Anthony

I am not an expert, but have been reading similar post from others and
expert's opinion. Generally speaking, it is very difficult (if not
impossible) for a citizen from Visa Waiver Countries to get a B1/B2 visa.
The people from these countries apply for B1/B2 visa only for 2 main
reasons:
*They are not eligible for Visa Waiver due to criminal conviction, past
immigration violations, etc.
*They intend to stay more than 3 months (maximum under visa waiver),
which raise eyebrows to consular officials to believe genuine tourists can
leave their work/primary residence that long if they indeed have
strong/sufficient ties to the home country as required in B1/B2 visa.


"Wemic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Bob wrote:
    > >>Bob wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>>helenab wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>>Hi all,
    > >>>>>>I'm new to all this, so please bear with me. In short, I am a
    > >>>>>>natural
    > >>>>>>born US citizen. I am recently separated (June) from my wife
    > >>>>>>but divo-
    > >>>>>>rce
    > >>>>>>papers have not been filed to date but they are imminent. Two
    > >>>>>>weeks
    > >>>>>>after my separation, while on a business trip to NYC, I met a
    > >>>>>>Japanese
    > >>>>>>woman who was here on vacation and we have since fallen for ea-
    > >>>>>>ch othe-
    > >>>>>>r.
    > >>>>>> She returned to Japan a few weeks ago. We think we would like to
    > >>>>>> marry
    > >>>>>> eventually. Before that happens, she would like to live with me
    > >>>>>> here
    > >>>>>> in
    > >>>>>> the US to see if she can adjust to life here. We would like this
    > >>>>>> to
    > >>>>>> happen sooner rather than later but my divorce process is likely
    > >>>>>> to be
    > >>>>>> lengthy. Obviously, a fiancee visa is out of the question for
    > >>>>>> now.
    > >>>>>> Do-
    > >>>>>> es
    > >>>>>> anyone have an option they can suggest? My girlfriend is 39 and
    > >>>>>> a
    > >>>>>> rather successful business owner in Japan. She can operate her
    > >>>>>> bu-
    > >>>>>> sine-
    > >>>>>> ss
    > >>>>>> from here.
    > >>>>>> Thanks in advance.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>You do realise that if she comes here on a tourist visa, she can't
    > >>>>>wo-
    > >>>>>rk or get a social security number or drivers license, which will
    > >>>>>obv-
    > >>>>>iously limit the "adjustment" of living in this country? I could
    > >>>>>ne-
    > >>>>>ver
    > >>>>>have gotten a feeling of home in this country without being able to
    > >>>>>work(make friends there), be able to drive where I want and to have
    > >>>>>a
    > >>>>>SSN so I could get bankaccts, insurances etc. Unless you live in
    > >>>>>the
    > >>>>>center of a city with subway or a decent bus system, it's kind of
    > >>>>>imp-
    > >>>>>ossible to get around.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Thanks for the input. Helen, those are definitely valid things to
    > >>>>consider. I live in a very nice area but public transport is virtu-
    > >>>>al-
    > >>>>ly
    > >>>>non-existent. She appears to be quite comfortable financially as a
    > >>>>result of her business but these are definitely concerns.
    > >>>>Boiler, Japan is a waiver country but I misunderstand why it would
    > >>>>be
    > >>>>a
    > >>>>problem to go for a B2 unless a consular official would be made
    > >>>>suspicious by her wanting to go through the slower process. Also,
    > >>>>waiver is only for 90 days whereas the B2 is up to one year.
    > >>>>I may be answering my own question here but my girlfriend's business
    > >>>>involves the export and distribution of product to the US. I'm
    > >>>>beginning to think a business trip on a B1 visa might be her ticket.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>B2 would be stamped for a max of 6 month stay when you get to the
    > >>>States
    > >>>though.
    > >>>B1 for that purpose might be the way to go if she will only be over
    > >>>see-
    > >>>ing things, I think.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>If I understand, can't the B2 be renewed up to an additional 6 month-
    > >>s?
    > >>Also as far as the B1 is concerned, I'm wondering how subtantial the
    > >>business she would have to conduct be. She has no US staff to my kn-
    > >>owledge.
    > >
    > >
    > > The visa is valid for quite a while, but can only use it to stay for 6
    > > month max, and in theory you can apply to extend it, but to be honest,
    > > they hardly ever give that the ok, because would need to prove you don't
    > > have immigration intentions.
    > > I can't help with the B1 though
    > >
    > Oh yes, I forgot about the immigration intentions part. Frankly, by the
    > time the 6 months are up, the divorce would likely be final.

