Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
Jun 24th 2006, 5:03 am
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Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
Is this possible? I have been talking with a filipina for over 3 years now. We are in the process of a B2 visa so she can
come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
Thanks in advance
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come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
Thanks in advance
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Jun 24th 2006, 5:54 am
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
A tourist visa for a young single Philippine woman? That's as likely as
a Brazilian growing a tree. :D
It's perfectly legal to marry anyone on any status in the US, but she
is supposed to go back to here home country and then you file for a K-3
visa.
Considering that you and her are already planning for her to live and
stay in the US, I think it will be hard for her to prove strong ties to
her home countries and reasons to return to her country after her visit
to the US as the Us requires her to PROVE that she has non-immigrant
intent.
Maybe it would be better if you test the waters in the Phillipines? You
can start the K-1 right away, and use the waiting time for a long
vacation and getting to know each other outside the US. This option
will not be easy if you are employed as few amployers like to see their
employees take long leaves.
a Brazilian growing a tree. :D
It's perfectly legal to marry anyone on any status in the US, but she
is supposed to go back to here home country and then you file for a K-3
visa.
Considering that you and her are already planning for her to live and
stay in the US, I think it will be hard for her to prove strong ties to
her home countries and reasons to return to her country after her visit
to the US as the Us requires her to PROVE that she has non-immigrant
intent.
Maybe it would be better if you test the waters in the Phillipines? You
can start the K-1 right away, and use the waiting time for a long
vacation and getting to know each other outside the US. This option
will not be easy if you are employed as few amployers like to see their
employees take long leaves.
Jun 24th 2006, 6:04 am
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
Originally Posted by Husker15
Is this possible? I have been talking with a filipina for over 3 years now. We are in the process of a B2 visa so she can
come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
Thanks in advance
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come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
Thanks in advance
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The other question has issues that are best left to raise if she by some miracle gets a visa.
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Jun 24th 2006, 6:43 am
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
Originally Posted by Husker15
Is this possible? I have been talking with a filipina for over 3 years now. We are in the process of a B2 visa so she can
come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
Jun 24th 2006, 3:38 pm
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
"husker15" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| Is this possible? I have been talking with a filipina for over 3 years
now. We are in the process of a B2 visa so she can
| come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it
possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
| she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
|
| Thanks in advance
|
| --
Make sure she is not married in the Philippines. There is no divorce in the
Philippines but it is a very common scam for married Filipinas to travel to
the U.S on B1/B2 visa claiming to be unmarried and single. Commonly they
overstay to work and try to find somebody to marry them in order to be able
to continue their stay in the U.S. A significant number of them do so. If
you marry her and she turns out to be still married in the Philippines, she
would be deported when she gets found in the future for fraud and
misrepresentation. It does not matter that she is already married to you, a
USC, since the marriage was illegal in the first place. Theirs no waiver for
such a fraud.
It's just a warning. She may turn out to be alright but you need to make
sure before you jump in for the sake of your good future.
news:[email protected]...
| Is this possible? I have been talking with a filipina for over 3 years
now. We are in the process of a B2 visa so she can
| come here and see how she likes it. If all goes well we will marry. Is it
possible she can stay here if that happens, or must
| she go back and then go thru the k-3 visa process?
|
| Thanks in advance
|
| --
Make sure she is not married in the Philippines. There is no divorce in the
Philippines but it is a very common scam for married Filipinas to travel to
the U.S on B1/B2 visa claiming to be unmarried and single. Commonly they
overstay to work and try to find somebody to marry them in order to be able
to continue their stay in the U.S. A significant number of them do so. If
you marry her and she turns out to be still married in the Philippines, she
would be deported when she gets found in the future for fraud and
misrepresentation. It does not matter that she is already married to you, a
USC, since the marriage was illegal in the first place. Theirs no waiver for
such a fraud.
It's just a warning. She may turn out to be alright but you need to make
sure before you jump in for the sake of your good future.
Jun 24th 2006, 4:38 pm
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
Thanks for the warnings, and the "optimism". She owns land, has a good job and has already come to the U.S. on a tourist
visa two years ago. This is why I ask this question, because it is very likely she will come again on the tourist visa, and
if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
On 23 Jun 2006 22:54:01 -0700, "Martijn" <[email protected]> wrote:
>A tourist visa for a young single Philippine woman? That's as likely as
>a Brazilian growing a tree. :D
>It's perfectly legal to marry anyone on any status in the US, but she
>is supposed to go back to here home country and then you file for a K-3
>visa.
