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cheeky_monkey Apr 4th 2011 10:12 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by GavinR (Post 9285287)
The new Focus just coming out is the European one, well most of it anyway.

thats right the radio and the rear wiper..they are the parts that wernt great on the European version so will fit in nicely with the NEW American one.

Auld Yin Apr 4th 2011 10:54 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9285104)
Oh come on, they make shoddy cars and trucks that have crap brakes, steering, suspension and are just overall cheap and nasty. :thumbdown:

Is this true or just your opinion. If true then please provide the empirical evidence to so support. If it's your opinion then we can assume it has absolutely no validity whatsoever and chuck it into the garbage bin, where your other such posts (movies, music, television) about the USA belong.

GavinR Apr 4th 2011 11:05 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 9285544)
Is this true or just your opinion. If true then please provide the empirical evidence to so support. If it's your opinion then we can assume it has absolutely no validity whatsoever and chuck it into the garbage bin, where your other such posts (movies, music, television) about the USA belong.

It has its basis in truth. At one point N American cars were really bad and some still aren't that great. It's a question of knowing which are the good ones (mainly European based) and which aren't. They also have been good in the past of dumding down cars, eg the old Escort, which was a fair car in the UK but a complete POS over here, it's all done in the name of cost cutting and providing a car which the manufacturers 'think' that the public want. Obviously they haven't got it right until recently as can be seen by the massive swing towards the Jap stuff in the last 10-15 years. All depends what you want really? Tell me what sort of vehicle you're after and you'll get some suggestions.

Piff Poff Apr 4th 2011 12:53 pm

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 9285257)
The Amercian focus is not the same as the European one..in fact its a bag of spanners when you compare the two..even Ford dealerships admit this.

European ones should be hitting the dealers this spring.

nldfc Apr 4th 2011 12:56 pm

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9285289)
My girlfriend's got something like that. It makes a great city car. :thumbdown:



I really really hope you are talking about the car and not the small penis :lol:

Oink Apr 4th 2011 12:58 pm

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 9285755)
I really really hope you are talking about the car and not the small penis :lol:

Its called a Chevy Tahoe and its awful to drive and to park.

MillieF Apr 5th 2011 9:15 pm

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 9285257)
The Amercian focus is not the same as the European one..in fact its a bag of spanners when you compare the two..even Ford dealerships admit this.

The same is regretably true of the Fiat 500, the Mexican assembled job in Canada, is not a patch on the European. Has Canada got the Abarth yet does anyone know?

lmartin999 Apr 6th 2011 1:07 am

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Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 9288581)
The same is regretably true of the Fiat 500, the Mexican assembled job in Canada, is not a patch on the European. Has Canada got the Abarth yet does anyone know?

In what sense? Unlike the Focus which was almost an entirely different car the North American 500 is actually improved in a number of ways. Have you driven one?

Abarth is supposed to come end of next year.

MillieF Apr 6th 2011 8:58 pm

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Yes, I love the Fiat 500, I had one of the first off the production line in Europe, so I've been driving one for some years, as it came out much earlier here than in the UK. A fun car, the finish is fantastic, just so much attention to detail - we had to dismantle a door the other day (as you do!) and the rust coating inside the doors was just so well done - I also have a Renault Scenic, which is badly made, badly finished, and bloody expensive for parts. I have the 100cc Fiat, with a gutsy little engine and the 'sports' option - it's great. The Mexican assembled job has a much heavier body and is just not as whizzy as ours. I haven't driven one in Canada yet, but my husband has and wasn't impressed. Hopefully by the time we arrive 'en famille' we might be able to get the Abarth.

lmartin999 Apr 8th 2011 4:11 am

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Well, it looks like we bought the Jag :thumbup: So, I will slink quietly away from the thread about gas prices. Of course it is entirely pointless and will be utterly useless for driving in Toronto. However, on the plus side it was cheaper than a new Elantra (or indeed Fiat 500). Pics show it with winter tires/rims (I can't imagine RWD, 400BHP in the snow....)

