Originally Posted by fatbrit

If you wish to discuss, why not start a new thread rather than hijack other threads with your concerns in a rather bully boy manner.

Originally Posted by Elvira

I'm back.

But he's gone now.

Ah well...

I just hope that dear sweet helpful Rene isn't going to give in to his bullying...

Originally Posted by Elvira

I'm back.

But he's gone now.

Ah well...

I just hope that dear sweet helpful Rene isn't going to give in to his bullying...

Originally Posted by Matthew Udall

Bullying? You can call it bullying all you want, but that doesn't make it so. She's a big girl, and can make up her own mind. And by the way, why do you single her out?

Originally Posted by fatbrit

Still, at least he knows there's a reception committee waiting should he try this crap again.

Originally Posted by Elvira

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noorah101
Can you tell us what consulate you are using, please? Different consulates have different procedures. Once we know what country/consulate, someone here who has experience with that consulate can chime in.

Thanks,
Rene


Matt's replY: "With legal advice?"

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...75#post2987075

Ring a bell?

Several more in a similar vein.

As an innocent bystander I certainly got the impression that you've got it in for her...

Originally Posted by Matthew Udall

Ah, the old Aunt Fanny practicing medicine without a license analogy. I love that one as a similar analogy “always” comes up during these discussions!

But actually, that brings up an interesting point. I don’t have the citation at my fingertips, but I believe the Code of Federal Regulations spells out who can provide legal services (including legal advice) to others and I believe there is an exception that would seem closer to your Aunt Fanny analogy. Perhaps it might be worth looking into, to see if groups like this fall into any of the permitted exceptions or perhaps in figuring out how to get a group into compliance with one of the exceptions.



I don’t think authoring a book would by UPL, nor would a library be in violation by allowing one to visit and read information while there. That is more in line with a true do-it-yourselfer who does their own research.



Non-essentials? You dismiss each legal question as being non-essential? Surly you are not advocating the dismantling of cites like this due to being unnecessary?

So you are familiar with the caseload, or work capacity of every immigration attorney? I’m impressed.

Originally Posted by Matthew Udall

Do you think what might be, and what might not be UPL is determined by popular opinion? As for your last line, ahh, the tyranny of the majority. Who's the bully now? For someone who seems to think everything is OK as long as it is said in a news group, you sure seem to have a keen interested in censorship when it comes to this particular topic. But of course, you are free to have any opinion you wish, and I’ll support you in that.

Originally Posted by Matthew Udall

Than your conclusion is incorrect. But I do see why you singled her out in your posting. Perhaps you think she is a prolific hobbyist?

Man, I can feel the sharks closing in with a smaller circle, and I’m the bait it appears. Nothing new as far as this subject is concerned.

Originally Posted by Elvira

Verfolgungswahn, or what?

Originally Posted by bionomique

Pointing a member to an appropriate form or informing them of a recent fee, or some such information, even if I have not had the occasion to do the same, would be what I construe as a non-essential.

Originally Posted by bionomique

You are advocating that unless we DIYers have done it ourselves and are then entitled to offer our experience, then we've crossed the ubiquitous UPL line.

Originally Posted by bionomique

Yes, I've no doubt you are very busy, as are many professionals. Imagine, however, what pride you would have in your work if you had to belt them out in half the time with half the resources!

Originally Posted by fatbrit

with a hint of BCSD IMVHO!

Originally Posted by fatbrit

We wish to censor a single poster and you wish to censor a whole newsgroup. And, in fact, we do not wish to censor a poster at all but merely to stop that poster censoring others.

Originally Posted by fatbrit

If you wish to discuss the topic, open a thread and I will happily join you. If in another thread the possibility of UPL surfaces, we can then merely direct interested parties to the comments therein and they can come to their own conclusions.

Originally Posted by Elvira

... and he seems to have way too much time on his hand for a busy lawyers who probably charges $200+ an hour...

Either that or we're getting to him!

Originally Posted by Matthew Udall

Which is the real agenda here, isn't it? Forget the subject matter and whether or not there is any merit to it. Glad you cleared that up, and that you seem to be enjoying yourself ;-).