Bob

Travelling the States, that's a good reason, and it was mine at the time, but then I had also just finished uni.

Wemic

Anthony wrote:

    > I am not an expert, but have been reading similar post from others and
    > expert's opinion. Generally speaking, it is very difficult (if not
    > impossible) for a citizen from Visa Waiver Countries to get a B1/B2 visa.
    > The people from these countries apply for B1/B2 visa only for 2 main
    > reasons:
    > *They are not eligible for Visa Waiver due to criminal conviction, past
    > immigration violations, etc.
    > *They intend to stay more than 3 months (maximum under visa waiver),
    > which raise eyebrows to consular officials to believe genuine tourists can
    > leave their work/primary residence that long if they indeed have
    > strong/sufficient ties to the home country as required in B1/B2 visa.
    >
    >
    > "Wemic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Bob wrote:
    >>>>Bob wrote:
    >>>>>>helenab wrote:
    >>>>>>>>Hi all,
    >>>>>>>>I'm new to all this, so please bear with me. In short, I am a
    >>>>>>>>natural
    >>>>>>>>born US citizen. I am recently separated (June) from my wife
    >>>>>>>>but divo-
    >>>>>>>>rce
    >>>>>>>>papers have not been filed to date but they are imminent. Two
    >>>>>>>>weeks
    >>>>>>>>after my separation, while on a business trip to NYC, I met a
    >>>>>>>>Japanese
    >>>>>>>>woman who was here on vacation and we have since fallen for ea-
    >>>>>>>>ch othe-
    >>>>>>>>r.
    >>>>>>>>She returned to Japan a few weeks ago. We think we would like to
    >>>>>>>>marry
    >>>>>>>>eventually. Before that happens, she would like to live with me
    >>>>>>>>here
    >>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>the US to see if she can adjust to life here. We would like this
    >>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>happen sooner rather than later but my divorce process is likely
    >>>>>>>>to be
    >>>>>>>>lengthy. Obviously, a fiancee visa is out of the question for
    >>>>>>>>now.
    >>>>>>>>Do-
    >>>>>>>>es
    >>>>>>>>anyone have an option they can suggest? My girlfriend is 39 and
    >>>>>>>>a
    >>>>>>>>rather successful business owner in Japan. She can operate her
    >>>>>>>>bu-
    >>>>>>>>sine-
    >>>>>>>>ss
    >>>>>>>>from here.
    >>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
    >>>>>>>You do realise that if she comes here on a tourist visa, she can't
    >>>>>>>wo-
    >>>>>>>rk or get a social security number or drivers license, which will
    >>>>>>>obv-
    >>>>>>>iously limit the "adjustment" of living in this country? I could
    >>>>>>>ne-
    >>>>>>>ver
    >>>>>>>have gotten a feeling of home in this country without being able to
    >>>>>>>work(make friends there), be able to drive where I want and to have
    >>>>>>>a
    >>>>>>>SSN so I could get bankaccts, insurances etc. Unless you live in
    >>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>center of a city with subway or a decent bus system, it's kind of
    >>>>>>>imp-
    >>>>>>>ossible to get around.
    >>>>>>Thanks for the input. Helen, those are definitely valid things to
    >>>>>>consider. I live in a very nice area but public transport is virtu-
    >>>>>>al-
    >>>>>>ly
    >>>>>>non-existent. She appears to be quite comfortable financially as a
    >>>>>>result of her business but these are definitely concerns.
    >>>>>>Boiler, Japan is a waiver country but I misunderstand why it would
    >>>>>>be
    >>>>>>a
    >>>>>>problem to go for a B2 unless a consular official would be made
    >>>>>>suspicious by her wanting to go through the slower process. Also,
    >>>>>>waiver is only for 90 days whereas the B2 is up to one year.
    >>>>>>I may be answering my own question here but my girlfriend's business
    >>>>>>involves the export and distribution of product to the US. I'm
    >>>>>>beginning to think a business trip on a B1 visa might be her ticket.
    >>>>>B2 would be stamped for a max of 6 month stay when you get to the
    >>>>>States
    >>>>>though.
    >>>>>B1 for that purpose might be the way to go if she will only be over
    >>>>>see-
    >>>>>ing things, I think.
    >>>>If I understand, can't the B2 be renewed up to an additional 6 month-
    >>>>s?
    >>>>Also as far as the B1 is concerned, I'm wondering how subtantial the
    >>>>business she would have to conduct be. She has no US staff to my kn-
    >>>>owledge.
    >>>The visa is valid for quite a while, but can only use it to stay for 6
    >>>month max, and in theory you can apply to extend it, but to be honest,
    >>>they hardly ever give that the ok, because would need to prove you don't
    >>>have immigration intentions.
    >>>I can't help with the B1 though
    >>Oh yes, I forgot about the immigration intentions part. Frankly, by the
    >>time the 6 months are up, the divorce would likely be final.
    >
    >
    >

