How Attorney's feel
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Re: How Attorney's feel
Originally posted by Richard III
Heba -
Good try, but I was responding to Andrews FIRST post in this thread - - you know, the one with all the MIME coding in it -
Richard III
Heba -
Good try, but I was responding to Andrews FIRST post in this thread - - you know, the one with all the MIME coding in it -
Richard III
Richard,
For some reason, I never saw that first post. I understand your response now.
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Richard III wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">All
lawyers are not created equal </blockquote>
Yes, 50% of them are from the bottom half of their class! I know that.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">-
try to find a GOOD one, then come back and tell us about it. </blockquote>
I'm just trying to tell you of my experiences. Obviously I did not
purposely go out to find a bad lawyer however of the ones I did manage
to locate I have not been impressed.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">I
can go on day after day whining about "professionals" who have done me
wrong, but I won't. </blockquote>
That's your prerogative.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">I
won't paint all lawyers, for example, with the same brush. </blockquote>
I am not painting <b>all</b> lawyers. I had explicitedly stated the
ones I've come across.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">It
is up to you, as a consumer of legal services, to find an attorney who
is QUALIFIED, and<br>
WILLING, to provide you with the advice and service you require.</blockquote>
Easier said than done.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">
Caveat emptor. Don't try to make us think that all attorneys are
rascals, I know too many good ones to buy it.<br>
</blockquote>
Sorry that you misinterpreted my words but that's your responsibility
not mine.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">PS
- and another thing, lose the MIME coding, it's annoying. It is a
configuration setting in your software - learn to use it.<br>
</blockquote>
I know how to use it. I <b>choose</b> to post this way. Sorry you
don't like it but again that's something that you'll have to learn to
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Richard III wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">All
lawyers are not created equal </blockquote>
Yes, 50% of them are from the bottom half of their class! I know that.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">-
try to find a GOOD one, then come back and tell us about it. </blockquote>
I'm just trying to tell you of my experiences. Obviously I did not
purposely go out to find a bad lawyer however of the ones I did manage
to locate I have not been impressed.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">I
can go on day after day whining about "professionals" who have done me
wrong, but I won't. </blockquote>
That's your prerogative.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">I
won't paint all lawyers, for example, with the same brush. </blockquote>
I am not painting <b>all</b> lawyers. I had explicitedly stated the
ones I've come across.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">It
is up to you, as a consumer of legal services, to find an attorney who
is QUALIFIED, and<br>
WILLING, to provide you with the advice and service you require.</blockquote>
Easier said than done.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">
Caveat emptor. Don't try to make us think that all attorneys are
rascals, I know too many good ones to buy it.<br>
</blockquote>
Sorry that you misinterpreted my words but that's your responsibility
not mine.<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="[email protected]">PS
- and another thing, lose the MIME coding, it's annoying. It is a
configuration setting in your software - learn to use it.<br>
</blockquote>
I know how to use it. I <b>choose</b> to post this way. Sorry you
don't like it but again that's something that you'll have to learn to
deal with (perhaps you can get better software...)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
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Re: How Attorney's feel
Folinskyinla,
I've been following all 3 "GC with Childsupport Enforcement" threads.
I didn't find any of the attorneys to be overly preachy or strident. Maybe it's because I happen to agree with you, so naturally your comments wouldn't sound harsh to me. I have actually found you (all) to be overly tolerant 99% of the time. You put up with a bunch of newbie, do-it-yourselfers, who want to argue the law with you, and then disregard your advice. As far as the child support issue, that is not just a legal issue. It is a moral issue. Folks with any moral compass know there is no logical argument against a non-custodial parent's responsibility to their children. We may all have different levels of passion about it, but right is right.
It's too bad you even felt that you had to start this thread Folinsky. Anybody who doesn't "get" what you guys are about, isn't paying attention.
Leslie
I've been following all 3 "GC with Childsupport Enforcement" threads.
I didn't find any of the attorneys to be overly preachy or strident. Maybe it's because I happen to agree with you, so naturally your comments wouldn't sound harsh to me. I have actually found you (all) to be overly tolerant 99% of the time. You put up with a bunch of newbie, do-it-yourselfers, who want to argue the law with you, and then disregard your advice. As far as the child support issue, that is not just a legal issue. It is a moral issue. Folks with any moral compass know there is no logical argument against a non-custodial parent's responsibility to their children. We may all have different levels of passion about it, but right is right.
