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Old Feb 5th 2012 | 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Illogical, innit? Or "don't doubt".
Yes, Typing on a smartphone on a busy train
 
Old Feb 5th 2012 | 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by Tangram
The one you live in I suppose because that's where you are.
I understand that but, who is to say the age of consent being 13, 16, or 31 is correct?
 
Old Feb 5th 2012 | 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I understand that but, who is to say the age of consent being 13, 16, or 31 is correct?
Whoever lives there....this is getting like "Who's on First".
 
Old Feb 6th 2012 | 1:37 am
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Originally Posted by gad33
I suppose I was thinking that barbaric was meant in the sense of savagely cruel whereas you are saying that it was meant in the sense of uncivilized. I really don't know if the pleasure for the hunter is just in the kill or killing something you can eat.
For me in the 21st century with high tech video games, cameras etc if you need to go our and kill an actual animal to get your thrill its pretty barbaric, and I don’t think eating it afterwards gets you off the hook.. if it was really all about the stalking and tracking etc they’d use a camera, in almost all cases it’s about the kill!

I think that the above is significantly different from somebody who has such a small budget that wildlife is a necessary source of protein in their diet, I do accept that they exist in small numbers in North America
 
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Originally Posted by MikeUK
For me in the 21st century with high tech video games, cameras etc if you need to go our and kill an actual animal to get your thrill its pretty barbaric, and I don’t think eating it afterwards gets you off the hook.. if it was really all about the stalking and tracking etc they’d use a camera, in almost all cases it’s about the kill!
Which is the greater ill: raising an animal for it to be killed as it is in most of the developed world (no chance of it living anywhere but in captivity), killing it anyway and then eating it or killing an animal that has lived its entire life in its natural habitat and then killing it?

You seem to suggest that both are barbaric. Are you a vegetarian?
 
Old Feb 6th 2012 | 2:10 am
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Maybe we should all just plug into the matrix and forget about ever having any "real world" experiences


I must say, what this thread is sorely missing is people that actually hunt, maybe they could offer some perspective on the reason people do it. Lets not forget that it is a popular passtime here in canada, although perhaps not among expats.

No one has raised the "conservation" argument yet either. We enjoy seeing the wild turkeys in our yard, and I know for a fact that the only reason they are there is because the hunters actively went out of their way to reintroduce them to Eastern Ontario. Giraffes? Probably not so much...
 
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Which is the greater ill: raising an animal for it to be killed as it is in most of the developed world (no chance of it living anywhere but in captivity), killing it anyway and then eating it or killing an animal that has lived its entire life in its natural habitat and then killing it?

You seem to suggest that both are barbaric. Are you a vegetarian?
Nope, I'm suggesting that the mindset that desires a real 'kill' is barbaric in todays age

I think that a very good hunter on an unsuspecting game animal may be a very humane death, possibly more humane than the best slaugter house..
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
Maybe we should all just plug into the matrix and forget about ever having any "real world" experiences
I can give you a long list of real world big thrill, fill your pants, adrenaline rush activities all which will exceed the rush of a kill, and nothing needs to die.....

Granted none will give you that thrill by sitting on your arse looking down a scope whilst drinking a beer
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
I must say, what this thread is sorely missing is people that actually hunt, maybe they could offer some perspective on the reason people do it. Lets not forget that it is a popular passtime here in canada, although perhaps not among expats.
That cradles do something isn't a defence of the practise. There have been a good number of hunting threads before and no one has advanced a reason beyond liking to kill things. Fair enough, we have better technology than the animals so we can kill them. I can't say that the idea of doing so makes me throb but I suppose it's better than killing people.
 
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Originally Posted by MikeUK
I can give you a long list of real world big thrill, fill your pants, adrenaline rush activities all which will exceed the rush of a kill, and nothing needs to die.....

Granted none will give you that thrill by sitting on your arse looking down a scope whilst drinking a beer
I don't hunt. I can't imagine that one would shoot well looking down a scope and drinking a beer.

Have you ever been on a hunt? Please answer the question I asked earlier: Are you a vegetarian?
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
That cradles do something isn't a defence of the practise. There have been a good number of hunting threads before and no one has advanced a reason beyond liking to kill things. Fair enough, we have better technology than the animals so we can kill them. I can't say that the idea of doing so makes me throb but I suppose it's better than killing people.
My neighbour goes hunting. The stuff he kills gets eaten, sometimes by me.

He uses a .303. His view is that it is more humane because you are going to kill rather than perhaps just wound.

Incidentally, my niece qualified as a gunsmith last year (in QC). She had to get three different gun licences.
 
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Originally Posted by Souvy
My neighbour goes hunting. The stuff he kills gets eaten, sometimes by me.
So? He hunts because he likes killing animals. So long as he's done so you may as well eat the results but the fact that meat results from the hunting is incidentally to the process; if getting meat was the objective it'd be cheaper to go and buy it at the butcher's.
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
So? He hunts because he likes killing animals. So long as he's done so you may as well eat the results but the fact that meat results from the hunting is incidentally to the process; if getting meat was the objective it'd be cheaper to go and buy it at the butcher's.
Is gas and ammunition really that expensive?
 
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Is gas and ammunition really that expensive?
You need outfits, you can't go blasting bambi in just any old clothes!
 
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So why are Polar Bears hunted? I cant say Ive seen their meat offered for sale though seen a few gracing a basement or fireside rug.
Hunting Polar Bears aint cheap either.
 


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