Yes, I have gotten that impression as well. A 90 day looks like all
she's going to get. What I can't seem to find out is how much time she
would have to spend out of country before she can come back.

scrubbedexpat099

It is always at the discretion of the Officer.

This is not a rule but 90 days in and 90 days out.

You will find stories of people who have gone in and out without any trouble and those who have failed on their first trip.

You need to bear in mind that the VWP is up to 90 days, now in the majority of cases if you are let in you get the 90 day stamp, but they could (should?) just give you the time line you have asked for. Most people coming on Holidays will be doing 2 or 3 weeks, not 90 days.

Wemic

Boiler wrote:
    >>Anthony wrote:
    >>>I am not an expert, but have been reading similar post from
    >>>others and
    >>>expert's opinion. Generally speaking, it is very difficult (if
    >>>not
    >>>impossible) for a citizen from Visa Waiver Countries to get a
    >>>B1/B2 visa.
    >>>The people from these countries apply for B1/B2 visa only for
    >>>2 main
    >>>reasons:
    >>>*They are not eligible for Visa Waiver due to criminal convic-
    >>>tion, past
    >>>immigration violations, etc.
    >>>*They intend to stay more than 3 months (maximum under visa
    >>>waiver),
    >>>which raise eyebrows to consular officials to believe genuine
    >>>tourists can
    >>>leave their work/primary residence that long if they indeed
    >>>have
    >>>strong/sufficient ties to the home country as required in B1/-
    >>>B2 visa.
    >>>"Wemic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]...
    >>>>Bob wrote:
    >>>>>>Bob wrote:
    >>>>>>>>helenab wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>Hi all,
    >>>>>>>>>>I'm new to all this, so please bear with me. In short, I am a
    >>>>>>>>>>natural
    >>>>>>>>>>born US citizen. I am recently separated (June) from my wife
    >>>>>>>>>>but divo-
    >>>>>>>>>>rce
    >>>>>>>>>>papers have not been filed to date but they are imminent. Two
    >>>>>>>>>>weeks
    >>>>>>>>>>after my separation, while on a business trip to NYC, I met a
    >>>>>>>>>>Japanese
    >>>>>>>>>>woman who was here on vacation and we have since fallen for
    >>>>>>>>>>ea-
    >>>>>>>>>>ch othe-
    >>>>>>>>>>r.
    >>>>>>>>>> She returned to Japan a few weeks ago. We think we would li-
    >>>>>>>>>> ke to
    >>>>>>>>>> marry
    >>>>>>>>>> eventually. Before that happens, she would like to live with
    >>>>>>>>>> me
    >>>>>>>>>> here
    >>>>>>>>>> in
    >>>>>>>>>> the US to see if she can adjust to life here. We would like
    >>>>>>>>>> this
    >>>>>>>>>> to
    >>>>>>>>>> happen sooner rather than later but my divorce process is
    >>>>>>>>>> likely
    >>>>>>>>>> to be
    >>>>>>>>>> lengthy. Obviously, a fiancee visa is out of the question
    >>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>> now.
    >>>>>>>>>> Do-
    >>>>>>>>>> es
    >>>>>>>>>> anyone have an option they can suggest? My girlfriend is 39
    >>>>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>>>> a
    >>>>>>>>>> rather successful business owner in Japan. She can operate
    >>>>>>>>>> her
    >>>>>>>>>> bu-
    >>>>>>>>>> sine-
    >>>>>>>>>> ss
    >>>>>>>>>> from here.
    >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
    >>>>>>>>>You do realise that if she comes here on a tourist visa, she
    >>>>>>>>>can't
    >>>>>>>>>wo-
    >>>>>>>>>rk or get a social security number or drivers license, which
    >>>>>>>>>will
    >>>>>>>>>obv-
    >>>>>>>>>iously limit the "adjustment" of living in this country? I cou-
    >>>>>>>>>ld
    >>>>>>>>>ne-
    >>>>>>>>>ver
    >>>>>>>>>have gotten a feeling of home in this country without being ab-
    >>>>>>>>>le to
    >>>>>>>>>work(make friends there), be able to drive where I want and to
    >>>>>>>>>have
    >>>>>>>>>a
    >>>>>>>>>SSN so I could get bankaccts, insurances etc. Unless you live
