Considering Marriage on VWP
Jan 14th 2009, 1:08 am
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
But I think we'll get over it.
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Jan 14th 2009, 1:23 am
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
You'll be fine, Ian. I'll hold your hand.
(and cop a feel at the same time.. you like being used!)
(and cop a feel at the same time.. you like being used!)
Jan 14th 2009, 12:45 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
Sorry, I just have to ask this, because it's been nagging me since I read this on page 2 (and because no one else has asked):
Why did you lie to us, making up that whole story about how your fiance has a job and has 10,000 GBP in the bank, when neither is true? I really can't understand why you would even mention that if it wasn't true and wasn't relevant to your situation.
Why did you lie to us, making up that whole story about how your fiance has a job and has 10,000 GBP in the bank, when neither is true? I really can't understand why you would even mention that if it wasn't true and wasn't relevant to your situation.
It was mentioned because she was bright enough to add 2 and 2 and come up with a scenario that we are not allowed to talk about on here because it is considered aiding and abetting. Which is fine. I have no problem with that.
And what else have you lied about? It's very difficult to help you if you're not being honest with the facts. It's one thing to keep some facts to yourself, but quite another to pull them out of thin air.
It calls to mind the Vegas wedding of an American Citizen and a German citizen. Vegas wedding could be spur of the moment but in this case the German citizen's family came to be at the wedding. He was deported.
On a related note, I'm curious as to whether you meet the minimum income requirement for your household size needed for sponsoring his visa?
~ Jenney
~ Jenney
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Jan 14th 2009, 3:14 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
Sorry, I just have to ask this, because it's been nagging me since I read this on page 2 (and because no one else has asked):
Why did you lie to us, making up that whole story about how your fiance has a job and has 10,000 GBP in the bank, when neither is true? I really can't understand why you would even mention that if it wasn't true and wasn't relevant to your situation.
And what else have you lied about? It's very difficult to help you if you're not being honest with the facts. It's one thing to keep some facts to yourself, but quite another to pull them out of thin air.
On a related note, I'm curious as to whether you meet the minimum income requirement for your household size needed for sponsoring his visa?
~ Jenney
Why did you lie to us, making up that whole story about how your fiance has a job and has 10,000 GBP in the bank, when neither is true? I really can't understand why you would even mention that if it wasn't true and wasn't relevant to your situation.
And what else have you lied about? It's very difficult to help you if you're not being honest with the facts. It's one thing to keep some facts to yourself, but quite another to pull them out of thin air.
On a related note, I'm curious as to whether you meet the minimum income requirement for your household size needed for sponsoring his visa?
~ Jenney
Jan 14th 2009, 3:18 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
This is the part I read as being "made up" (not what you quoted).
"okay, lets say my fiance is coming over in may and we are going to spontaneously get married, And its going to be a simple courthouse wedding, he will have a return ticket as well as a open account with over 10,000pounds in England, AND a letter from his boss stating he intended to return back to England. If this happens."
I believe the OP was asking what would happen IF he (her boyfriend) "happened" to have a return ticket, 10,000 pounds in the bank, and a letter from a hypothetical boss......IF they did have those things, or could make it LOOK like they had those things, would they get away with the real plan, which was to enter on VWP, marry, and stay to adjust status.
I don't think she was lying to the group members; instead asking if they could get away with a VWP marriage/adjustment if they just "happened" to have all the things she listed. Meauxna and I appear to have interpreted it the same way. I think.
~SG
"okay, lets say my fiance is coming over in may and we are going to spontaneously get married, And its going to be a simple courthouse wedding, he will have a return ticket as well as a open account with over 10,000pounds in England, AND a letter from his boss stating he intended to return back to England. If this happens."
I believe the OP was asking what would happen IF he (her boyfriend) "happened" to have a return ticket, 10,000 pounds in the bank, and a letter from a hypothetical boss......IF they did have those things, or could make it LOOK like they had those things, would they get away with the real plan, which was to enter on VWP, marry, and stay to adjust status.
I don't think she was lying to the group members; instead asking if they could get away with a VWP marriage/adjustment if they just "happened" to have all the things she listed. Meauxna and I appear to have interpreted it the same way. I think.
~SG
Jan 14th 2009, 3:23 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
I have deliberately stayed out of this thread until now, because I just couldn't find the right words! I think you've hit the right words, so I'm now free to post.
Really? I am just so totally disillusioned by the OP that I want to slit my wrists. I'm not sure I'll ever recover. I feel so... used!
Ian
Really? I am just so totally disillusioned by the OP that I want to slit my wrists. I'm not sure I'll ever recover. I feel so... used!
Ian
Jan 14th 2009, 3:25 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
Okay, well since I had said im not taking the AOS route my family and fiance have been talking about him coming to marry leaving then filling a i -130. We have decided hes going to come back in a month, we are going to get married, he is leaving, we are filling a I-130 and then he is going to come as a visitor on our wedding day get married through the church and all that. stay till his vwp expires then returns home and waits out the processing time.
As far as I know everything there seems legal to me. Can u guys help me out.
As far as I know everything there seems legal to me. Can u guys help me out.
Jan 14th 2009, 3:28 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
Okay, well since I had said im not taking the AOS route my family and fiance have been talking about him coming to marry leaving then filling a i -130. We have decided hes going to come back in a month, we are going to get married, he is leaving, we are filling a I-130 and then he is going to come as a visitor on our wedding day get married through the church and all that. stay till his vwp expires then returns home and waits out the processing time.
As far as I know everything there seems legal to me. Can u guys help me out.
As far as I know everything there seems legal to me. Can u guys help me out.
Jan 14th 2009, 3:30 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
yes intent to marry then leave, but we are doing this just to speed it up, rather than wait till our wedding date and gett married we'll get married now. Then he leaves, comes back to visit on our wedding month then we get married thorugh the church have the big party. and then he stays until his vwp expires and leaves.
Jan 14th 2009, 3:31 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
Okay, well since I had said im not taking the AOS route my family and fiance have been talking about him coming to marry leaving then filling a i -130. We have decided hes going to come back in a month, we are going to get married, he is leaving, we are filling a I-130 and then he is going to come as a visitor on our wedding day get married through the church and all that. stay till his vwp expires then returns home and waits out the processing time.
As far as I know everything there seems legal to me. Can u guys help me out.
As far as I know everything there seems legal to me. Can u guys help me out.
1. He comes to visit on the VWP.
2. You get married while he's here in the USA.
3. When you have the certified copy of the marriage certificate in hand, file the I-130. You can do this while he's still here on the VWP.
4. He returns home before the 90 days allowed on the VWP.
5. He waits for visa processing back in the UK and eventually goes for an Immigrant Visa interview.
6. He moves to the USA permanantly once he has the Immigrant Visa in hand.
Total processing time from filing I-130 to getting IV in hand is about 8 to 10 months. You are both allowed to visit each other while the process is ongoing. If he comes to the USA on the VWP again to visit, he should bring proof of his ties to the UK, just in case they ask at the POE (for example, letter of employment showing when he needs to be back at work...letter from school showing when he needs to be back in class...rent/mortgage statements showing he has a residence in the UK to return to...etc).
Rene
Jan 14th 2009, 3:32 pm
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Re: Considering Marriage on VWP
It would be illegal if he were intending to stay in the USA and adjust status after marriage.
Coming to the USA on the VWP just to marry is legal. He then leaves and does the Immigrant Visa processing back in the UK.
Rene