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inquisitive40 Jul 19th 2004 7:46 am

Re: Drivers license ?
 

Originally posted by sunflwrgrl13
Eh? That does sound weird. It's probably the exact opposite here. If you don't have a US license, you're probably charged a different rate, though I've no experience with this first hand.
I would preseume it agan comes back to insurance laws in Ireland and that it may actually cost more for the rental company to insure an Irish resident OR they may actaully have some loophole that they can get overseas insurance for visitors which cannot be gotten for Irish residents. Car insurance in Ireland can be very expensive depending on your driving record.
Patrick

Noorah101 Jul 19th 2004 7:48 am

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Since we're discussing driver licenses, my hubby and I had a question come up last night. He's working over in California right now. He has an Arizona State ID, but not a driver license. He was telling me, they offer the drivers test in Farsi (his native language) over there in California (since so many Iranians live there). He was wondering how much of a hassle it would be to take the driver test there, pass it, get a California license, and then on his next trip to Arizona, trade it in for an Arizona license. I looked up AZ Motor Vehicle website today, and it says if you transfer your license from out-of-state to Arizona, you don't need to re-take the test.

I was thinking he would need to show some kind of proof that he lives in California, which he doesn't have. He shares an apt. with someone, but his name isn't on it at all. All his other information...i.e., state ID, checks, etc....have his permanent Arizona address on them. I personally told him I don't think he can do this, but just thought I'd pose it for your thoughts.....

Thanks,
Rene

Noorah101 Jul 19th 2004 7:51 am

Re: Drivers license ?
 

Originally posted by Help
We are discussing about obtaining a drivers licence within the state .. not insurance premiums.
Hi Help,

Often times one topic leads to another related topic which also gets covered in the same thread. As you can see, a discussion on driver licenses leads to issues of in-state, out-of-state, out-of-country, and insurance discussions....all related to the same overall topic of driving. :)

Rene

inquisitive40 Jul 19th 2004 7:59 am

Re: Drivers license ?
 

Originally posted by Noorah101
Since we're discussing driver licenses, my hubby and I had a question come up last night. He's working over in California right now. He has an Arizona State ID, but not a driver license. He was telling me, they offer the drivers test in Farsi (his native language) over there in California (since so many Iranians live there). He was wondering how much of a hassle it would be to take the driver test there, pass it, get a California license, and then on his next trip to Arizona, trade it in for an Arizona license. I looked up AZ Motor Vehicle website today, and it says if you transfer your license from out-of-state to Arizona, you don't need to re-take the test.

I was thinking he would need to show some kind of proof that he lives in California, which he doesn't have. He shares an apt. with someone, but his name isn't on it at all. All his other information...i.e., state ID, checks, etc....have his permanent Arizona address on them. I personally told him I don't think he can do this, but just thought I'd pose it for your thoughts.....

Thanks,
Rene
Just emailed my SO to check with her, but my recollection was that residency wasn't a huge issue, if you are in California for more than 10 days you are supposed to get a CA license. I think something that may have made a difference was that she was also reregistering her car here. I do know that they mail out the license to the address you give, takes up to a month to get it in the mail.
Below is from their DMV website.

"If you take a job here or become a resident, you must get a California driver license within 10 days. Residency is established by voting in a California election, paying resident tuition, filing for a homeowner's property tax exemption, or any other privilege or benefit not ordinarily extended to nonresidents. "

Patrick

Richard Cochran Jul 19th 2004 8:14 am

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Darkie <member18744@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I don't see the point in handing in my license, because whenever I go
    > back to Europe, I need that license to drive.

No you don't, not if you have a valid US license. How do you think
US tourists can drive in Europe? Once you have a US license, for
$10.00, you can go to the nearest AAA office and get an "International
Driver's Permit", that will allow you to use your US license almost
anywhere in the world. See www.aaa.com

Also, your European license is valid in the US (that's how European
tourists can drive in the US). It's just that, once you become a
US resident, your state will only allow you to use a foreign license
for a limited period of time, because they want to be in charge of
licensing their own residents. If you kept both licenses, neither
license would contain your complete history of violations, and
when stopped by a police officer, you could present whichever license
your insurance company didn't know about. That's why they won't let
you keep two or more valid licenses.

--Rich

Noorah101 Jul 19th 2004 8:16 am

Re: Drivers license ?
 

Originally posted by inquisitive40
Just emailed my SO to check with her, but my recollection was that residency wasn't a huge issue, if you are in California for more than 10 days you are supposed to get a CA license. I think something that may have made a difference was that she was also reregistering her car here. I do know that they mail out the license to the address you give, takes up to a month to get it in the mail.
Below is from their DMV website.

