Visiting the USA from Canada Options
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We have a nice selection of both green and white I94 waivers in our drawer I must return them to USCBP one day.
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Nope - over here they are staffed by human beings - it was one of the busier crossings where they like to remind you that they have a badge and they are the boss.
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Who knows
I mean god forbid we actually act like human beings and strike up a conversation with travellers. I know it sucks for them waiting behind you but he should not have detained you for the 7 minutes as that is well above our service standard time. Showing an interest to others ARGH what was he thinking
I mean god forbid we actually act like human beings and strike up a conversation with travellers. I know it sucks for them waiting behind you but he should not have detained you for the 7 minutes as that is well above our service standard time. Showing an interest to others ARGH what was he thinking
We did wonder what would happen if the computer didn't come back online as it would have been a long drive back to civilization in BC. He said that immigration officials are allowed to use discretion in those circumstances. Luckily we didn't have to find out if we passed that test as the computer came back online.
He was a nice guy and we see him pretty regularly when we cross over now.
J
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Based on your experience...Once the I94/W exit form is surrendered to the Canadian side on the way back, Will there be any evidence provided to us in the form of a stamping or receipt to say we have handed them over?
So when we return to the US border for entry next time, there is a possiblity for the US officer saying no record of exit found in their system and could potentially deny entry or deport to UK?
I know the above might sound extreme but the US law doesnt look flexible.
So when we return to the US border for entry next time, there is a possiblity for the US officer saying no record of exit found in their system and could potentially deny entry or deport to UK?
I know the above might sound extreme but the US law doesnt look flexible.
J
Last edited by Jingle; Jan 8th 2013 at 5:47 am.
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Anyone flown to the US from Canada on ESTA then driven back ? Is it a problem ?
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Fly in on ESTA, then drive out = not OK
Drive in on I-94W, then fly out = OK
And I feel like I've read something official to this effect but right now I cannot for the life of me seem to find anything to back it up.
Anyone? Am I wrong about this?
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Eligible nationals or citizens of countries that participate in the Visa Waiver Program require either a travel authorization or a visa to transit the United States. If a traveler is only planning to transit through the United States en route to another country, when he or she completes the travel authorization application in ESTA, the traveler should enter the words "In Transit" and his or her final destination location in the address lines in the Address While In The United States field on the application.
https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/WebHel...Help_1.htm#WP3
https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/WebHel...Help_1.htm#WP3
#40
I was under the impression that this was a problem, i.e.
Fly in on ESTA, then drive out = not OK
Drive in on I-94W, then fly out = OK
And I feel like I've read something official to this effect but right now I cannot for the life of me seem to find anything to back it up.
Anyone? Am I wrong about this?
Fly in on ESTA, then drive out = not OK
Drive in on I-94W, then fly out = OK
And I feel like I've read something official to this effect but right now I cannot for the life of me seem to find anything to back it up.
Anyone? Am I wrong about this?
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You are eligible to apply for admission under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) if you:
•Intend to enter the United States for 90 days or less for business, pleasure or transit
•Have a valid passport lawfully issued to you by a Visa Waiver Program country
•Have authorization to travel via the Electronic System for Travel Authorization
•Arrive via a Visa Waiver Program signatory carrier
•Have a return or onward ticket
•Travel may not terminate in contiguous territory or adjacent islands unless the traveler is a resident of one of those areas
•Are a citizen or national of one of the Visa Waiver Program countries listed below:
Travel not terminating in contigous territory.
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Probably because of this
You are eligible to apply for admission under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) if you:
•Intend to enter the United States for 90 days or less for business, pleasure or transit
•Have a valid passport lawfully issued to you by a Visa Waiver Program country
•Have authorization to travel via the Electronic System for Travel Authorization
•Arrive via a Visa Waiver Program signatory carrier
•Have a return or onward ticket
•Travel may not terminate in contiguous territory or adjacent islands unless the traveler is a resident of one of those areas
•Are a citizen or national of one of the Visa Waiver Program countries listed below:
Travel not terminating in contigous territory.
You are eligible to apply for admission under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) if you:
•Intend to enter the United States for 90 days or less for business, pleasure or transit
•Have a valid passport lawfully issued to you by a Visa Waiver Program country
•Have authorization to travel via the Electronic System for Travel Authorization
•Arrive via a Visa Waiver Program signatory carrier
•Have a return or onward ticket
•Travel may not terminate in contiguous territory or adjacent islands unless the traveler is a resident of one of those areas
•Are a citizen or national of one of the Visa Waiver Program countries listed below:
Travel not terminating in contigous territory.
More likely they might take issue with the lack of an onward or return ticket - although for a Canadian resident I can't see why you wouldn't be able to fly in on ESTA and drive back. Might need to explain that to the immigration official at your point of entry/pre-clearance, though.
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I'd get an I94 in advance (by going to America for the day) then an ESTA, then you'll have more than you need. Too many permits is less likely to cause a ruckus than too few.
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seems your point does not apply to residents of Canada, unless I've misunderstood.
More likely they might take issue with the lack of an onward or return ticket - although for a Canadian resident I can't see why you wouldn't be able to fly in on ESTA and drive back. Might need to explain that to the immigration official at your point of entry/pre-clearance, though.
More likely they might take issue with the lack of an onward or return ticket - although for a Canadian resident I can't see why you wouldn't be able to fly in on ESTA and drive back. Might need to explain that to the immigration official at your point of entry/pre-clearance, though.
The problem is the poster being a resident of the UK does not legally qualify to fly into the US on an ESTA then drive into Canada. He could fly in on an ESTA in transit and then fly to Canada but not drive.
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No you havent misunderstood if you are a resident of Canada or one of those contiguous territory then you are ok.
The problem is the poster being a resident of the UK does not legally qualify to fly into the US on an ESTA then drive into Canada. He could fly in on an ESTA in transit and then fly to Canada but not drive.
The problem is the poster being a resident of the UK does not legally qualify to fly into the US on an ESTA then drive into Canada. He could fly in on an ESTA in transit and then fly to Canada but not drive.