It's too bad you even felt that you had to start this thread Folinsky. Anybody who doesn't "get" what you guys are about, isn't paying attention.
Leslie
Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:
I don't know how many of you have been following the string on "GC with Childsupport Enforcement" -- but it got me thinking that a lot of you may like to know how the lawyers here might view things.
There are three California lawyers who regularly participate here, two of whom are wonderful. You've got Matt Udall, rock musician, home brew guy and marriage visa lawyer extraordinaire. Then there is Dekka's Angel from the San Francisco Bay area who is NOT an immigration lawyer but has gone through the process of bringing over her beloved Dekkie. [Angel: I've learned to love and respect you and I will tell Dekkie that he is a very lucky man who will never have a dull moment ever again in his life].
Oh, yes, and then there is yours truly.
All three of us tend to show strong feelings and opinions on this NG -- and beleive me -- you don't see half of it -- our professional training includes the ability to say "Thank you, your Honor" when your mind is screaming epithets at full volume].
Do you ever wonder why lawyer types get these strong feelings? In my opinion, and the observations of the posting on the NG -- it comes from the experience of practicing our professions.
Quite often, we are invovled when the brown material hits the fan -- and the lawyers get hired to use their professional shovels to help clean up the mess. And we tend to see the messes all the time.
We may make a living at this, but we try to help people -- there is a satisfaction in doing this that can't be quantified. And it bothers us when we see people get into problems that could have been easily avoided.
So, although we may get strident at times - there is a reason for that.
Hi:
I don't know how many of you have been following the string on "GC with Childsupport Enforcement" -- but it got me thinking that a lot of you may like to know how the lawyers here might view things.
There are three California lawyers who regularly participate here, two of whom are wonderful. You've got Matt Udall, rock musician, home brew guy and marriage visa lawyer extraordinaire. Then there is Dekka's Angel from the San Francisco Bay area who is NOT an immigration lawyer but has gone through the process of bringing over her beloved Dekkie. [Angel: I've learned to love and respect you and I will tell Dekkie that he is a very lucky man who will never have a dull moment ever again in his life].
Oh, yes, and then there is yours truly.
All three of us tend to show strong feelings and opinions on this NG -- and beleive me -- you don't see half of it -- our professional training includes the ability to say "Thank you, your Honor" when your mind is screaming epithets at full volume].
Do you ever wonder why lawyer types get these strong feelings? In my opinion, and the observations of the posting on the NG -- it comes from the experience of practicing our professions.
Quite often, we are invovled when the brown material hits the fan -- and the lawyers get hired to use their professional shovels to help clean up the mess. And we tend to see the messes all the time.
We may make a living at this, but we try to help people -- there is a satisfaction in doing this that can't be quantified. And it bothers us when we see people get into problems that could have been easily avoided.
So, although we may get strident at times - there is a reason for that.
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Re: How Attorney's feel
Heba -
How could you miss it, it was HUGE??!!! ;^)
Richard III
How could you miss it, it was HUGE??!!! ;^)
Richard III
Originally posted by Hebapotamus42
Richard,
For some reason, I never saw that first post. I understand your response now.
Richard,
For some reason, I never saw that first post. I understand your response now.
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Re: How Attorney's feel
I'm sure it was some sort of self preservation reflex. Like not looking directly into the Sun ...........
Originally posted by Richard III
Heba -
How could you miss it, it was HUGE??!!! ;^)
Richard III
Heba -
How could you miss it, it was HUGE??!!! ;^)
Richard III
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Originally posted by Richard III
Heba -
How could you miss it, it was HUGE??!!! ;^)
Richard III
Heba -
How could you miss it, it was HUGE??!!! ;^)
Richard III
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Heba,
Have you been drinking? -----------><-----------Heba?
Leslie
Have you been drinking? -----------><-----------Heba?
Leslie
Originally posted by Hebapotamus42
I don't know. My computer has been acting weird lately. Like this morning I posted a reply to some thread but it didn't appear until an hour later. Perhaps my computer wasn't showing his reply and then when I signed on later I naturally pressed the arrow button next to the post and so went only to the new posts. Did I make any sense?
