who" (no "m" at all).
/end grammar lesson
Rene
. Thanks!
Mar 30th 2011, 8:24 pm
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Re: Unique question
thanks for your replies...the nigerian fraud jokes aside, i will just go ahead as planned. Her address is still UK, she still gets her mail there and she is returning there and if asked there is nothing to hide, she can say do you want my UK or Nigerian address...for mail correspondence, we will keep it UK since her passport says her Nigerian address either way.....
No one is defrauding any one, we will just have documents to back it up. I emailed the consulate and they said to come back to london and send it...so...i don't want a headache over this anymore....
No one is defrauding any one, we will just have documents to back it up. I emailed the consulate and they said to come back to london and send it...so...i don't want a headache over this anymore....
Mar 30th 2011, 8:36 pm
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Re: Unique question
Ian, I don't think the State Department publicizes all refusal rates, but Nigerian B visa (business/tourism) applicants in 2010 suffered 'only' a 33.7% refusal rate. http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY10.pdf
It could well be that K applicants are more commonly refused.
It could well be that K applicants are more commonly refused.
Mar 30th 2011, 8:37 pm
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Re: Unique question
I don't think anyone here was joking about it; the Nigeria factor is something you do have to consider. Thank the people who have come before you.
Maybe you haven't looked at the application forms but they frequently ask for a residence address (your address) and a mailing address. One doesn't necessarily live at their mailing address, so that reasoning is faulty.
The form questions should be answered accurately.
Maybe you haven't looked at the application forms but they frequently ask for a residence address (your address) and a mailing address. One doesn't necessarily live at their mailing address, so that reasoning is faulty.
The form questions should be answered accurately.
Mar 30th 2011, 8:40 pm
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Re: Unique question
well in that case the only two places where they ask for address is DS230 and DS156.....230 says present address (inclined to put UK) 156 says Home address...(UK or Lagos?)...considering on the forms all filled out in the start have all been UK addy since she was attending school there at the time
Mar 30th 2011, 8:50 pm
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Re: Unique question
Look, where she lived when the first petition form was filled out has NO bearing on today. People do move. It is OK to have a different address now. Her home is clearly in Lagos.
That said, it appears that London WILL take her case. Why screw it up trying to be funny with the details.
Anyway, I think everyone has said what they have to say on this. The choice is your fiancee's to make. Good luck and let us know if you learn anything new or get a result.
That said, it appears that London WILL take her case. Why screw it up trying to be funny with the details.
Anyway, I think everyone has said what they have to say on this. The choice is your fiancee's to make. Good luck and let us know if you learn anything new or get a result.
Mar 30th 2011, 8:53 pm
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Re: Unique question
well in that case the only two places where they ask for address is DS230 and DS156.....230 says present address (inclined to put UK) 156 says Home address...(UK or Lagos?)...considering on the forms all filled out in the start have all been UK addy since she was attending school there at the time
She lives in Nigeria.
Her permanent address is in Nigeria.
Her home address is in Nigeria.
She will be a visitor in the UK.
Her UK address is a mailing address only, has nothing to do with where she lives.
Present address = Nigeria
Home address = Nigeria
Mailing address = UK
Fill out the forms honestly, knowing that her permanent home is Nigeria, and that she currently lives in Nigeria. If a form asks for a resident address, it's Nigeria. If it asks for a mailing address, you can use UK.
You can also put "see attached" wherever you see a spot on the form asking for "address". Then you can put your brief explanation on a separate sheet of paper, saying that when you began this process, she was a student in the UK at <UK address>. She has since completed her studies and returned home to Nigeria at <Nigerian address>. She has been given the opportunity to return to the UK for visa processing, so she continues to use <UK address> as her mailing address only.
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Last edited by Noorah101; Mar 30th 2011 at 8:56 pm.
Mar 31st 2011, 5:26 pm
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Re: Unique question
You will see that fraud line about Lagos all over the Internet.
United years ago ago used to be next to Air Nigeria at Heathrow, I was always amazed about the amount of luggage piled high.
I do not know what they will say, usually they would not deal with someone on a Visitor Visa in London, the logical situation would have been to have the papers transferred when she left.
United years ago ago used to be next to Air Nigeria at Heathrow, I was always amazed about the amount of luggage piled high.
I do not know what they will say, usually they would not deal with someone on a Visitor Visa in London, the logical situation would have been to have the papers transferred when she left.