>Considering that you and her are already planning for her to live and
>stay in the US, I think it will be hard for her to prove strong ties to
>her home countries and reasons to return to her country after her visit
>to the US as the Us requires her to PROVE that she has non-immigrant
>intent.
>Maybe it would be better if you test the waters in the Phillipines? You
>can start the K-1 right away, and use the waiting time for a long
>vacation and getting to know each other outside the US. This option
>will not be easy if you are employed as few amployers like to see their
>employees take long leaves.
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visa two years ago. This is why I ask this question, because it is very likely she will come again on the tourist visa, and
if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
On 23 Jun 2006 22:54:01 -0700, "Martijn" <[email protected]> wrote:
>A tourist visa for a young single Philippine woman? That's as likely as
>a Brazilian growing a tree. :D
>It's perfectly legal to marry anyone on any status in the US, but she
>is supposed to go back to here home country and then you file for a K-3
>visa.
>Considering that you and her are already planning for her to live and
>stay in the US, I think it will be hard for her to prove strong ties to
>her home countries and reasons to return to her country after her visit
>to the US as the Us requires her to PROVE that she has non-immigrant
>intent.
>Maybe it would be better if you test the waters in the Phillipines? You
>can start the K-1 right away, and use the waiting time for a long
>vacation and getting to know each other outside the US. This option
>will not be easy if you are employed as few amployers like to see their
>employees take long leaves.
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Jun 24th 2006, 4:39 pm
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
Originally Posted by Voltes34
"husker15" <[email protected]>
Make sure she is not married in the Philippines. There is no divorce in the
Philippines but it is a very common scam for married Filipinas to travel to
the U.S on B1/B2 visa claiming to be unmarried and single. Commonly they
overstay to work and try to find somebody to marry them in order to be able
to continue their stay in the U.S. A significant number of them do so. If
you marry her and she turns out to be still married in the Philippines, she
would be deported when she gets found in the future for fraud and
misrepresentation. It does not matter that she is already married to you, a
USC, since the marriage was illegal in the first place. Theirs no waiver for
such a fraud.
It's just a warning. She may turn out to be alright but you need to make
sure before you jump in for the sake of your good future.
Make sure she is not married in the Philippines. There is no divorce in the
Philippines but it is a very common scam for married Filipinas to travel to
the U.S on B1/B2 visa claiming to be unmarried and single. Commonly they
overstay to work and try to find somebody to marry them in order to be able
to continue their stay in the U.S. A significant number of them do so. If
you marry her and she turns out to be still married in the Philippines, she
would be deported when she gets found in the future for fraud and
misrepresentation. It does not matter that she is already married to you, a
USC, since the marriage was illegal in the first place. Theirs no waiver for
such a fraud.
It's just a warning. She may turn out to be alright but you need to make
sure before you jump in for the sake of your good future.
The CENOMAR will show if the NSO has any marriages recorded for her.
You can request them online too.
https://www.ecensus.com.ph/Secure/frmIndex.asp
Jun 24th 2006, 5:39 pm
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
The visa K-1 is out there for the exact purpose you are trying to
acheive. With a K-1, you will not have to worry about proving a
non-immigrant intent (and the related visa fraud suspicion that would
arise if she comes as a tourist), and you will have a much greater
chance of aproval.
Does she know that you intent to marry her? Did you aleady propose her?
If you did so, she is your fiancee. The visa application form asks her
is she has a US fiance, if she answers no, she would be commiting fraud
; if she answers yes, she has a 99% chance that her application will be
denied.
Your next step: http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/fiance.htm
husker15 wrote:
> Thanks for the warnings, and the "optimism". She owns land, has a good job and has already come to the U.S. on a tourist
> visa two years ago. This is why I ask this question, because it is very likely she will come again on the tourist visa, and
> if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
> philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
> On 23 Jun 2006 22:54:01 -0700, "Martijn" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >A tourist visa for a young single Philippine woman? That's as likely as
> >a Brazilian growing a tree. :D
> >
> >It's perfectly legal to marry anyone on any status in the US, but she
> >is supposed to go back to here home country and then you file for a K-3
> >visa.