    >>>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>center of a city with subway or a decent bus system, it's kind
    >>>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>imp-
    >>>>>>>>>ossible to get around.
    >>>>>>>>Thanks for the input. Helen, those are definitely valid things
    >>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>consider. I live in a very nice area but public transport is
    >>>>>>>>virtu-
    >>>>>>>>al-
    >>>>>>>>ly
    >>>>>>>>non-existent. She appears to be quite comfortable financially
    >>>>>>>>as a
    >>>>>>>>result of her business but these are definitely concerns.
    >>>>>>>>Boiler, Japan is a waiver country but I misunderstand why it wo-
    >>>>>>>>uld
    >>>>>>>>be
    >>>>>>>>a
    >>>>>>>>problem to go for a B2 unless a consular official would be made
    >>>>>>>>suspicious by her wanting to go through the slower process. Al-
    >>>>>>>>so,
    >>>>>>>>waiver is only for 90 days whereas the B2 is up to one year.
    >>>>>>>>I may be answering my own question here but my girlfriend's bus-
    >>>>>>>>iness
    >>>>>>>>involves the export and distribution of product to the US. I'm
    >>>>>>>>beginning to think a business trip on a B1 visa might be her ti-
    >>>>>>>>cket.
    >>>>>>>B2 would be stamped for a max of 6 month stay when you get to the
    >>>>>>>States
    >>>>>>>though.
    >>>>>>>B1 for that purpose might be the way to go if she will only be
    >>>>>>>over
    >>>>>>>see-
    >>>>>>>ing things, I think.
    >>>>>>If I understand, can't the B2 be renewed up to an additional 6 mo-
    >>>>>>nth-
    >>>>>>s?
    >>>>>>Also as far as the B1 is concerned, I'm wondering how subtantial
    >>>>>>the
    >>>>>>business she would have to conduct be. She has no US staff to my
    >>>>>>kn-
    >>>>>>owledge.
    >>>>>The visa is valid for quite a while, but can only use it to stay
    >>>>>for 6
    >>>>>month max, and in theory you can apply to extend it, but to be hon-
    >>>>>est,
    >>>>>they hardly ever give that the ok, because would need to prove you
    >>>>>don't
    >>>>>have immigration intentions.
    >>>>>I can't help with the B1 though
    >>>>Oh yes, I forgot about the immigration intentions part. Frankly, by
    >>>>the
    >>>>time the 6 months are up, the divorce would likely be final.
    >>Yes, I have gotten that impression as well. A 90 day looks like all
    >>she's going to get. What I can't seem to find out is how much time
    >>she
    >>would have to spend out of country before she can come back.
    >
    >
    > It is always at the discretion of the Officer.
    >
    > This is not a rule but 90 days in and 90 days out.
    >
    > You will find stories of people who have gone in and out without any tr-
    > ouble and those who have failed on their first trip.
    >
    > You need to bear in mind that the VWP is up to 90 days, now in the majo-
    > rity of cases if you are let in you get the 90 day stamp, but they could
    > (should?) just give you the time line you have asked for. Most people
    > coming on Holidays will be doing 2 or 3 weeks, not 90 days.
    >

It seems like there is quite a bit of discretion then. Maybe she'll get
the whole 90 days because she's cute. LOL! Then again, that might be
all the the reason to give her only a week!!! Of course, it might even
be easier just to say she's coming to visit her boyfriend. Arrrghhh....
just my luck to hook up with a foreign citizen! It's very frustrating.

Thorsten

Wemic wrote:
    > helenab wrote:

    >> You do realise that if she comes here on a tourist visa, she can't
>> [...] get a [...] drivers license

    > [T]hose are definitely valid things to
    > consider. I live in a very nice area but public transport is virtually
    > non-existent.

At least this shouldn't be a concern. It would not be appropriate nor
necessary for a tourist to obtain a NYS drivers license. She can legally
drive with a valid foreign license.

