Packet 3 help!
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Packet 3 help!
Howdy folks,
I feel like I need another degree to get through all these forms! I'm filling out Packet 3 as part of a K1 application whilst I wait for my police certificate and would just like to check a few things if someone could help me out.
DS-230 Part 1:
I'm guessing I only submit pages 1 and 2, or do I submit a blank 3 and 4?
For all educational institutions this means primary right through university? And I guess I just put GCSE, A-Level, etc as appropriate for the first of those?
DS-157:
One of my previous employers was liquidated, I don't think there is a contact address any more but I could supply a contact number for my old boss. I'd think that would be sufficient?
For professional/social/charitable organizations how far back do I go? I was a member of the IEEE for about two years. I was in the Cub Scouts too when I was 10! Should I list this? Seems silly but you never know with these things
Finally could anyone shed light on 'educational institutions which are vocational but not elementary'? Vocational to me would mean directly related to work, which would be my Electronics degree at university?
DS-156K:
Confusingly says attach your evidence but you shouldn't send anything but the forms, so I'll ignore that for now.
Evidence of engagement I have photos from the engagement party, engagement cards and one of the invitations that was sent out.
Evidence of financial support is confusing me, I presume that this isn't I-864 as this isn't required at this stage. I have two copies of my fiancee's tax returns and I can get bank statements and wage slips to show that I'm earning and have money in the bank. Is this is what is required by this?
Thanks all for your help folks, this forum really helps keep me sane!
I feel like I need another degree to get through all these forms! I'm filling out Packet 3 as part of a K1 application whilst I wait for my police certificate and would just like to check a few things if someone could help me out.
DS-230 Part 1:
I'm guessing I only submit pages 1 and 2, or do I submit a blank 3 and 4?
For all educational institutions this means primary right through university? And I guess I just put GCSE, A-Level, etc as appropriate for the first of those?
DS-157:
One of my previous employers was liquidated, I don't think there is a contact address any more but I could supply a contact number for my old boss. I'd think that would be sufficient?
For professional/social/charitable organizations how far back do I go? I was a member of the IEEE for about two years. I was in the Cub Scouts too when I was 10! Should I list this? Seems silly but you never know with these things
Finally could anyone shed light on 'educational institutions which are vocational but not elementary'? Vocational to me would mean directly related to work, which would be my Electronics degree at university?
DS-156K:
Confusingly says attach your evidence but you shouldn't send anything but the forms, so I'll ignore that for now.
Evidence of engagement I have photos from the engagement party, engagement cards and one of the invitations that was sent out.
Evidence of financial support is confusing me, I presume that this isn't I-864 as this isn't required at this stage. I have two copies of my fiancee's tax returns and I can get bank statements and wage slips to show that I'm earning and have money in the bank. Is this is what is required by this?
Thanks all for your help folks, this forum really helps keep me sane!
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Re: Packet 3 help!
Evidence of financial support is confusing me, I presume that this isn't I-864 as this isn't required at this stage. I have two copies of my fiancee's tax returns and I can get bank statements and wage slips to show that I'm earning and have money in the bank. Is this is what is required by this?
If she doesn't earn enough, she can get someone else who does to fill in the I-134 as your sponsor.
If you yourself have enough savings in the bank (there's no set amount, but 3x the amount she would have needed in income is a good ballpark figure), then you can show proof of your own savings in the bank instead of providing an I-134.
Your earnings won't count for this, only savings in the bank.
Rene
Last edited by Noorah101; Jun 27th 2010 at 5:56 pm.
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Re: Packet 3 help!
QUOTE=yellowfruit;
DS-230 Part 1:
I'm guessing I only submit pages 1 and 2, or do I submit a blank 3 and 4?
For all educational institutions this means primary right through university? And I guess I just put GCSE, A-Level, etc as appropriate for the first of those?
K visas only need page 1 & 2 of DS-230.
DS-157:
One of my previous employers was liquidated, I don't think there is a contact address any more but I could supply a contact number for my old boss. I'd think that would be sufficient?
Just put the information that was valid when you worked there.
For professional/social/charitable organizations how far back do I go? I was a member of the IEEE for about two years. I was in the Cub Scouts too when I was 10! Should I list this? Seems silly but you never know with these things
This is your personal call.
Finally could anyone shed light on 'educational institutions which are vocational but not elementary'? Vocational to me would mean directly related to work, which would be my Electronics degree at university?
Vocational schools are things like, professional diving school (for commercial work), welding school etc. Not university.
Elementary school in the US = Primary school in the UK
DS-156K:
Confusingly says attach your evidence but you shouldn't send anything but the forms, so I'll ignore that for now.
That's worded poorly.. take your evidence to the interview and do not submit it ahead of time. You shuold always follow the local instructions (the IV checklist, in your case) over the form instructions.
Evidence of engagement I have photos from the engagement party, engagement cards and one of the invitations that was sent out.
Evidence of financial support is confusing me, I presume that this isn't I-864 as this isn't required at this stage. I have two copies of my fiancee's tax returns and I can get bank statements and wage slips to show that I'm earning and have money in the bank. Is this is what is required by this?
There is a page on the Embassy website (if you follow all the links for fiance visas on their site, you'll get lots of supporting information) that explicitly states what Evidence of Support a K visa applicant needs. Looks like you are missing a few things.
Let me know if you look and can not find that page; it's linked from at least two of the main fiance visa pages at their site.