I don't know. My computer has been acting weird lately. Like this morning I posted a reply to some thread but it didn't appear until an hour later. Perhaps my computer wasn't showing his reply and then when I signed on later I naturally pressed the arrow button next to the post and so went only to the new posts. Did I make any sense?
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Re: How Attorney's feel
Originally posted by Leslie66
Heba,
Have you been drinking? -----------><-----------Heba?
Leslie
Heba,
Have you been drinking? -----------><-----------Heba?
Leslie
No, I don't drink. But perhaps my computer has.
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Re: How Attorney's feel
Heba -
Yes, you made sense...now as to Leslie...I am beginning to wonder if she has been smoking her own dirty socks ;^) - it could happen...it COULD!
Richard III
Yes, you made sense...now as to Leslie...I am beginning to wonder if she has been smoking her own dirty socks ;^) - it could happen...it COULD!
Richard III
Originally posted by Hebapotamus42
I don't know. My computer has been acting weird lately. Like this morning I posted a reply to some thread but it didn't appear until an hour later. Perhaps my computer wasn't showing his reply and then when I signed on later I naturally pressed the arrow button next to the post and so went only to the new posts. Did I make any sense?
I don't know. My computer has been acting weird lately. Like this morning I posted a reply to some thread but it didn't appear until an hour later. Perhaps my computer wasn't showing his reply and then when I signed on later I naturally pressed the arrow button next to the post and so went only to the new posts. Did I make any sense?
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Re: How Attorney's feel
Hey!! I heard that.
I'm not the one with disappearing and reappearing, invisible, imaginary, magical posts.
I'm not the one with disappearing and reappearing, invisible, imaginary, magical posts.
Originally posted by Richard III
Heba -
Yes, you made sense...now as to Leslie...I am beginning to wonder if she has been smoking her own dirty socks ;^) - it could happen...it COULD!
Richard III
Heba -
Yes, you made sense...now as to Leslie...I am beginning to wonder if she has been smoking her own dirty socks ;^) - it could happen...it COULD!
Richard III
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Re: How Attorney's feel
Andrew -
The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came from Britishexpats, meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a browser to view the posts. Your posts are nearly undecipherable when viewed the way most folks do so. Your choosing to make your posts look so goofy that people are more likely to just bypass them than read them because it is so painful to read them seems to me to be an odd choice. To each their own.
Actually, one of the great things about being me is that there just aren't a whole lot of things that I HAVE to do. But I can ignore your drivel, THAT is what I choose to do. Good day -
Richard III
The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came from Britishexpats, meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a browser to view the posts. Your posts are nearly undecipherable when viewed the way most folks do so. Your choosing to make your posts look so goofy that people are more likely to just bypass them than read them because it is so painful to read them seems to me to be an odd choice. To each their own.
Actually, one of the great things about being me is that there just aren't a whole lot of things that I HAVE to do. But I can ignore your drivel, THAT is what I choose to do. Good day -
Richard III
Originally posted by Andrew Defaria
I know how to use it. I <b>choose</b> to post this way. Sorry you
don't like it but again that's something that you'll have to learn to
deal with (perhaps you can get better software...)
I know how to use it. I <b>choose</b> to post this way. Sorry you
don't like it but again that's something that you'll have to learn to
deal with (perhaps you can get better software...)
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(Argh, here we go again...)
Richard III wrote:
> The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came
> from Britishexpats,
Well I heard it was closer to 25%.
> meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a browser to
> view the posts.
I pity them...
> Your posts are nearly undecipherable when viewed the way most folks do
> so.
Funny, lots of people make comments on my comments so I wouldn't say
they are undecipherable...
> Your choosing to make your posts look so goofy that people are more
> likely to just bypass them than read them because it is so painful to
> read them seems to me to be an odd choice.
I see lots of goofy posts by others.
> To each their own.
Really? Will you really let me have my own? I guess this remains to be seen.
> Actually, one of the great things about being me is that there just
> aren't a whole lot of things that I HAVE to do. But I can ignore your
> drivel, THAT is what I choose to do. Good day -
Cool... Later dude!
--
They show you how detergents take out bloodstains. I think if you've got
a T-shirt with bloodstains all over it, maybe your laundry isn't your
biggest problem.
Richard III wrote:
> The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came
> from Britishexpats,
Well I heard it was closer to 25%.
> meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a browser to
> view the posts.
I pity them...