Also, as other people have pointed out, visiting as a tourist under the
Visa Waiver Program is her best shot. Keep in mind that "staying with a
boyfriend" is usually _not_ considered an appropriate activity for a
tourist. However, traveling, sightseeing and visiting with "friends" or
even "a friend" usually is. Note that most bona-fide tourists have
detailed travel plans that they can share with a border inspector when
asked, e.g., hang out at Niagara Falls for a week, drive around Lake
Ontario, stop in Toronto (CN Tower!), perhaps go to Thousand Islands
(weather permitting), tour a few Finger Lakes wineries, perhaps take a
glass-blowing course at the Corning Museum of Glass (if there is any
time left), and use friend's home as a base in between trips. Not having
any specific "touristy" plans besides stying with a friend for 90
straight days would be a sure-fire way to invite scrutiny.

While there have been _limited_ reports that some VWP visitors were
admitted for just a few weeks, inspectors are still supposed to give 90
days (in other words, they have no discretion to give less.)

Good luck,
Thorsten

scrubbedexpat099

Or get a 2 week return and think about delaying departure once you are here and re-booking.

Just make sure you go before the 90 days, I would give it a couple of days just in case.

Thre was a report in the UK media of a lady whose flight was delayed, she had a holiday home in Florida, and was bounced by Immigration on her next visit as she had overstayed. It was a matter of hours.

Thorsten

Boiler wrote:

    >>While there have been _limited_ reports that some VWP visitors were
    >>admitted for just a few weeks, inspectors are still supposed to give
    >>90 days

    > Or get a 2 week return and think about delaying departure once you are
    > here and re-booking.

What would that accomplish (other than perhaps increasing the chance
that she might get only 2 weeks)?

Thorsten

scrubbedexpat099

If you come in for 2 weeks holiday, well thats normal.

Come in saying your staying for 90 days, that raises issues.

Thorsten

Boiler wrote:

    >>>Or get a 2 week return and think about delaying departure once you
    >>>are here and re-booking.

    >>What would that accomplish (other than perhaps increasing the chance
    >>that she might get only 2 weeks)?

    > If you come in for 2 weeks holiday, well thats normal.
    > Come in saying your staying for 90 days, that raises issues.

Do you have any evidence that people who wouldn't have been admitted for
90 days were admitted for 2 weeks?

Basing one's intentions on a lie upfront can lead to more problems,
rather than avoiding them, IMHO.

Thorsten

scrubbedexpat099

Go to ww.visajourney.com and/or look on the Marriage Board on BritishExpats.com

A regular discussion where Fiances are concerned on how long you can come in for at what frequency etc etc

People come for a week or two or three all the time, if she decides after that time line she wants to stay a bit longer AND has been given a max 90 day stay, then she can re book, might want to go home of course!

Like I said, the big thing is not to overstay or breach your entry conditions

Now if you sratrt doing the 90 day thing frequently, that is another thing.

Wemic

Boiler wrote:
    >>Wemic wrote:
    >>>helenab wrote:
    >>>>You do realise that if she comes here on a tourist visa, she can't
    >> >> [...] get a [...] drivers license
    >>>[T]hose are definitely valid things to
    >>> consider. I live in a very nice area but public transport is vi-
    >>> rtually
    >>> non-existent.
    >>At least this shouldn't be a concern. It would not be appropriate nor
    >>necessary for a tourist to obtain a NYS drivers license. She can lega-
    >>lly
    >>drive with a valid foreign license.
    >>Also, as other people have pointed out, visiting as a tourist under
    >>the
    >>Visa Waiver Program is her best shot. Keep in mind that "staying with
    >>a
    >>boyfriend" is usually _not_ considered an appropriate activity for a
    >>tourist. However, traveling, sightseeing and visiting with "friends"
    >>or
    >>even "a friend" usually is. Note that most bona-fide tourists have
    >>detailed travel plans that they can share with a border inspector when
    >>asked, e.g., hang out at Niagara Falls for a week, drive around Lake
    >>Ontario, stop in Toronto (CN Tower!), perhaps go to Thousand Islands
    >>(weather permitting), tour a few Finger Lakes wineries, perhaps take a
    >>glass-blowing course at the Corning Museum of Glass (if there is any
    >>time left), and use friend's home as a base in between trips. Not hav-
    >>ing
    >>any specific "touristy" plans besides stying with a friend for 90
    >>straight days would be a sure-fire way to invite scrutiny.
    >>While there have been _limited_ reports that some VWP visitors were
    >>admitted for just a few weeks, inspectors are still supposed to give
    >>90
    >>days (in other words, they have no discretion to give less.)
    >>Good luck,
    >>Thorsten
    >
    >
    > Or get a 2 week return and think about delaying departure once you are
    > here and re-booking.
    >
    > Just make sure you go before the 90 days, I would give it a couple of
    > days just in case.
    >
    > Thre was a report in the UK media of a lady whose flight was delayed,
    > she had a holiday home in Florida, and was bounced by Immigration on her
    > next visit as she had overstayed. It was a matter of hours.
    >

Ouch! Man that is harsh. Well, we have long way to go anyway. As
Thorsten said, we definitely should have "travel" plans put in place.
International dating should not be this hard.

scrubbedexpat099

Agree, but think of it as a game, really helps if you also know the rules.