"If you take a job here or become a resident, you must get a California driver license within 10 days. Residency is established by voting in a California election, paying resident tuition, filing for a homeowner's property tax exemption, or any other privilege or benefit not ordinarily extended to nonresidents. "

Patrick
Wow, this just keeps getting more confusing to me :( He's going to be paying taxes in Arizona. He doesn't have any of those other qualifications that would make him a resident of California. When we get ready to buy a car, it will most likely be registered here in Arizona, and again will most likely be purchased in my name, unless he has that much cash saved up - he has no credit history here.

I think he should just wait till later in the year when he can pass the Arizona test and then it's not an issue at all. Too confusing any other way! :confused:

Rene

Darkie Jul 19th 2004 8:48 am

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In any case, my drivers license from Europe has PERMANENT on it. It is valid for life.

If I lose this license, I cannot get a new one, it is impossible to replace one if you do not have residency in the country I came from.

I'm sure you can see my problem here.

WretchedMidget Jul 19th 2004 9:45 am

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Because Canadians can freely use their licenses in the US, and vice versa, you can't hold both (or so I've heard).

In that respect, it's the same as having a license from, for example, NY and Indiana.

As far as I know, you can't use a European license to drive in the US, so keeping it wouldn't matter to the DMV at all. Granted, some might choose to make you surrender it anyway and use the international one when returning to Europe.

scrubbedexpat099 Jul 19th 2004 10:09 am

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[i]
As far as I know, you can't use a European license to drive in the US, so keeping it wouldn't matter to the DMV at all. Granted, some might choose to make you surrender it anyway and use the international one when returning to Europe.
Yes you can, millions do it every year.

Most probably do not realise that each State defines what is and what is not acceptable as far as the extent of leeway.

Not aware of any that forbid it, I would have thought that would have got a mention.

Colorado does not require you to hand back your non US License, but you do have to do the test.

I applied for my Learners Permit today and was to my surprise given the written 'test' to do. 20 multiple questions, to my chagrin I got one wrong but then I had not prepared.

I did not have my AoS recepipt with me so I have to go back. There is a practical test to do which I can do at the same time, get my photo done and that is it.

inquisitive40 Jul 19th 2004 10:15 am

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boiler
Yes you can, millions do it every year.

Yes as my previous post stated, my SO's insurance covered me as long as I was on holiday. My Irish license was valid to drive in the US just as long as I was not a resident.
Got to do a full driving test in a few months when I get my EAD (CA requires SSN now :( ) . Kinda nervouse about it, 23 years since I did the Irish driving test but most friends here reckon I will not have a problem. The Irish test at the time was only allowed with a gear shift car and a lot of the test relied on proper gear changes, hill starts etc. Seems the test here is not as rigorous.
Patrick

Bluegrass Lass Jul 19th 2004 10:21 am

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Originally posted by Boiler
Yes you can, millions do it every year.
If you are a visitor here, you can drive on your foreign license up to 1 year in a lot of states (from what I've read). However, if you become Resident during that time, here in KY at least, they require you to get a KY license. Not totally helpful, but an interesting point.

inquisitive40 Jul 19th 2004 10:27 am

Re: Drivers license ?
 

Originally posted by sunflwrgrl13
If you are a visitor here, you can drive on your foreign license up to 1 year in a lot of states (from what I've read). However, if you become Resident during that time, here in KY at least, they require you to get a KY license. Not totally helpful, but an interesting point.
I think it would be dependent on your visa, if you are not in status you would not be legally allowed to drive I would think?
Patrick

Hypertweeky Jul 19th 2004 11:10 am

Re: Drivers license ?
 

Originally posted by sunflwrgrl13
If you are a visitor here, you can drive on your foreign license up to 1 year in a lot of states (from what I've read). However, if you become Resident during that time, here in KY at least, they require you to get a KY license. Not totally helpful, but an interesting point.

Same thing in Colorado:)

Hypertweeky Jul 19th 2004 11:16 am

Re: Drivers license ?
 

Originally posted by inquisitive40
I think it would be dependent on your visa, if you are not in status you would not be legally allowed to drive I would think?
Patrick

Not In Colorado. In 2000 I came to the US holding a J1 visa, I got my driving license and it is good until 2012!
:):) But like I said many times before.. every state has its own laws:p

inquisitive40 Jul 19th 2004 11:25 am

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Originally posted by Hypertweeky
Not In Colorado. In 2000 I came to the US holding a J1 visa, I got my driving license and it is good until 2012!
:):) But like I said many times before.. every state has its own laws:p
Yes but your visa was valid when you got the license, you were in status?
Although I know some states actually date the license according to your visa dates and so once you go out of status you also lose your license.
In California, Davis was going to give all the illegal immigrants a chance of a driving license by doing away with the SSN requirement, the Californians all thought that there would be a ton of Mexicans allowed to drive that were not driving under the SSN policy, Arnold reversed the Davis law and so SSN is still required. My question at the time was "do the people living here think that those same Mexicans are not driving illegally as it is?" All the Davis change would've meant is that those drivers would have a license and might get insurance.
Patrick


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