> Your posts are nearly undecipherable when viewed the way most folks do
> so.
Funny, lots of people make comments on my comments so I wouldn't say
they are undecipherable...
> Your choosing to make your posts look so goofy that people are more
> likely to just bypass them than read them because it is so painful to
> read them seems to me to be an odd choice.
I see lots of goofy posts by others.
> To each their own.
Really? Will you really let me have my own? I guess this remains to be seen.
> Actually, one of the great things about being me is that there just
> aren't a whole lot of things that I HAVE to do. But I can ignore your
> drivel, THAT is what I choose to do. Good day -
Cool... Later dude!
--
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a T-shirt with bloodstains all over it, maybe your laundry isn't your
biggest problem.
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In article <[email protected]>, Richard III
<member8298@british_expats.com> writes
>The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came from
>Britishexpats, meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a
>browser to view the posts. Your posts are nearly undecipherable when
>viewed the way most folks do so. Your choosing to make your posts look
>so goofy that people are more likely to just bypass them than read them
>because it is so painful to read them seems to me to be an odd choice.
>To each their own.
You are quite correct and there has been quite a change from nearly 18
months ago.
Jul02 Nov03
British Expats Forum 22.5% 77.0%
Google 12.0% 6.0%
Web-based postings 34.5% 83.0%
Outlook Express 29.2% 10.0%
Mozilla (Netscape) 17.5% 3.0%
AOL 4.3% 1.0%
Compuserve 3.1% 0.0%
Other 11.4% 3.0%
Usenet postings 65.5% 17.0%
Top Posters 11.0%
These are analyses of posters, not postings.
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<member8298@british_expats.com> writes
>The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came from
>Britishexpats, meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a
>browser to view the posts. Your posts are nearly undecipherable when
>viewed the way most folks do so. Your choosing to make your posts look
>so goofy that people are more likely to just bypass them than read them
>because it is so painful to read them seems to me to be an odd choice.
>To each their own.
You are quite correct and there has been quite a change from nearly 18
months ago.
Jul02 Nov03
British Expats Forum 22.5% 77.0%
Google 12.0% 6.0%
Web-based postings 34.5% 83.0%
Outlook Express 29.2% 10.0%
Mozilla (Netscape) 17.5% 3.0%
AOL 4.3% 1.0%
Compuserve 3.1% 0.0%
Other 11.4% 3.0%
Usenet postings 65.5% 17.0%
Top Posters 11.0%
These are analyses of posters, not postings.
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squire wrote:<br>
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cite="[email protected] k">
<pre wrap="">In article <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]> </a>, Richard III
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:member8298@british_expats.com"><member8298@british_expats.com></a> writes
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came from
Britishexpats, meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a
browser to view the posts. Your posts are nearly undecipherable when
viewed the way most folks do so. Your choosing to make your posts look
so goofy that people are more likely to just bypass them than read them
because it is so painful to read them seems to me to be an odd choice.
To each their own.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
You are quite correct and there has been quite a change from nearly 18
months ago.
Jul02 Nov03
British Expats Forum 22.5% 77.0%
Google 12.0% 6.0%
Web-based postings 34.5% 83.0%
Outlook Express 29.2% 10.0%
Mozilla (Netscape) 17.5% 3.0%
AOL 4.3% 1.0%
Compuserve 3.1% 0.0%
Other 11.4% 3.0%
Usenet postings 65.5% 17.0%
Top Posters 11.0%
These are analyses of posters, not postings.
</pre>
</blockquote>
Interesting. Where do you get your stats?<br>
<br>
(I know if I were a foreigner or involved with a foreigner I would not
naturally think "Hmmm... perhaps I should search the web for
"britishexpats"? Wonder how they get their traffic).<br>
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squire wrote:<br>
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cite="[email protected] k">
<pre wrap="">In article <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]> </a>, Richard III
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:member8298@british_expats.com"><member8298@british_expats.com></a> writes
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">The last time I checked, about 77% of the posts to this forum came from
Britishexpats, meaning that 77% of the viewers of this forum are using a
browser to view the posts. Your posts are nearly undecipherable when
viewed the way most folks do so. Your choosing to make your posts look
so goofy that people are more likely to just bypass them than read them
because it is so painful to read them seems to me to be an odd choice.
To each their own.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
You are quite correct and there has been quite a change from nearly 18
months ago.