There will be odd exceptions, but I am convinced that most Gov officials are just doing their job according to the rules they are given. You can go head on or you can work with them. Going head on will just give you a headache.

Wemic

Boiler wrote:
    >>Boiler wrote:
    >>>>Wemic wrote:
    >>>>>helenab wrote:
    >>>>>>You do realise that if she comes here on a tourist visa, she can't
    >>>>>>[...] get a [...] drivers license
    >>>>>[T]hose are definitely valid things to
    >>>>> consider. I live in a very nice area but public transport is
    >>>>> vi-
    >>>>> rtually
    >>>>> non-existent.
    >>>>At least this shouldn't be a concern. It would not be appropriate
    >>>>nor
    >>>>necessary for a tourist to obtain a NYS drivers license. She can lega-
    >>>>lly
    >>>>drive with a valid foreign license.
    >>>>Also, as other people have pointed out, visiting as a tourist under
    >>>>the
    >>>>Visa Waiver Program is her best shot. Keep in mind that "staying
    >>>>with
    >>>>a
    >>>>boyfriend" is usually _not_ considered an appropriate activity for a
    >>>>tourist. However, traveling, sightseeing and visiting with "friends"
    >>>>or
    >>>>even "a friend" usually is. Note that most bona-fide tourists have
    >>>>detailed travel plans that they can share with a border inspector
    >>>>when
    >>>>asked, e.g., hang out at Niagara Falls for a week, drive around Lake
    >>>>Ontario, stop in Toronto (CN Tower!), perhaps go to Thousand Islands
    >>>>(weather permitting), tour a few Finger Lakes wineries, perhaps take
    >>>>a
    >>>>glass-blowing course at the Corning Museum of Glass (if there is any
    >>>>time left), and use friend's home as a base in between trips. Not
    >>>>hav-
    >>>>ing
    >>>>any specific "touristy" plans besides stying with a friend for 90
    >>>>straight days would be a sure-fire way to invite scrutiny.
    >>>>While there have been _limited_ reports that some VWP visitors were
    >>>>admitted for just a few weeks, inspectors are still supposed to give
    >>>>90
    >>>>days (in other words, they have no discretion to give less.)
    >>>>Good luck,
    >>>>Thorsten
    >>>Or get a 2 week return and think about delaying departure once you
    >>>are
    >>>here and re-booking.
    >>>Just make sure you go before the 90 days, I would give it a couple
    >>>of
    >>>days just in case.
    >>>Thre was a report in the UK media of a lady whose flight was
    >>>delayed,
    >>>she had a holiday home in Florida, and was bounced by Immigration on
    >>>her
    >>>next visit as she had overstayed. It was a matter of hours.
    >>Ouch! Man that is harsh. Well, we have long way to go anyway. As
    >>Thorsten said, we definitely should have "travel" plans put in place.
    >>International dating should not be this hard.
    >
    >
    > Agree, but think of it as a game, really helps if you also know
    > the rules.
    >
    > There will be odd exceptions, but I am convinced that most Gov
    > officials are just doing their job according to the rules they are
    > given. You can go head on or you can work with them. Going head on will
    > just give you a headache.
    >

Working with them probably is the best medicine. I'm at loggerheads
with people enough in my professional life...I don't need it in this area.

Thorsten

Boiler wrote:
    >>Boiler wrote:

    >>>If you come in for 2 weeks holiday, well thats normal.
    >>>Come in saying your staying for 90 days, that raises issues.

    >>Do you have any evidence that people who wouldn't have been admitted
    >>for 90 days were admitted for 2 weeks?

    > Now if you sratrt doing the 90 day thing frequently, that is anot-
    > her thing.

OK, I had overlooked the fact that the OP's girlfriend had just been in
the U.S. for 90 days and intended to return for another 90 days after
only a short absence. I do agree that this has a very high likelihood of
raising eyebrows.

Thorsten