Steve_P Apr 8th 2011 4:14 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9293713)
(I can't imagine RWD, 400BHP in the snow....)

There was a time when all vehicles were rear wheel drive.:rolleyes:

We managed just fine.

As you will too...it's just a matter of adjusting. ;)

Oink Apr 8th 2011 4:32 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9293713)
Well, it looks like we bought the Jag :thumbup: So, I will slink quietly away from the thread about gas prices. Of course it is entirely pointless and will be utterly useless for driving in Toronto. However, on the plus side it was cheaper than a new Elantra (or indeed Fiat 500). Pics show it with winter tires/rims (I can't imagine RWD, 400BHP in the snow....)

The life of an impoverished goliard? Or as my nan would say, "how the poor live." :)

Atlantic Xpat Apr 8th 2011 4:47 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9293713)
Well, it looks like we bought the Jag :thumbup: So, I will slink quietly away from the thread about gas prices. Of course it is entirely pointless and will be utterly useless for driving in Toronto. However, on the plus side it was cheaper than a new Elantra (or indeed Fiat 500). Pics show it with winter tires/rims (I can't imagine RWD, 400BHP in the snow....)

Congratulations. I'm sure you'll be very comfortable on the leather seats, admiring the wood trim and watching the traffic go by whilst you wait for the tow truck to come and recover you. Jag build quality and all that.;)

Jingsamichty Apr 8th 2011 5:43 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9293740)
The life of an impoverished goliard? Or as my nan would say, "how the poor live." :)

New word - thanks for sending me to the (google) dictionary.

I like it and shall endeavour to use it at some opportune moment.

Novocastrian Apr 8th 2011 7:21 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9293713)
However, on the plus side it was cheaper than a new Elantra (or indeed Fiat 500).

But not after you've filled up the tank.

<nice car by the way. I suppose you'll be too stuck up for a pint in the future?>

Novocastrian Apr 8th 2011 7:23 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9293740)
The life of an impoverished goliard?

That nice Mr. Martin is not given to bucolic sarcasm.

<can I drive it please?>

Oink Apr 8th 2011 7:53 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9294072)
That nice Mr. Martin is not given to bucolic sarcasm.

<can I drive it please?>

I was using the term to mean a wandering scholar rather then suggesting any poetic drunkenness. But I suppose we'll have to call him guvner from now on.

Novocastrian Apr 8th 2011 8:01 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9294118)
I was using the term to mean a wandering scholar rather then suggesting any poetic drunkenness. But I suppose we'll have to call him guvner from now on.

OK then, (although he won't be doing much wandering in that gas guzzler).

lmartin999 Apr 8th 2011 9:59 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9294072)
That nice Mr. Martin is not given to bucolic sarcasm.

<can I drive it please?>

Yes, but it will be like being 17 again, you have to chip in for the petrol :) Sorry for the late reply, been working hard at a conference in New Orleans. Tough life...

lmartin999 Apr 8th 2011 10:00 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 9293760)
Congratulations. I'm sure you'll be very comfortable on the leather seats, admiring the wood trim and watching the traffic go by whilst you wait for the tow truck to come and recover you. Jag build quality and all that.;)

I already have a friendly mechanic who assures me that this model is nothing like the V12 I used to own......I hope not or I will be a single man again. Hmmm, single man with a Jag though. Could be worse...

Oink Apr 9th 2011 3:53 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9294266)
Yes, but it will be like being 17 again, you have to chip in for the petrol :) Sorry for the late reply, been working hard at a conference in New Orleans. Tough life...

You still go to those things? Anyway next year it's here, so you can drive your car out and we'll have a beer or two.