Jul02 Nov03
British Expats Forum 22.5% 77.0%
Google 12.0% 6.0%
Web-based postings 34.5% 83.0%
Outlook Express 29.2% 10.0%
Mozilla (Netscape) 17.5% 3.0%
AOL 4.3% 1.0%
Compuserve 3.1% 0.0%
Other 11.4% 3.0%
Usenet postings 65.5% 17.0%
Top Posters 11.0%
These are analyses of posters, not postings.
</pre>
</blockquote>
Interesting. Where do you get your stats?<br>
<br>
(I know if I were a foreigner or involved with a foreigner I would not
naturally think "Hmmm... perhaps I should search the web for
"britishexpats"? Wonder how they get their traffic).<br>
-- <br>
When something is "new and improved!". Which is it? If it's new, then
there has never been anything before it. If it's an improvement, then
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Bravo------you guys work hard, (and besides, you have to put up with all
those dumb lawyer jokes!)
How Attorney's feel
Group: alt.visa.us.marriage-based Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 4:09am
(EST+5) From: member@british_expats.com (Folinskyinla)
Hi:
I don't know how many of you have been following the string on "GC with
Childsupport Enforcement" -- but it got me thinking that a lot of you
may like to know how the lawyers here might view things.
There are three California lawyers who regularly participate here, two
of whom are wonderful. You've got Matt Udall, rock musician, home brew
guy and marriage visa lawyer extraordinaire. Then there is Dekka's Angel
from the San Francisco Bay area who is NOT an immigration lawyer but has
gone through the process of bringing over her beloved Dekkie. [Angel:
I've learned to love and respect you and I will tell Dekkie that he is a
very lucky man who will never have a dull moment ever again in his
life].
Oh, yes, and then there is yours truly.
All three of us tend to show strong feelings and opinions on this NG --
and beleive me -- you don't see half of it -- our professional training
includes the ability to say "Thank you, your Honor" when your mind is
screaming epithets at full volume].
Do you ever wonder why lawyer types get these strong feelings? In my
opinion, and the observations of the posting on the NG -- it comes from
the experience of practicing our professions.
Quite often, we are invovled when the brown material hits the fan -- and
the lawyers get hired to use their professional shovels to help clean up
the mess. And we tend to see the messes all the time.
We may make a living at this, but we try to help people -- there is a
satisfaction in doing this that can't be quantified. And it bothers us
when we see people get into problems that could have been easily
avoided.
So, although we may get strident at times - there is a reason for that.
--
Certified Specialist
 Immigration & Nat. Law
 Cal. Bar Board of Legal Specialization
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those dumb lawyer jokes!)
How Attorney's feel
Group: alt.visa.us.marriage-based Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 4:09am
(EST+5) From: member@british_expats.com (Folinskyinla)
Hi:
I don't know how many of you have been following the string on "GC with
Childsupport Enforcement" -- but it got me thinking that a lot of you
may like to know how the lawyers here might view things.
There are three California lawyers who regularly participate here, two
of whom are wonderful. You've got Matt Udall, rock musician, home brew
guy and marriage visa lawyer extraordinaire. Then there is Dekka's Angel
from the San Francisco Bay area who is NOT an immigration lawyer but has
gone through the process of bringing over her beloved Dekkie. [Angel:
I've learned to love and respect you and I will tell Dekkie that he is a
very lucky man who will never have a dull moment ever again in his
life].
Oh, yes, and then there is yours truly.
All three of us tend to show strong feelings and opinions on this NG --
and beleive me -- you don't see half of it -- our professional training
includes the ability to say "Thank you, your Honor" when your mind is
screaming epithets at full volume].
Do you ever wonder why lawyer types get these strong feelings? In my
opinion, and the observations of the posting on the NG -- it comes from
the experience of practicing our professions.
Quite often, we are invovled when the brown material hits the fan -- and
the lawyers get hired to use their professional shovels to help clean up
the mess. And we tend to see the messes all the time.
We may make a living at this, but we try to help people -- there is a
satisfaction in doing this that can't be quantified. And it bothers us
when we see people get into problems that could have been easily
avoided.
So, although we may get strident at times - there is a reason for that.
--
Certified Specialist
 Immigration & Nat. Law
 Cal. Bar Board of Legal Specialization
Posted via http://britishexpats.com