DS-230 Part 1:
I'm guessing I only submit pages 1 and 2, or do I submit a blank 3 and 4?
For all educational institutions this means primary right through university? And I guess I just put GCSE, A-Level, etc as appropriate for the first of those?
K visas only need page 1 & 2 of DS-230.
DS-157:
One of my previous employers was liquidated, I don't think there is a contact address any more but I could supply a contact number for my old boss. I'd think that would be sufficient?
Just put the information that was valid when you worked there.
For professional/social/charitable organizations how far back do I go? I was a member of the IEEE for about two years. I was in the Cub Scouts too when I was 10! Should I list this? Seems silly but you never know with these things
This is your personal call.
Finally could anyone shed light on 'educational institutions which are vocational but not elementary'? Vocational to me would mean directly related to work, which would be my Electronics degree at university?
Vocational schools are things like, professional diving school (for commercial work), welding school etc. Not university.
Elementary school in the US = Primary school in the UK
DS-156K:
Confusingly says attach your evidence but you shouldn't send anything but the forms, so I'll ignore that for now.
That's worded poorly.. take your evidence to the interview and do not submit it ahead of time. You shuold always follow the local instructions (the IV checklist, in your case) over the form instructions.
Evidence of engagement I have photos from the engagement party, engagement cards and one of the invitations that was sent out.
Evidence of financial support is confusing me, I presume that this isn't I-864 as this isn't required at this stage. I have two copies of my fiancee's tax returns and I can get bank statements and wage slips to show that I'm earning and have money in the bank. Is this is what is required by this?
There is a page on the Embassy website (if you follow all the links for fiance visas on their site, you'll get lots of supporting information) that explicitly states what Evidence of Support a K visa applicant needs. Looks like you are missing a few things.
Let me know if you look and can not find that page; it's linked from at least two of the main fiance visa pages at their site.
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Re: Packet 3 help!
Ah don't you just love dealing with the government. Any government.
Okay I've seen the I-134 tucked away on:
http://london.usembassy.gov/interview_documents.html
It's worth noting that I-134 doesn't appear in the wiki index and it's only on the general K1 page, not the London applicant's page!
So I need a I-134 now, and later once I go though AOS I'll need to do this again with an I-864?
I left out other supporting documents as I'm not confused about those. From the page above I believe the full list is:
Birth Certificate (Mine)
Police Certificate (Sent, just waiting for this back)
Evidence of engagement (Which I haven't seen mentioned on any embassy pages, but is on the form, again I've seen people use photos, invitations etc, there is no ring! Also I believe an updated letter of intent stating we're engaged and still intend to marry etc)
Evidence of financial support (I-134 + "letter from employer, a few recent pay stubs")
I've not been married and therefore not divorced, no deaths either! I think I also saw somewhere that I should take the original I-129F application and RFE documents, which my fiancee brought over on her last visit!
This does seem a bit too straight forward, I'm surely missing something.
Thanks all!
Matthew
Okay I've seen the I-134 tucked away on:
http://london.usembassy.gov/interview_documents.html
It's worth noting that I-134 doesn't appear in the wiki index and it's only on the general K1 page, not the London applicant's page!
So I need a I-134 now, and later once I go though AOS I'll need to do this again with an I-864?
I left out other supporting documents as I'm not confused about those. From the page above I believe the full list is:
Birth Certificate (Mine)
Police Certificate (Sent, just waiting for this back)
Evidence of engagement (Which I haven't seen mentioned on any embassy pages, but is on the form, again I've seen people use photos, invitations etc, there is no ring! Also I believe an updated letter of intent stating we're engaged and still intend to marry etc)
Evidence of financial support (I-134 + "letter from employer, a few recent pay stubs")
I've not been married and therefore not divorced, no deaths either! I think I also saw somewhere that I should take the original I-129F application and RFE documents, which my fiancee brought over on her last visit!
This does seem a bit too straight forward, I'm surely missing something.
Thanks all!
Matthew
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Re: Packet 3 help!
So I need a I-134 now, and later once I go though AOS I'll need to do this again with an I-864?
This does seem a bit too straight forward, I'm surely missing something.
Rene
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Re: Packet 3 help!
Thanks Noorah101! The wiki page is:
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/K1_London_Applications
Just to confirm, I leave DS-157 item 17 - which is:
"List all educational institutions you attend or have attended. Include vocational institutions but not elementary schools."
As N/A as I have not attended any vocational institutions, and leave the full list of primary/secondary/6th form/university for DS-230 Part 1 (List below all educational institutions attended.)
Back on the right path now I think, thanks
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/K1_London_Applications
Just to confirm, I leave DS-157 item 17 - which is:
"List all educational institutions you attend or have attended. Include vocational institutions but not elementary schools."
As N/A as I have not attended any vocational institutions, and leave the full list of primary/secondary/6th form/university for DS-230 Part 1 (List below all educational institutions attended.)
Back on the right path now I think, thanks
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Re: Packet 3 help!
FWIW, London is re-doing their website and have taken down about half the useful pages they used to have up.
sigh, yeah, I don't kow how people are supposed to really figure it out anymore. We need recent applicants to step up and answer some of these questions and help document any changes made recently.
sigh, yeah, I don't kow how people are supposed to really figure it out anymore. We need recent applicants to step up and answer some of these questions and help document any changes made recently.