GavinR Apr 9th 2011 5:12 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9293713)
Well, it looks like we bought the Jag :thumbup: So, I will slink quietly away from the thread about gas prices. Of course it is entirely pointless and will be utterly useless for driving in Toronto. However, on the plus side it was cheaper than a new Elantra (or indeed Fiat 500). Pics show it with winter tires/rims (I can't imagine RWD, 400BHP in the snow....)

Very nice. Enjoy!

lmartin999 Apr 9th 2011 12:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9295156)
You still go to those things? Anyway next year it's here, so you can drive your car out and we'll have a beer or two.

Depends what you mean by 'go to'. Decided to spend most of today undertaking an ethnographic study of Bourbon Street. Got to love the three for one beer promotions (though of course I prefer the position of the LCBO with regard to such things, its shocking what some girls will do after drinking too much). I did think about Vancouver next year, of course I have to write a paper. Perhaps we could do a piss-taking expat authored paper and see if we could get it accepted? I suspect sadly it might be possible.

Oink Apr 10th 2011 3:40 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9295615)
Depends what you mean by 'go to'. Decided to spend most of today undertaking an ethnographic study of Bourbon Street. Got to love the three for one beer promotions (though of course I prefer the position of the LCBO with regard to such things, its shocking what some girls will do after drinking too much). I did think about Vancouver next year, of course I have to write a paper. Perhaps we could do a piss-taking expat authored paper and see if we could get it accepted? I suspect sadly it might be possible.

Yes, many a submission has been written down the pub when the crib board was being used. Some bollocks like; I'm An Expat . . . Get me out of Here! The seduction of utopia in a virtual landscape. ;)

lmartin999 Apr 12th 2011 4:15 am

Re: What Car???
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9296406)
Yes, many a submission has been written down the pub when the crib board was being used. Some bollocks like; I'm An Expat . . . Get me out of Here! The seduction of utopia in a virtual landscape. ;)

You realise that is actually rather too good? Is there any literature in the field or should we just make some up? Once the grad student is back with my dry cleaning and lunch I can get them searching :thumbup:

Oink Apr 12th 2011 5:34 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9300839)
You realise that is actually rather too good? Is there any literature in the field or should we just make some up? Once the grad student is back with my dry cleaning and lunch I can get them searching :thumbup:

We'd have to consider our audience, so obviously there're certain themes that seem to reappear quite frequently on here. I'd suggest using Disneyland's Magic Kingdom and the Make-A-Wish Foundation as metaphors for Canada and the CIC, because it's, all for the children, giving them an opportunity, an exciting adventure and fulfilling dreams. I'm sure we could fit in something about the frustration of long waiting times and then there's custody issues. Sprinkle in some Derridean quotes, make all concepts post or trans everything and we've got a winner. :thumbup:

Jingsamichty Apr 12th 2011 5:51 am

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Don't forget a nice cover. A nice cover, clear plastic laminate for example, will always get you an extra few marks.

Double spacing too. Big font. They'll never count the words.

Bibliography... just make stuff up, they'll never check. They'll secretly be too embarrassed to question if they don't recognise the books. Guaranteed.

But, I expect you two know all these clever tricks, being professionals and all that.

Oink Apr 12th 2011 5:57 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9300991)
Don't forget a nice cover. A nice cover, clear plastic laminate for example, will always get you an extra few marks.

Double spacing too. Big font. They'll never count the words.

Bibliography... just make stuff up, they'll never check. They'll secretly be too embarrassed to question if they don't recognise the books. Guaranteed.

But, I expect you two know all these clever tricks, being professionals and all that.

Clear plastic covers are so noughties. It's all about paperless papers and the free thumb drives these days.

Novocastrian Apr 12th 2011 6:02 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9300972)
We'd have to consider our audience, so obviously there're certain themes that seem to reappear quite frequently on here. I'd suggest using Disneyland's Magic Kingdom and the Make-A-Wish Foundation as metaphors for Canada and the CIC, because it's, all for the children, giving them an opportunity, an exciting adventure and fulfilling dreams. I'm sure we could fit in something about the frustration of long waiting times and then there's custody issues. Sprinkle in some Derridean quotes, make all concepts post or trans everything and we've got a winner. :thumbup:

I've posted this link before, but it was before your time I think.