> >
> >Considering that you and her are already planning for her to live and
> >stay in the US, I think it will be hard for her to prove strong ties to
> >her home countries and reasons to return to her country after her visit
> >to the US as the Us requires her to PROVE that she has non-immigrant
> >intent.
> >
> >Maybe it would be better if you test the waters in the Phillipines? You
> >can start the K-1 right away, and use the waiting time for a long
> >vacation and getting to know each other outside the US. This option
> >will not be easy if you are employed as few amployers like to see their
> >employees take long leaves.
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acheive. With a K-1, you will not have to worry about proving a
non-immigrant intent (and the related visa fraud suspicion that would
arise if she comes as a tourist), and you will have a much greater
chance of aproval.
Does she know that you intent to marry her? Did you aleady propose her?
If you did so, she is your fiancee. The visa application form asks her
is she has a US fiance, if she answers no, she would be commiting fraud
; if she answers yes, she has a 99% chance that her application will be
denied.
Your next step: http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/fiance.htm
husker15 wrote:
> Thanks for the warnings, and the "optimism". She owns land, has a good job and has already come to the U.S. on a tourist
> visa two years ago. This is why I ask this question, because it is very likely she will come again on the tourist visa, and
> if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
> philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
> On 23 Jun 2006 22:54:01 -0700, "Martijn" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >A tourist visa for a young single Philippine woman? That's as likely as
> >a Brazilian growing a tree. :D
> >
> >It's perfectly legal to marry anyone on any status in the US, but she
> >is supposed to go back to here home country and then you file for a K-3
> >visa.
> >
> >Considering that you and her are already planning for her to live and
> >stay in the US, I think it will be hard for her to prove strong ties to
> >her home countries and reasons to return to her country after her visit
> >to the US as the Us requires her to PROVE that she has non-immigrant
> >intent.
> >
> >Maybe it would be better if you test the waters in the Phillipines? You
> >can start the K-1 right away, and use the waiting time for a long
> >vacation and getting to know each other outside the US. This option
> >will not be easy if you are employed as few amployers like to see their
> >employees take long leaves.
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Jun 24th 2006, 10:14 pm
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
husker15 wrote:
> Thanks for the warnings, and the "optimism". She owns land, has a good job and has already come to the U.S. on a tourist
> visa two years ago. This is why I ask this question, because it is very likely she will come again on the tourist visa, and
> if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
> philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
>From your post none of that is clear. And in general, chances for a
young Phillipine woman are slim to zilch, obviously your fiance has
enough ties and assets that she did qualify.
Concerning the question: Yes you can get married and have here stay,
but only if you don't plan this on forehand. Kind of a catch 22
asnwering yes or no to that question you see? And there are many
pittfalls, as one noted, any lie at the POE may come back to haunt you
later on.
Search this NG for "ten feet pole".
> Thanks for the warnings, and the "optimism". She owns land, has a good job and has already come to the U.S. on a tourist
> visa two years ago. This is why I ask this question, because it is very likely she will come again on the tourist visa, and
> if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
> philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
>From your post none of that is clear. And in general, chances for a
young Phillipine woman are slim to zilch, obviously your fiance has
enough ties and assets that she did qualify.
Concerning the question: Yes you can get married and have here stay,
but only if you don't plan this on forehand. Kind of a catch 22
asnwering yes or no to that question you see? And there are many
pittfalls, as one noted, any lie at the POE may come back to haunt you
later on.
Search this NG for "ten feet pole".
Jun 25th 2006, 12:52 am
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Re: Marrying a filipina who is in the U.S. on a B2 Tourist Visa?
Originally Posted by Husker15
This is why I ask this question, because it is very likely she will come again on the tourist visa, and
if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
if in fact we do marry, can she stay? What do we need to do to so that she can stay instead of having to go back to the
philippines first, and going thru months or years of more visas so she can come back?
If you don't want to fork over $100 or so for a consultation with an attorney, then your best bet is to go for the K-1 visa. Believe me, you guys wouldn't be the first couple to spend "months or years" apart while waiting for the correct visa to be together forever. It's not as bad as you think...use the time to get to know each other even better, to fix up the house in preparation, she can use the time to visit all her relatives and friends before immigrating, etc.
Best Wishes,
Rene
