US step up war on ISIL
#301
There is no chance of that if they retain their current extremist ideology and continue to grow in size. As such an extreme threat, they would be evaporated by the USA, as there would be no other option.
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Islam has no pope, patriarch of Constantinople or Queen. Not even an accepted way of translating its holy book, let alone a way to interpret it. Its institutions are exceptionally weak. If a claim is made in the name of Islam, no matter how outrageous, nobody is really able to refute it on a religious basis.
twas ever thus.
twas ever thus.
The Abrahamic faiths all encourage questioning - of oneself, of the message from God, and every aspect of the religion (Christianity's God be in my head, and in my understanding, as opposed to the Koran's - What you are seen to be doing, not what is in your heart)...The Koran is the 'word' of God, pure and simple.
Christianity also has the comfort of being something of an 'old time' religion and has been able to weather the storms and rewrite it's history too, quite frequently...it hasn't always been benign....the Spanish inquisition, had there been Internet, might have been looked upon with just as much fear and terror the IS is now engendering.
#304
The Koran is the work of the Prophet Mohammed, and is therefore not open as such to interpretation. Imams however, are the teachers of the Koran, and if you have, as the vast majority are, decent peaceful Imams, then the 'brand' of Islam delivered will be fine, all of the problems in the UK and other countries recently have been because of a rabble rousing bunch who have over the years caused more and more trouble and we have done little or nothing to put any form of control on them.
The Abrahamic faiths all encourage questioning - of oneself, of the message from God, and every aspect of the religion (Christianity's God be in my head, and in my understanding, as opposed to the Koran's - What you are seen to be doing, not what is in your heart)...The Koran is the 'word' of God, pure and simple.
Christianity also has the comfort of being something of an 'old time' religion and has been able to weather the storms and rewrite it's history too, quite frequently...it hasn't always been benign....the Spanish inquisition, had there been Internet, might have been looked upon with just as much fear and terror the IS is now engendering.
The Abrahamic faiths all encourage questioning - of oneself, of the message from God, and every aspect of the religion (Christianity's God be in my head, and in my understanding, as opposed to the Koran's - What you are seen to be doing, not what is in your heart)...The Koran is the 'word' of God, pure and simple.
Christianity also has the comfort of being something of an 'old time' religion and has been able to weather the storms and rewrite it's history too, quite frequently...it hasn't always been benign....the Spanish inquisition, had there been Internet, might have been looked upon with just as much fear and terror the IS is now engendering.
Islam seems to be going the other direction. With access to modern weapons and global networks, the threat Islamists represent is real and immense.
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I couldn't agree more. The problem is that Islam is taking it's time to grow 'slowly' as any religion does, but in the last 50 years the followers of Islam have had mass education and the Internet thrown at them as well as political upheaval in spades. I am amazed that militant Islam has not caused more trouble than it has, they have some really bright PR people who are quietly cooking up unrest. Byron said 'when a man has no freedom to fight for at home he'll fight for the freedom of others' which is exactly what a lot of these disenfranchised kids are doing when they turn to IS. They have parents with whom they don't feel they a lot in common, and are growing up in a society where they don't fit in either....and they don't know the meaning of the word 'struggle', and it sounds romantic, they are ripe for the picking...
The main stream, peaceful, ordinary Islamic community has to band together to actively fight the violence and brainwashing that's occurring, but I don't think it will do so.
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#308
Millie the Muslim community here in Regina got a decent mob together and had a protest against extremism which is a lot more than the locals did. Swedish reporter JoMar Sommarstrom just tweeted that Israeli jets have attacked 2 targets in Syria, one near Damascus Intl Airport, the other in Dimas near the Lebanese border
The good write-up is actually in RT of all places.
The good write-up is actually in RT of all places.
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#309
Millie the Muslim community here in Regina got a decent mob together and had a protest against extremism which is a lot more than the locals did. Swedish reporter JoMar Sommarstrom just tweeted that Israeli jets have attacked 2 targets in Syria, one near Damascus Intl Airport, the other in Dimas near the Lebanese border
The good write-up is actually in RT of all places.
The good write-up is actually in RT of all places.
#310
Actually I think Al Jazeera is far more objective than RT. RT is unashamedly Putin's party organ and the comments are downright ridiculous as a rule.
#311
RT I agree with your regarding Putin, but it also has some substance to it, don't mistake that for truth...
Unlike many usa news channels that it is difficult to watch anything as it is so light, goffers on vacation, celeb gossip or something that is truly unnewsworthy, no wonder the yanks struggle to communicate with folk about anything, just hope the Canadian news is a step up from US news else I'll be tuning into Russia today!
Unlike many usa news channels that it is difficult to watch anything as it is so light, goffers on vacation, celeb gossip or something that is truly unnewsworthy, no wonder the yanks struggle to communicate with folk about anything, just hope the Canadian news is a step up from US news else I'll be tuning into Russia today!
#312
The tv channel isn't as blatant as the website rt.com. The comments on the articles in the website are crazy.
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Russia Today impartial and refreshing... <jaw drops>
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If you lot want a truly alternative and refreshing viewpoint, I would recommend Dabiq, Isis's glossy magazine.
Particularly refreshing is their article on how slavery should be re-instated, and in what cases rape of one's slaves is permitted, as a good alternative to adultery, from a religious point of view.
Particularly refreshing is their article on how slavery should be re-instated, and in what cases rape of one's slaves is permitted, as a good alternative to adultery, from a religious point of view.