The article here http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/s...inglefile.html would be an excellent starting point; it just needs a few tweaks to bring in the living your dream etc bits.

PS I'd be happy with just an acknowledgement on your paper.

lmartin999 Apr 12th 2011 7:47 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9301009)
I've posted this link before, but it was before your time I think.

The article here http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/s...inglefile.html would be an excellent starting point; it just needs a few tweaks to bring in the living your dream etc bits.

PS I'd be happy with just an acknowledgement on your paper.

Brilliant. I hadn't seen that before. If we get you on board we can claim to be at the cutting edge of interdisciplinarity. The conference does have the opportunity for 'performance' sessions, so I'm thinking that's where we need to be aiming. :thumbup:

Atlantic Xpat Apr 12th 2011 7:47 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9301009)
I've posted this link before, but it was before your time I think.

The article here http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/s...inglefile.html would be an excellent starting point; it just needs a few tweaks to bring in the living your dream etc bits.

PS I'd be happy with just an acknowledgement on your paper.

Is that the Mills and Boon version of physics then?

Oink Apr 12th 2011 7:56 am

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" . . . poststructuralist critiques have demystified the substantive content of mainstream Western scientific practice, revealing the ideology of domination concealed behind the façade of `objectivity'."

Excellent, you hum it I'll demystify it.

Novocastrian Apr 12th 2011 8:19 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9301200)
Brilliant. I hadn't seen that before. If we get you on board we can claim to be at the cutting edge of interdisciplinarity. The conference does have the opportunity for 'performance' sessions, so I'm thinking that's where we need to be aiming. :thumbup:

It would help if Oink happened to be transgendered. Do you have any insight there?

Novocastrian Apr 12th 2011 8:21 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 9301202)
Is that the Mills and Boon version of physics then?

No. It's the postmodern Derridean version. And it actually got published.

Oink Apr 12th 2011 7:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9301297)
No. It's the postmodern Derridean version. And it actually got published.

When a hoax of a hoax becomes the real, you know the jolly show must go on.

jrhodes Apr 13th 2011 12:32 am

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I like the Pontiac G6. Pontiac have gone bust but parts should not be an issue, longevity may be however! - Ford Focus (The "new" shape that we have nad in the UK for years should be a good call as are the VW Golf's - I have a new one of the estates myself and would get another)

dbd33 Apr 13th 2011 1:25 am

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Originally Posted by jrhodes (Post 9302538)
I like the Pontiac G6. Pontiac have gone bust but parts should not be an issue, longevity may be however! - Ford Focus (The "new" shape that we have nad in the UK for years should be a good call as are the VW Golf's - I have a new one of the estates myself and would get another)

I find that my VW is poorly designed and expensive to run. The build quality is unremarkable. I was happier with Ford products.

Souvy Apr 13th 2011 1:47 am

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Originally Posted by jrhodes (Post 9302538)
I like the Pontiac G6. Pontiac have gone bust but parts should not be an issue, longevity may be however! - Ford Focus (The "new" shape that we have nad in the UK for years should be a good call as are the VW Golf's - I have a new one of the estates myself and would get another)

Pontiac didn't go bust. It was just a General Motors brand that was discontinued, along with Oldsmobile, Hummer and Saturn.

Tangram Apr 13th 2011 1:56 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9302649)
I find that my VW is poorly designed and expensive to run. The build quality is unremarkable. I was happier with Ford products.

I have to agree with the experience of wife's Rabbit (Golf).

Jingsamichty Apr 13th 2011 2:40 am

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Anyway, there's no real choice to be made for the oil wives in Aspen... Cadillac Escalade if you're American, Volvo XC90 if you're European.

Sorted.


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